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The Tea Party is:
A Fascist/Nationalistic Organization 24%  24%  [ 9 ]
The Present Incarnation of the Ku Klux Klan 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
A Bunch of Dangerous Crackpots 13%  13%  [ 5 ]
A Bunch of Misguided Idiots who Watch Fox News 34%  34%  [ 13 ]
Under the Control of Satan 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
A Bunch of Harmless Folks who Like to Drink Tea 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Under the Guidance of Jesus 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
Elitist and Intellectual 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
I prefer Coffee or Cocoa 11%  11%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 38

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26 Oct 2013, 9:15 pm

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The far right hellscape known as Canada has voter ID laws, racists!


Not a valid comparison. A huge range of IDs can be used in Canada, and even if you don't have one you can take an oath and have a friend with ID vouch for you. There is no question whatsoever that the various Republican efforts to restrict voting is designed to hurt Democratic voters. That's why they do it. To suggest otherwise is silly.



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26 Oct 2013, 9:54 pm

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The Tea Party is decentralized bottom up movement,


Really? Fox News and the Koch Brothers are at the bottom? Who is up on top?


Your trolling is getting worse with age


Invoking the T-Word is an unacceptable means of evading a question. I'm tellin'.

Looking at their Website:

http://www.teaparty.org/

They're obviously a quite well financed subsidiary of Fox News.

Just look at this nonsense: Sarah Palin shoots a bear and taunts some news guy:

http://www.teaparty.org/sarah-palin-tau ... ted-29955/



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26 Oct 2013, 10:05 pm

Pure racist nonsense: http://www.teaparty.org/not-eligible/



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26 Oct 2013, 10:15 pm

simon_says wrote:
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The far right hellscape known as Canada has voter ID laws, racists!


Not a valid comparison. A huge range of IDs can be used in Canada, and even if you don't have one you can take an oath and have a friend with ID vouch for you. There is no question whatsoever that the various Republican efforts to restrict voting is designed to hurt Democratic voters. That's why they do it. To suggest otherwise is silly.


Nonsense, it will disenfranchise no one just as it does no one in Canada since IDs are freely available. Getting an ID is no harder than registering to vote. There is no evidence that it suppresses any voters. This is a fake narrative used to scare people and raise money.



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26 Oct 2013, 10:18 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The Tea Party is decentralized bottom up movement,


Really? Fox News and the Koch Brothers are at the bottom? Who is up on top?


Your trolling is getting worse with age


Invoking the T-Word is an unacceptable means of evading a question. I'm tellin'.

Looking at their Website:

http://www.teaparty.org/

They're obviously a quite well financed subsidiary of Fox News.

Just look at this nonsense: Sarah Palin shoots a bear and taunts some news guy:

http://www.teaparty.org/sarah-palin-tau ... ted-29955/


There are hundreds maybe thousands of separate Tea Party groups.

and lol @ just some news guy



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26 Oct 2013, 10:20 pm

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26 Oct 2013, 10:42 pm

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The far right hellscape known as Canada has voter ID laws, racists!


Not a valid comparison. A huge range of IDs can be used in Canada, and even if you don't have one you can take an oath and have a friend with ID vouch for you. There is no question whatsoever that the various Republican efforts to restrict voting is designed to hurt Democratic voters. That's why they do it. To suggest otherwise is silly.


Nonsense, it will disenfranchise no one just as it does no one in Canada since IDs are freely available. Getting an ID is no harder than registering to vote. There is no evidence that it suppresses any voters. This is a fake narrative used to scare people and raise money.



The Republican efforts to reduce early voting days, require very specific photo ID, reduce polling hours, purge voter rolls and all the rest are clearly designed for one purpose. You even have a Republican precinct captain bragging about it in a video in this thread. It's pretty obvious.

Comparing those efforts to Canada requiring you to bring just about any form of ID, including student ID, non photo ID, a fishing license or some mail, or have a friend vouch for you.....is just nuts. Really, get a grip, you are quickly slipping further into kooky talk radio land. You just repeat talking points and think we should care? Good luck with that.



