Terrorist attack in France

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they dont stone people and blow themself up. they are true followers of jesus christ.

funny thing you belive non-belivers are decent good people. ever heard of mao zedeng, lenin and stalin?

Hang on! You're not trying to portray christians as without sin, are you?

I'm fairly sure that's doctrinally unsound in any branch of the faith.

Oh, here we go - this crap always gets dragged up by misinformed Theists time and time again . . . do a little research before making claims like that, even if only to stop yourself from looking stupid: http://www.skepticink.com/tippling/2014/03/03/a-great-myth-about-atheism-hitlerstalinpol-pot-atheism-atrocity/

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... especially among Lutherans ...

"Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but more frequently than not struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God." -- Martin Luther

"Accordingly, it must and dare not be considered a trifling matter but a most serious one to seek counsel against this and to save our souls from the Jews, that is, from the devil and from eternal death. My advice, as I said earlier, is:

First, that their synagogues be burned down, and that all who are able toss sulphur and pitch; it would be good if someone could also throw in some hellfire...

Second, that all their books-- their prayer books, their Talmudic writings, also the entire Bible-- be taken from them, not leaving them one leaf, and that these be preserved for those who may be converted...

Third, that they be forbidden on pain of death to praise God, to give thanks, to pray, and to teach publicly among us and in our country...

Fourth, that they be forbidden to utter the name of God within our hearing. For we cannot with a good conscience listen to this or tolerate it..." -Martin Luther (On the Jews and Their Lies)

"The word and works of God is quite clear, that women were made either to be wives or prostitutes." -- Martin Luther

"No gown worse becomes a woman than the desire to be wise." -- Martin Luther

Yes, many lutherans is following this.....

They are followers of Jesus Christ, not a man named Martin Luther (who was an idiot).

stalin and hitler was not christians. they did not care about christianity. hitler killed people becuse of his nazi-ideolgy and stalin killed people becuse of his communism-idelogy.

if we are gonna blame hitler and stalin for being christians, then with the same logic, gaddafi, saddam, assad etc are muslims and killing in the name of islam.

Where did I say that they have no sin? I only said they are not stoning people and doing terrorists attacks. So its not about culture.

In fact, arab christians have never stoned people or burning someone. True christians. Unlike the white middle-age christians.

Sorry to interrupt with reality but ....
THIS JUST IN ......

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/world ... .html?_r=0

THE TERRORISTS ARE DEAD.

My take on the Paris shooting was reflected yesterday http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2015/1/ ... -operation quite well by Jewish Israeli-born jazz musician and author Gilad Atzmon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Atzmon who wrote that "...there is an alternative narrative that turns our perception of this disastrous Paris massacre on its head." Having spent most of his life in Israel, Atzmon probably has the most informed opinion about terroristic attacks; certainly more so than most Americans.

Great news.

Islam. The Religion of Peace??????

They've been in the dark ages for quite for hundreds of years. It won't be a religion of peace for a very long time if I'm to guess, seeing as it's a stoning for apostasy and tons of other stupid crap in a lot of countries with Islam as the state religion.

Only becuse some nazis were christians it does not mean that all nazis were christans and that the nazi ideology is a part of christianity. Almost all nazis were not belivers in Jesus, they were however culture christian, just like you are.


About Hitler, from Wikipedia:

Goebbels wrote in 1941 that Hitler "hates Christianity, because it has crippled all that is noble in humanity.

Many historians have come to the conclusion that Hitler's long term aim was the eradication of Christianity in Germany

Adolf Hitler was skeptical of all religious belief.[9] Alan Bullock saw Hitler as a "materialist".

"[Hitler] himself saw Christianity as a temporary ally, for in his opinion 'one is either a Christian or a German'. To be both was impossible. Nazism itself was a religion, a pagan religion, and Hitler was its high priest... Its high altar [was] Germany itself and the German people, their soil and forests and language and traditions"

Hitler emphasised that Nazism was a secular ideology founded on modern science.

Hitler moved quickly to eliminate Political Catholicism in Germany. Amid intimidation, the Bavarian People's Party and Catholic Centre Party had ceased to exist by early July.

Hitler's invasion of predominantly Catholic Poland in 1939 ignited the Second World War. Kerhsaw wrote that, in Hitler's scheme for the Germanization of the East, "There would, he made clear, be no place in this utopia for the Christian Churches.

And there is more, much much more.

Moved from News and Current Events.

MEH.. religions all have their so-called good and bad human created elements associated with the tribal instinct of human beings.

That's not dark ages that is human nature.

And obvious to see here in this thread for the killing SPIRIT of all of a certain type of Muslim.

Tribal is as tribal does.

To break away from that instinctual mentality takes COGNITIVE EFFORT.

I am not seeing much of that here.

Instead, just the normal human instinctual response of "MY TEAM IS BETTER THAN YOURS".

I AM personal friends with several Muslim Women from Pakistan and they have bigger hearts of love, than '99%' of the folks in this thread, except for a handful of critically thinking folks who use rationality instead of emotionality to broad sweep a category of folks with one limited and EMOTIONALLY INSPIRED 'Killing Spirit' brush.

And in my opinion, it is no less disgusting than the terrorist attack, in spirit, as it is JUST THIS KIND OF human instinctual tribal SENTIMENT expressed by the 'herd' at large that can lead to the next go around of an 'Iraq', of such ignorant killing of innocents as that.

There are extremists everywhere, IN SMALL POCKETS, and there are 'truly' critical thinkers almost NOWHERE, EVERYWHERE ONE looks.

At least in my opinion, as I get out there and mix with the real world, not just public opinion on the INTERWEBZ.

There are always psychopathic leaning folks out there, in the herd at large, willing to use any ideology to advance their own selfish needs for power whether it is MATERIALISM, POLITICAL, or RELIGIOUS POWER.

AND THERE are always weak, impressionable, and often abused VULNERABLE young folks just UNWITTINGLY waiting to be prey from these PREDATORS TO MINDLESSLY AND HEARTLESSLY DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.

SOMETIMES folks are killed and sometimes lives are just ruined by BRAINWASHING B.S.

But never the less, it is part of the human condition, and will go on as long as humans live on this earth, regardless of what the label of the religions are, Christian, Jew, or Muslim, PRO-BALL, or whatever else.

Organized TEAM sports work better, as no one usually gets killed for a team to root for and fight for, as TRIBAL FAN.

Human is human, with or without a label, per nature as such, and the tribal instinct IS JUST THAT, HUMAN IN ALL ITS good and bad attributes, as assessed by humans.

And will anything I say here change anyone's mind, hell no, extremely unlikely, as folks in general, so-called Autistic or NOT, are almost always led by their emotions over so-called rationality, except for people who do know how to turn them off, and just think, with A cognitively critical conscious style, If they CAN.