Our friends, the Syrian 'rebels'

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I think it would have been hilarious if they had kidnapped him.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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Tame eh? hezbollah went to the war following Iranian orders and without taking Lebanon's stance into consideration, Fath el Islam killed many of the local army - for us they're not tame at all.





They do, like any islamist group.





They will remain like they have remained centuries before Al-Assad, Al-Assad doesn't equate Syria, Syria didn't start with Al Assad nor it would ends with his fall.


And you're talking as if those dictators provide real protection for the Christians, the Copts in Egypt for instance were being harassed by Islamists millions of times during Mubarak rule as much as today; he really didn't make any efforts to protect them.

The Christians/Druze/Alawites' safety would be more enforced by sticking with the Liberals/Leftists/atheists/Moderate Muslims so they can face Islamism together later on ; not by sticking with a regime who is oppressing and killing the latter (Liberals/Leftists/atheists/Moderate Muslims) making them more hated by all and targets for all Islamists in the world.

The Copts of Egypt took the right choice by sticking with the liberal/moderate muslims against Mubarak back then.

The Druze of Syria changed heart and leaned toward the rebellion, the Christians/Alawites there are divided between pro and rebels.


As for the women this is related to the "Sharia Law" thing that you westerners cry a lot about; read below.



The Islamists in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya will never be able to impose the Sharia Law in a million years unless they have the unanimity of all their people.

The Botherhood in Egypt will never be able to impose it (despite all their recent attempts) on the 48% of Egypt + Pro-Mubaraks (~10%) + the Egyptian Army.

The Islamists in Tunisia are in fact the minority, they won because they were more organized for years (thanks for their former dictator who only repressed secular parties).

The Islamists in Libya have already lost as they are not a majority nor they are that popular there.

And the same would happen in Syria, the Islamists cannot rule alone hence cannot impose any Sharia Law.

Hezbollah was initially created by Iran to impose Sharia Law (with Revolutionary Iranian principles) on Lebanon but they've totally failed to do so, they are even failing to impose Sharia principles on their own areas and community, I've heard the other day a known Hezbollah figure (a cleric) who was complaining about Shi'ite girls wearing "mini skirts" in Southern Suburbs and south of Lebanon. Yes it is true that the rate of veiling skyrocketed among the Shi'ite community since their creation but their ultimate goal was never achieved (and I doubt would ever).




You've done it before with the Taliban and Al Qaeda, the two worst Islamist groups ever.

As I said, it's okay if you don't want to intervene, I totally understand, what I am trying to say that remaining to live under dictatorship isn't an option. And it's not up to you to decide that.

So what alternative are you wishing for the Arab Countries?

To remain under dictatorship rule for another 40 years? 40 years after 40 years? From father to son to grandson? forever? To remain under dictator legacies who always suppressed the liberals and enforced the Islamist terrorism (as I explained how in the above posts)? if it's that the case, then in the name of all anti-dictators Liberal Arabs in the world I tell you this: Fcuk yourself.



What's creating a blood sectarian strife in my country is the Iranian/Hezbollah intervention in Syria. If Lebanon ever got terrorist attacks, Hezbollah would be fully to be blamed for all this s**t this time.









True that. This is no secret. Qatar for instance is hated by the Liberals in Egypt because it's helping the Brotherhood; while he supports non-Islamist groups in other countries, Qatar's ruler isn't Islamist but he's doing for his own country's interests (he's racing with KSA in having influence)


http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... hood-.html

Here they're mocking on Qatar's support to MB:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI-hllOOpFM[/youtube]



There are evidences that chemical weapons was used by both sides, don't be one-eye blinded.

http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient/art ... _3218.html

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Mclavera I advise to watch this 7:00 and 12:00 hilarious

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z_U-ENi4tQ[/youtube]

Let's fund terrorism while fighting terrorism.

Makes sense. I love how the Syrian guy on the right of the McCain picture is smiling; it's like he's thinking "I can't believe we're getting money off this poor sap."

Jon Stewart interviewed him awhile back. He's not only funny, but he's an incredibly brave man.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

If I remember correctly, MEMRI had some of his stuff. The man has balls of steel - he's brilliant and he's a wit, too.

Oh, The_Face_of_Boo? The article I meant is here:

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaUAjGRz0ds[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syg5RFOa3D8[/youtube]

(He's not telling the truth, by the way, about the mosques in 'Muslim' areas in the West. Gays, Jews, and many other people are no longer welcome in Islamic areas.)

As for the title of that second video - please! Pretty please!

I suspect he's making generalizations about Islam in other countries outside the Middle East to make a point.
I think I genuinely like this guy.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I sincerely hope my country does not get involved in this clusterf*ck

Detailed post, Boo. It just strikes me as odd that Americans see Bashar as an angel compared to the Islamicists opposing him. And as far as I know, within Syria, I have yet to see them do anything deemed worse than the Bashar regime have done so far.

Speaking as an American, I haven't seen or heard any sort of Pro-Bashar sentiment in my country, as he's clearly recognized as a bloodthirsty dictator. We Just a bit of standoffish toward the rebel movement now, as what had started out as a populist movement has become riddled with Islamic fanatics.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Assad isn't an angel but it's hard to paint him as a monster when we were calling the guy a 'reformer' a few short years ago before this civil war, was he any worse than these Gulf dictators that are trying to remove him? How can we decry the actions of one dictator but wholeheartedly support another? Where was the outrage when our great ally Saudi Arabia marched into Bahrain to squash their rebellion? Our Major Non-NATO ally Pakistan was harboring Osama Bin Laden for over a decade and along with the Saudis were instrumental in bringing the Taliban to power. How would our friends the Syrian rebels pay us back? We already got a taste from the militias in Libya when they murdered our ambassador and 3 other Americans. The intervention in Libya has destabilized the region and has given al-Qaeda a base of operations in northern Africa. The stakes in Syria are much graver for our own national security, regional stability, and the people of Syria. The interests of our so called allies and even our own government aren't in the interest of the American people. A lot of people in this country are starting to come to the realization that these 'humanitarian' wars are anything but, there is always an ulterior motive. The idea that we must destroy these countries in order to save them is BS. We try to paint these conflicts as black and white, good vs evil but that is almost never the case.

All what you're saying is totally BS - the dictators were never the ones who prevented AL Qaeda and terrorism to spread, on the contrary they played together a lot. All this are stupid excuses so Arabs stay living under dictatorship.

You want to limit terrorism? Enforce KSA reforms and fight the Iranian regime, not by supporting keeping under dictator rule such as Al Assad and Qaddafi. Btw, I am not with royal rules in the gulf as well.

Staying under dictatoriship is not option for the other Arabs, Period. Start to accept that.

You can whine and cry for ages wishing for Arabs to remain under dictatorship, but times keep goes forward. You have to start accepting that, otherwise you'll go insane .

And it's not up to you to say what's better for the people of Syria, their majority chose to fight AL Assad.

I do not believe these are movements for democracy nor do I believe they are organic. They are being used as pawns by powers beyond their comprehension and they do not care how much blood has to be shed to achieve their objectives.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. That's a rule of thumb in wars.

Islamists and FSA both have the same enemy in Syria today (as the FSA has no other ally on the ground), so they would be a defacto allies now, but they would clash if Al-Assad falls.

The same reason why US and Taliban were allies.