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27 Oct 2013, 1:01 am

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Pure racist nonsense: http://www.teaparty.org/not-eligible/

Actually, that one is pretty damning.

Do they also have a 911 Truther page?

Ironically, on the "About Us" page, they list this as one of their 15 core principles:

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12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.

Not average Hawaiians, apparently. :huh:

I'm not sure about the status of that website in the Tea Party Movement, though.



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27 Oct 2013, 1:07 am

Question: why is it inherently racist to require reliable photographic proof of U.S. citizenship, of all folks who wish to vote for U.S. representatives? Whites would be affected by this in the same way as blacks, Latinos, etc.


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27 Oct 2013, 1:23 am

simon_says wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
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The far right hellscape known as Canada has voter ID laws, racists!


Not a valid comparison. A huge range of IDs can be used in Canada, and even if you don't have one you can take an oath and have a friend with ID vouch for you. There is no question whatsoever that the various Republican efforts to restrict voting is designed to hurt Democratic voters. That's why they do it. To suggest otherwise is silly.


Nonsense, it will disenfranchise no one just as it does no one in Canada since IDs are freely available. Getting an ID is no harder than registering to vote. There is no evidence that it suppresses any voters. This is a fake narrative used to scare people and raise money.



The Republican efforts to reduce early voting days, require very specific photo ID, reduce polling hours, purge voter rolls and all the rest are clearly designed for one purpose. You even have a Republican precinct captain bragging about it in a video in this thread. It's pretty obvious.

Comparing those efforts to Canada requiring you to bring just about any form of ID, including student ID, non photo ID, a fishing license or some mail, or have a friend vouch for you.....is just nuts. Really, get a grip, you are quickly slipping further into kooky talk radio land. You just repeat talking points and think we should care? Good luck with that.


I don't repeat anyone, I don't listen to talk radio or watch Fox News. The narratives you repeat however are created by the left wing media and blogs like the Daily Kos. Apparently stopping voter fraud hurts Democrats, boohoo. I guess according to them it doesn't exist and has never happened in history, right... You can get an ID freely, it is no harder than registering to vote. It effects everyone equally, it disenfranchises no one. People that don't have IDs(miniscule) probably don't have them because they don't need them, not because they don't have access to them. You need an ID for pretty much any service you get from that state, at least the ones I've lived in and I believe they're required by law to offer to register you to vote when receiving said services. It's not to much to ask and repeating the lie that it disenfranchises people over and over won't make it true.



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27 Oct 2013, 1:32 am

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Question: why is it inherently racist to require reliable photographic proof of U.S. citizenship, of all folks who wish to vote for U.S. representatives? Whites would be affected by this in the same way as blacks, Latinos, etc.


Poor people can not always afford such ID. On top of that, since such laws have become enacted, it's suddenly become more difficult to acquire said ID's. Case in point - one elderly black lady who had been voting in virtually every election since she was of age suddenly was told she did not qualify for voter ID when she applied for such. The reason? She could not produce her marriage license. The poor woman had been a widow for years. In other cases, government offices from which proper ID's could be attained were closed down in predominantly poor or minority neighborhoods, while the remaining offices were open for limited days. In Wisconsin, one state employee had been fired for revealing to poor ID applicants that they could receive proper ID for free - disobeying an order directly from the Republican governor's office. Such laws and the ridiculous rules are obviously meant to keep proper ID out of the hands of poor, elderly, and minority voters. Or in other words, Democrats.


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27 Oct 2013, 1:40 am

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Question: why is it inherently racist to require reliable photographic proof of U.S. citizenship, of all folks who wish to vote for U.S. representatives? Whites would be affected by this in the same way as blacks, Latinos, etc.


Poor people can not always afford such ID. On top of that, since such laws have become enacted, it's suddenly become more difficult to acquire said ID's. Case in point - one elderly black lady who had been voting in virtually every election since she was of age suddenly was told she did not qualify for voter ID when she applied for such. The reason? She could not produce her marriage license. The poor woman had been a widow for years. In other cases, government offices from which proper ID's could be attained were closed down in predominantly poor or minority neighborhoods, while the remaining offices were open for limited days. In Wisconsin, one state employee had been fired for revealing to poor ID applicants that they could receive proper ID for free - disobeying an order directly from the Republican governor's office. Such laws and the ridiculous rules are obviously meant to keep proper ID out of the hands of poor, elderly, and minority voters. Or in other words, Democrats.


