Kraichgauer
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Location: Spokane area, Washington state.
02 Jun 2013, 5:20 pm
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Who says Jesusland would have much military might? Would they have the infrastructure and industry - and taxation - to build up and support significant armed forces? And on top of that, those parts of the USC that had once been part of the USA have the bulk of the American population. Jesusland would have empty space between population clumps.
And by the way, eastern Washington and eastern Oregon also have very significant farmland.
And by the way, eastern Washington and eastern Oregon also have very significant farmland.
You must think that everything east of the left coast is an empty wasteland. Have you ever been outside Wa?
Combined, we’ll have a bigger population and infrastructure. California is the only US of C state with a lot of military bases but you can rest assured they are staffed primarily with Jesuslanders who will take whatever’s not nailed down when they leave to return to their homeland.
Good luck getting all those blue state slackers and Canadians to form anything better than a weak, understaffed, and pathetically armed peacekeeping force.
Taxes? We don’t mind paying taxes for worthwhile causes.
You’ll squander all of your tax revenue on social services.
Max000 wrote:
California produces twice as much agriculture as Texas. Three of the top 6 agriculture producing states would go to the United States of Canada. Add to that Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba which are all larger and have more agriculture land then Texas. The United States of Canada would totally pwn Jesusland for agriculture.
Agriculture receipts: Total (Ranked by 2004 value)
1. California 31,835,183
2. Texas 16,498,398
3. Iowa 14,652,946
4. Nebraska 11,779,728
5. Minnesota 9,794,912
6. Illinois 9,708,304
Agriculture receipts: Total (Ranked by 2004 value)
1. California 31,835,183
2. Texas 16,498,398
3. Iowa 14,652,946
4. Nebraska 11,779,728
5. Minnesota 9,794,912
6. Illinois 9,708,304
California is the top producer but all of Jesusland combined will out produce it and whatever else without breaking a sweat.
Arran wrote:
The military might of the US is built on the platform of science and engineering. If these go into decline in the US - or becomes heavily dependent on (disloyal and unpatriotic?) foreigners and immigrants - then the might of the military declines along with it.
American policians don't seem to realise that their global free market economic policies discourage science and engineering in the US.
American policians don't seem to realise that their global free market economic policies discourage science and engineering in the US.
Jesusland Technology Centers:
Dulles Technology Corridor - Northern Virginia
Research Triangle - North Carolina
Florida High Tech Corridor - Central Florida
Cummings Research Park - Huntsville, Alabama
University of Kentucky Coldstream Research Campus
Optics Valley - Tucson, Arizona
Denver Tech Center - Denver, Colorado
Silicon Hills - Austin, Texas
Silicon Prairie - Metropolitan Dallas
Telecom Corridor (an area in the Silicon Prairie) - Richardson, Texas
In a nutshell the US of C gets PWN3D
.Social programs are a worthwhile cause.
Incidentally, what will Jesusland do when their cuts in education, and programs meant to feed and house the needy takes it's toll, and they end up with a malnourished, undereducated population to depend on?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
02 Jun 2013, 5:32 pm
^^^^^^Hey,don't forget there are Liberals in JL,I just happen to live in the middle of it , not all of us are conservative!! I can't take up arms against my home and relations in JL
Kraichgauer
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02 Jun 2013, 6:29 pm
Misslizard wrote:
^^^^^^Hey,don't forget there are Liberals in JL,I just happen to live in the middle of it , not all of us are conservative!! I can't take up arms against my home and relations in JL
I can't take up arms against my home and relations in JL I know there are liberals - sadly, they'd be treated like pariahs by Jesusland's right wing elite.
You could always immigrate, if you like.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
02 Jun 2013, 6:31 pm
02 Jun 2013, 6:44 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
^^^^^^Hey,don't forget there are Liberals in JL,I just happen to live in the middle of it , not all of us are conservative!! I can't take up arms against my home and relations in JL
I can't take up arms against my home and relations in JL I know there are liberals - sadly, they'd be treated like pariahs by Jesusland's right wing elite.
You could always immigrate, if you like.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
You mean they will be coming up the drive with pitchforks and torches??
I like my land,guess I'll have to make a last stand
I'll not be hove out of my nest.
02 Jun 2013, 7:21 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Social programs are a worthwhile cause.
Worthwhile when implemented out of actual need and not just shiftless desire.
