Just THREE people want no UK rule in FI poll

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Because the consequences are alive and at work, even today.

Apparently you will not accept the inevitability of sh*t happening.

ruveyn

Because people mention the British empire. The hypocrisy is plain to see.

Yup.

If the Argentinians didn't keep bringing up their aggressively colonialist policy towards the Falkland Islands, hardly anyone would even know or care where they were and the Falkland Islanders, like the Turks and Caicos Islanders and the Tristanians, would simply be getting on, peacefully, with their lives.

How many people in the UK know where Saint Helena or Anguilla is? Or the French possessions of Mayotte or Saint Pierre and Miquelon?

I'd say St Helena is pretty well known around the world because of Napoleon.

Aaah you British people and your confrontations with countries because tiny islands and rocks! XD

Even when I lived near Gibraltar I didn't care. Well, I recognize that when your Royal Navy shooted the Spanish flag I had a WTF moment but that's all. The broken nuclear submarine was more annoying, but I wasn't there in 2000 and 2004.

If you happen to be a Spaniard, I respectfully think you should give your wee head a wobble on this subject. Your country has, within the last ten years, militarily retaken an uninhabited island that is company only to snakes.

Yes, Perejil island, but that was an isolated accident and we laughed because we knew it was absurd, because it was a rock. The British obsession with Falklands and Gibraltar lasts centuries and it's quite annoying, you are always talking about that. You can't compare Perejil with Falklands or Gibraltar.

We never talk about Gibraltar in the UK unless Spain acts the idiot by inconveniencing Gibraltarians for no good reason or someone says that they're going there or have been, and the Falkland Islands is also rarely talked about unless the Argentinians go on about their ridiculous sovereignty claim or people mention how they've been there. The Argentinian government and much of the media seem to have this overarching obsession with 'the Malvinas', whereas in Britain they're much less talked about.

Gibraltar was signed over to the UK fair and square as the result of a war.
The Falkland Islands were settled in the 1830s and have been British since.

All the residents of the FIs or Gibraltar want is to live in peace and to have friendly relationships with their neighbours and for both Spain and Argentina to drop their spurious sovereignty claims.



No, I can't. The Falkland Islands and Gibraltar have people living there, almost all of whom wish to remain British.

It would be like Ceuta and Melilla being aggressively demanded back by Morocco.

My heart is with the Falklanders. What the British said about the right of self-determination is true; if the inhabitants of the Falkland Islands wish to keep being(part of the UK) EDIT: a British Overseas Territory, then that should be respected. I've been reading through some Argentinian newspaper to see their main counterarguments; one of them is that the Falklanders are British citizens, and as such, they don't have a say on the fate of Argentinian islands. Another argument is that the notion of territory integrity supersedes the right of self-determination.

Personally, I believe self-determination is more important; to me, a territory should belong more to the people who inhabit it than to the government that happens to have its sovereignty. I find it appalling that the Argentinian government blatantly disregards them, basically saying that their opinion just doesn't matter.

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This.

They don't want to be a part of the UK.

They want to remain a British Overseas Territory. There are 14 British Overseas Territories, and they are territories that are under the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom but do not, however, form part of the United Kingdom itself. Instead, they are those parts of the former British Empire that have not acquired independence or have voted to remain British territories.



The Argentinian ambassador completely ignored a representative of the Falkland Islands at a meeting in London. I think you can see what sort of moral plane they're on.

I stand corrected then.

I'd actually favour integrating the Overseas Territories with the UK. The problem is that, unlike the French DOM-TOMs, none of our Overseas Territories - with the exception of Bermuda - are populous enough on their own to even comprise a single House of Commons constituency.