I've never had to pay for any state issued ID.



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27 Oct 2013, 1:53 am

Jacoby wrote:
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Question: why is it inherently racist to require reliable photographic proof of U.S. citizenship, of all folks who wish to vote for U.S. representatives? Whites would be affected by this in the same way as blacks, Latinos, etc.


Poor people can not always afford such ID. On top of that, since such laws have become enacted, it's suddenly become more difficult to acquire said ID's. Case in point - one elderly black lady who had been voting in virtually every election since she was of age suddenly was told she did not qualify for voter ID when she applied for such. The reason? She could not produce her marriage license. The poor woman had been a widow for years. In other cases, government offices from which proper ID's could be attained were closed down in predominantly poor or minority neighborhoods, while the remaining offices were open for limited days. In Wisconsin, one state employee had been fired for revealing to poor ID applicants that they could receive proper ID for free - disobeying an order directly from the Republican governor's office. Such laws and the ridiculous rules are obviously meant to keep proper ID out of the hands of poor, elderly, and minority voters. Or in other words, Democrats.


I've never had to pay for any state issued ID.


You apparently live in a state that treats citizens better than Wisconsin or Florida do.


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27 Oct 2013, 3:54 am

I don't understand your post. It seems like you are mixing up "as unpopular as the Klan" with "just like the Klan."



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27 Oct 2013, 6:57 am

Jacoby wrote:
simon_says wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
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The far right hellscape known as Canada has voter ID laws, racists!


Not a valid comparison. A huge range of IDs can be used in Canada, and even if you don't have one you can take an oath and have a friend with ID vouch for you. There is no question whatsoever that the various Republican efforts to restrict voting is designed to hurt Democratic voters. That's why they do it. To suggest otherwise is silly.


Nonsense, it will disenfranchise no one just as it does no one in Canada since IDs are freely available. Getting an ID is no harder than registering to vote. There is no evidence that it suppresses any voters. This is a fake narrative used to scare people and raise money.



The Republican efforts to reduce early voting days, require very specific photo ID, reduce polling hours, purge voter rolls and all the rest are clearly designed for one purpose. You even have a Republican precinct captain bragging about it in a video in this thread. It's pretty obvious.

Comparing those efforts to Canada requiring you to bring just about any form of ID, including student ID, non photo ID, a fishing license or some mail, or have a friend vouch for you.....is just nuts. Really, get a grip, you are quickly slipping further into kooky talk radio land. You just repeat talking points and think we should care? Good luck with that.


I don't repeat anyone, I don't listen to talk radio or watch Fox News. The narratives you repeat however are created by the left wing media and blogs like the Daily Kos. Apparently stopping voter fraud hurts Democrats, boohoo. I guess according to them it doesn't exist and has never happened in history, right... You can get an ID freely, it is no harder than registering to vote. It effects everyone equally, it disenfranchises no one. People that don't have IDs(miniscule) probably don't have them because they don't need them, not because they don't have access to them. You need an ID for pretty much any service you get from that state, at least the ones I've lived in and I believe they're required by law to offer to register you to vote when receiving said services. It's not to much to ask and repeating the lie that it disenfranchises people over and over won't make it true.


As I said. and you ignored, Republicans try to restrict access to voting in a number of ways. Taken together the pattern is very clear. To discourage casual voters or those who are pressed for time and to discourage those who are poor and don't have the money to pay for the documents that would get them an ID. To get an ID you'll need documents. If you don't have them that will cost you money to get issued regardless of a given state's price for ID itself. If you are below the poverty line and barely eating that's quite a choice to make.

Your point about Canada collapsed because the Canadian requirements are nothing like these new Republican requirements.



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27 Oct 2013, 7:04 am

Jacoby wrote:
I've never had to pay for any state issued ID.


What state is that?