israel sure looks like nazi germany

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16 Feb 2014, 1:07 pm

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Yeah. Not for Sale. Oddly that is what Poland told Hitler.

Show me where Poland has ever said this to Germany?

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16 Feb 2014, 1:09 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

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Yeah. Not for Sale. Oddly that is what Poland told Hitler.

Show me where Poland has ever said this to Germany?

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16 Feb 2014, 1:10 pm

This guy seemed pretty sure that there was arabs before the arrival of the Israelis. He would know, he was there.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/life-st ... -days.html

Palestinian passports and money pre-Israel

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16 Feb 2014, 2:32 pm

I don't think Israel is like Nazi Germany, that is an exaggeration, but it is pretty bad. I was actually quite ignorant of Israeli history until recently, when I read the Wikipedia article. I am generally pro Western and highly dislike Islam as a religion. I took it for granted that the Israeli Jews had done nothing wrong. But reading the history changed that. The Zionists from allover the world (especially Europe) came in masses into a land that was populated by Arabs and pushed the Arabs into a corner. The Arabs lost their homes to Zionists from Europe. How can anyone not see that as wrong? Damn Western politics! This is disgraceful and immoral! I am very disappointed with Western politicians. These scumbags are a disgrace to the West.

I feel for the Palestinians. These Zionists had their home in Europe and by force took away people's homes. It would be like the French going into Portugal, rounding up the Portuguese and deporting them a small part of Portugal while keeping the rest for themselves.

The only justification that most of today's migrant Jews in Israel can have for staying there is that they were born there and have been there for two or three generations. But there is no question that what their parents and grandparents did was disgraceful and immoral. In order to do this they must condemn the violence perpetrated by their parents and grandparents against innocent people and make peace with the Palestinians. The Palestinians need to be free to move throughout Israel. It can no longer be a Jewish state. The Jewish migration policy must end!

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16 Feb 2014, 2:50 pm

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It's always funny when people post anti-semittic false analogies on the internet.

Where is the anti-semitism?

One-sided focus on human rights violations in Israel, yet deliberately ignoring anything that goes on in the rest of the Middle East isn't fueled by anti-semitism? It's either because Israel is a capitalism success story or because the country is ruled by jews.

I don't see where anyone denied anti-anti-Semitic exists in the middle east, from....I also don't see how trying to eliminate arabs from Israel is a solution to anti-antisemitism since I doubt all arabs are anti-semitic. Also for ***** sake both the jews and the arabs are semitic races so wtf anyways.

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16 Feb 2014, 3:05 pm

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Not only that, if you are Palestinian (who identifies as Palestinian rather than Israeli) and you leave the territories, you can never go back even if your ancestry in Palestine stretches back to the start of Islam. If you are a Jew living in New York or London, not only do you and your family have instant entitlement to Israeli citizenship even if you or your family have never been there the Israeli government will pay you to go and move on Palestinian land.

Just keep that in mind next time an Israeli supporter tries to tell you that arabs in Israel are treated equally.

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16 Feb 2014, 3:21 pm

Didn't know that! That is seriously f*cked up! Dirty Western politics.

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16 Feb 2014, 3:25 pm

So this article on the topic strikes me as intresting....gotta leave for a bit though so i will just leave this here for now and finish reading when I return.

intresting...

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16 Feb 2014, 3:30 pm

Ok sweetie you do that

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So this article on the topic strikes me as intresting....gotta leave for a bit though so i will just leave this here for now and finish reading when I return.

intresting...

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16 Feb 2014, 3:31 pm

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Didn't know that! That is seriously f*cked up! Dirty Western politics.

When I was at university I used to attend meetings with a group called the PSU. Its run by Palestinian students who are banished by Israel from their homelands for the crime of being Palestinian citizens outside of the OPT.

Of course you wont hear this being mentioned by Tequila, Kurgan and co.

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16 Feb 2014, 3:57 pm

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16 Feb 2014, 4:01 pm

Naom Comsky is as biased as Glenn Beck.

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16 Feb 2014, 4:01 pm

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Yes there were some Arabs not that many and lots more came during the Intifadas to help their Palestinian brethren and they are what you see in Gaza now. They are refugees from other countries, mostly Egypt and Lebanon some are from Jordan.

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16 Feb 2014, 4:28 pm

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Naom Comsky is as biased as Glenn Beck.

if he's biased its because his arguments unlike Beck are backed up with a concrete understanding of history and politics.

Chomsky is widely regarded as one of the most intelligent men alive.

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16 Feb 2014, 5:36 pm

hyena wrote:

Ok sweetie you do that

Sweetleaf wrote:

So this article on the topic strikes me as intresting....gotta leave for a bit though so i will just leave this here for now and finish reading when I return.

intresting...

Anyways it was very interesting, and points out many jews do not align themselves with Israel and many are even very critical of it, seems its the younger generation becoming more critical...and I don't think they are anti-semitic against themselves. Also the article points out both sides are behaving in a problematic manner.

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16 Feb 2014, 5:40 pm

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www.nkusa.com

Neturei Karta? Trolololololol!

You endorse people that happily line up with the out-and-out fascists of Jobbik and the Iranian holocaust denying-mullahs. (See them turning out in support of Gabor Vona in London last month.)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26201010

Brave Jobbikites fighting Zionism in Hungary.

And just for you:

http://jobbik.hu/tagfelvetel_kulhonbol

Chop chop! I'm sure they'll send you an entry pack and everything.

Wasn't it really the british army that got the ball rolling. Like what they did in Ireland. :chin:

I think you can make plenty comparisons between Northern Ireland and Israel. :wink:

toora loora loora loo, they're looking for monkeys up at the zoo
"if i had a face like you, i'd join the british army"

:lmao:

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when i was young i used to be as fine a man as ever you'd see
the prince of wales he said to me: "come and join the british army"
toora loora loora loo, they're looking for monkeys up at the zoo
"if i had a face like you, i'd join the british army"

sarah comden baked a cake, it was all for poor oul slattery's sake
i threw herself into the lake, pretending i was barmy
toora loora loora loo, it was the only thing i could do
to work my ticket home to you and f**k the british army"

corporal lennegan got such a drought, just give him a couple of jars of stout;
he'll kill the enemy with his mouth and save the british army.
too ra loo ra loo ra loo, me curse is on the labour crew;
they took your darling boy from you to join the british army.

kilted soldier's wear no drawers, ladies, will you lend them yours?
the poor should always help the poor, god save the british army!
toora loora loora loo, they're looking for monkeys up at the zoo
"if i had a face like you, i'd join the british army"

captain heeley went away and his wife got in the family way,
and all the words that she would say was "blame the british army."
too ra loo ra loo ra loo, i've made me mind up what to do
i'll work my ticket home to you and f**k the british army

when i was young i used to be as fine a man as ever you'd see
the prince of wales he said to me: "come and join the british army"
too ra loo ra loo ra loo, i've made me mind up what to do
i'll work my ticket home to you and f**k the british army

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