You know that I know that you know that about half of the long term welfare recipients won't make an effort to find work even in the best of times when it is available to them. I think those receiving welfare that CAN work should be required to do something like pick up trash, paint public buildings, work at city/county animal shelters, etc, even if it's only for 4 or 5 hours a day. Those who actually can't out of actual disability won't have to and will still collect.
I know we've been through this before.
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Incidentally, what will Jesusland do when their cuts in education, and programs meant to feed and house the needy takes it's toll, and they end up with a malnourished, undereducated population to depend on?
Who's cutting education?????
We obviously need that to support our economy. It's a worthwhile expense but it needs to be education of some actual value (the three R's + science).
Kraichgauer wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
^^^^^^Hey,don't forget there are Liberals in JL,I just happen to live in the middle of it , not all of us are conservative!! I can't take up arms against my home and relations in JL
I can't take up arms against my home and relations in JL I know there are liberals - sadly, they'd be treated like pariahs by Jesusland's right wing elite.
You could always immigrate, if you like.
Of course there will be liberals in Jesusland. Keep in mind that most (not all) of Jesusland will be made up of red states but we’re also getting Pennsylvania, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, Ohio, Florida, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, and Iowa which are blue states. Some of them; Virginia, Pennsylvania, Florida, and probably Nevada most likely will see the light and maybe one or two others.
I would look more for the US of C to engage in political purging, especially when their pitiful country collapses of the inevitable economic failure and the obligatory witch hunt ensues.
By that time a Jesusland liberal would be just as well off immigrating to Somalia or North Korea.
02 Jun 2013, 7:36 pm
Well, I feel better about getting a check,I regularly pick the trash up off my road on walks,and whenever I float the Buffalo river or going swimming I pick up tons of trash the tourists leave behind.
So I do help clean up Federal land,whew,what a releif.I'm not a total mooch
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Kraichgauer
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02 Jun 2013, 8:58 pm
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Social programs are a worthwhile cause.
Worthwhile when implemented out of actual need and not just shiftless desire.
You know that I know that you know that about half of the long term welfare recipients won't make an effort to find work even in the best of times when it is available to them. I think those receiving welfare that CAN work should be required to do something like pick up trash, paint public buildings, work at city/county animal shelters, etc, even if it's only for 4 or 5 hours a day. Those who actually can't out of actual disability won't have to and will still collect.
I know we've been through this before.
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Incidentally, what will Jesusland do when their cuts in education, and programs meant to feed and house the needy takes it's toll, and they end up with a malnourished, undereducated population to depend on?
Who's cutting education?????
We obviously need that to support our economy. It's a worthwhile expense but it needs to be education of some actual value (the three R's + science).
Kraichgauer wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
^^^^^^Hey,don't forget there are Liberals in JL,I just happen to live in the middle of it , not all of us are conservative!! I can't take up arms against my home and relations in JL
I can't take up arms against my home and relations in JL I know there are liberals - sadly, they'd be treated like pariahs by Jesusland's right wing elite.
You could always immigrate, if you like.
Of course there will be liberals in Jesusland. Keep in mind that most (not all) of Jesusland will be made up of red states but we’re also getting Pennsylvania, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, Ohio, Florida, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, and Iowa which are blue states. Some of them; Virginia, Pennsylvania, Florida, and probably Nevada most likely will see the light and maybe one or two others.
I would look more for the US of C to engage in political purging, especially when their pitiful country collapses of the inevitable economic failure and the obligatory witch hunt ensues.
By that time a Jesusland liberal would be just as well off immigrating to Somalia or North Korea.
Red states like Idaho, Mississippi, Alabama, etc. have the lowest standard of education. That's because state governments, and even electorates there don't see spending on education to be top priority.
And who is shiftless, and who is needy is often in the eye of the beholder.
And public works for the unemployed? Are you sure you're not really a closet New Dealer?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
02 Jun 2013, 9:07 pm
Kraichgauer
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02 Jun 2013, 9:18 pm
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02 Jun 2013, 9:24 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Many of those states are tight on budgets because there just is not enough money to do it all, education most likely gets cut first,which is counterproductive.
My county has ran out of funds before and laid off the county road dept.,once there were no deputies on duty after midnight,no money to pay them.We still don't have any money to open our new jail,it's just sitting there.Criminals have to be taken to the county above us.
My county has ran out of funds before and laid off the county road dept.,once there were no deputies on duty after midnight,no money to pay them.We still don't have any money to open our new jail,it's just sitting there.Criminals have to be taken to the county above us.
To be sure, there are exceptions to hardheartedness, as with cash strapped counties as your own.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Funding comes from generating revenue, not softheartedness.
