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20 Dec 2014, 10:51 pm

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Changing society is more about actively making needed changes and less about complaining that changes need to be made.

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Well sometimes its just an observation and not a complaint per say.


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21 Dec 2014, 12:22 am

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We, not the government, ARE society and it's ours to make or break.




What if my grievances are not with the government but with "We the people?" How do we autistics petition "We the people" for redress of grievances?



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21 Dec 2014, 11:58 am

cubedemon6073 wrote:
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We, not the government, ARE society and it's ours to make or break.




What if my grievances are not with the government but with "We the people?" How do we autistics petition "We the people" for redress of grievances?


As autism awareness increases grievances will become less common. There will always be injustices for us as a whole but the more people understand us the more things will smooth out.


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21 Dec 2014, 12:02 pm

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We, not the government, ARE society and it's ours to make or break.




What if my grievances are not with the government but with "We the people?" How do we autistics petition "We the people" for redress of grievances?


But we are within 'we the people' so how exactly does that work?


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21 Dec 2014, 12:38 pm

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cubedemon6073 wrote:
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We, not the government, ARE society and it's ours to make or break.




What if my grievances are not with the government but with "We the people?" How do we autistics petition "We the people" for redress of grievances?


As autism awareness increases grievances will become less common. There will always be injustices for us as a whole but the more people understand us the more things will smooth out.


My friend, I hope you're right.



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21 Dec 2014, 12:40 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
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We, not the government, ARE society and it's ours to make or break.




What if my grievances are not with the government but with "We the people?" How do we autistics petition "We the people" for redress of grievances?


But we are within 'we the people' so how exactly does that work?


Good question! I should have said certain segments of "We the people." I should have been more precise.



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21 Dec 2014, 2:55 pm

I'd love to point out every useless point of the last few posts, but my wife and I are about to deliver some meals to some very hungry people.

Enjoy your debate!

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22 Dec 2014, 12:03 am

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I'd love to point out every useless point of the last few posts, but my wife and I are about to deliver some meals to some very hungry people.


I am glad my friend!

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I enjoy it immensely. I learn, I grow, I understand more.

Oh Fnord, before I go and enjoy myself I forgot to tell ya! Please Be Safe Out there!



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22 Dec 2014, 12:30 am

Well I just wish we had more time since it appears we ran out of time to fix our country. Things might just collapse sooner than you think.

I don't know what other options we have. What use is discussion with the big media existing? Why can't the ball start rolling sooner?



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22 Dec 2014, 12:50 am

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Well I just wish we had more time since it appears we ran out of time to fix our country. Things might just collapse sooner than you think.


We currently cannot find enough suckers to loan the government money so it is borrowing large amounts from the Federal Reserve. In essence, the Federal Reserve is printing fiat money in order that the government can remain on a spending spree. If that money was for investment, it would not be as bad because we could expect that it would eventually result in an economic expansion that would return more than was borrowed to the country. But for consumption, it is just gone and we get nothing for it except debt.

The amount of money being created out of thin air is bad, but would not completely disastrous if the government had any sense of fiscal responsible. Since that is not the case, it is not likely that our spending will decrease and the debt will keep growing until it can grow no more.



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22 Dec 2014, 7:36 am

Would someone please serve up some cheese and crackers?

I need something to go along with all of this whine.

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22 Dec 2014, 9:30 am

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22 Dec 2014, 9:58 am

Fnord wrote:
Would someone please serve up some cheese and crackers?

I need something to go along with all of this whine.

:lol:


What kind of cheese and crackers do you want? Saltines? Low-fat? Cheddar? Mozzarella? Provolone?

Would you like some moonshine instead of Whine?

Fnord, you definitely have made my day. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Seriously, you should be a comedian. Maybe Raptor and Reuven can be your sidekick. Maybe you three can do slapstick and tell corny but fun jokes. Think ya three can hook some of us up with a front row seat? :lol:



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22 Dec 2014, 9:58 am

Trying to become prosperous by spending more and more money is kind of like trying to become physically fit by eating more and more cake.



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22 Dec 2014, 10:03 am

eric76 wrote:
Trying to become prosperous by spending more and more money is kind of like trying to become physically fit by eating more and more cake.


Why is the focus on economics and politics only?



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22 Dec 2014, 10:27 am

eric76 wrote:
K_Kelly wrote:
Well I just wish we had more time since it appears we ran out of time to fix our country. Things might just collapse sooner than you think.


We currently cannot find enough suckers to loan the government money so it is borrowing large amounts from the Federal Reserve. In essence, the Federal Reserve is printing fiat money in order that the government can remain on a spending spree. If that money was for investment, it would not be as bad because we could expect that it would eventually result in an economic expansion that would return more than was borrowed to the country. But for consumption, it is just gone and we get nothing for it except debt.

The amount of money being created out of thin air is bad, but would not completely disastrous if the government had any sense of fiscal responsible. Since that is not the case, it is not likely that our spending will decrease and the debt will keep growing until it can grow no more.


Okay, so what do you think is being consumed THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE INVESTMENT TO PRODUCE?

Concerning money being created out of thin air, did you know that expanding the money supply is a common tool for stimulating economic growth?

A POSSIBLE bad side effect of this is inflation IF TOO MUCH is created because "too much money will be chasing too few goods" thus driving up prices...

CURRENTLY, THIS IS NOT HAPPENING.

The things that are currently holding back the national and world economies are related to low inflation/deflation (see Japan) and poor consumer demand. One reason for this is because too much money is being hoarded at the top by banks and 1%ers. What we need is more consumption and that is most easily achieved by putting money in the hands of PEOPLE WHO WILL SPEND IT IN THE REAL ECONOMY--buying groceries, paying rent, going to movies, eating at restaurants, getting hair cuts, buying Christmas presents, etc.

That's the sort of economic activity that creates demand, stimulates investment and creates jobs. People with jobs spend even more money in a virtuous cycle that benefits everyone.



You know, what's really destroying this country are good intentions misdirected by ignorance.


The best thing you could do to save the country is TAKE AN ECONOMICS CLASS.


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