Are you a child of God? Will you be God’s master or slave?
GOD is both a rational and emotional THING.. AMONG many other THINGS.. AND FEELINGS PER mother nature TRUTH.
TO NOT use an entire mind and body in POTENTIAL balance of emotions is a terrible thing to lose......
That is why I put this above.
Truth is a treasure to the mind.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... /mary.html
For where the mind is, there is the treasure.
The Saviour answered and said, 'He does not see through the soul nor through the spirit, but the mind which [is] between the two - that is [what] sees the vision...'
Matthew 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Regards
DL
GOD is both a rational and emotional THING.. AMONG many other THINGS.. AND FEELINGS PER mother nature TRUTH.
TO NOT use an entire mind and body in POTENTIAL balance of emotions is a terrible thing to lose......
That is why I put this above.
Truth is a treasure to the mind.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... /mary.html
For where the mind is, there is the treasure.
The Saviour answered and said, 'He does not see through the soul nor through the spirit, but the mind which [is] between the two - that is [what] sees the vision...'
Matthew 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Regards
DL
Can you be happy if you are not living a moral life?
Should your highest moral tenet be centered on others or on yourself?
Most seem to think that centering on others is the highest morals but you seem to be centering on yourself.
Please listen to this presentation and see if you would rephrase your view.
http://blog.ted.com/2008/09/17/the_real_differ/
I agree that our happiness should be close to our highest desire but cannot see being happy if those around us are not.
Regards
DL
GOD is both a rational and emotional THING.. AMONG many other THINGS.. AND FEELINGS PER mother nature TRUTH.
TO NOT use an entire mind and body in POTENTIAL balance of emotions is a terrible thing to lose......
That is why I put this above.
Truth is a treasure to the mind.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... /mary.html
For where the mind is, there is the treasure.
The Saviour answered and said, 'He does not see through the soul nor through the spirit, but the mind which [is] between the two - that is [what] sees the vision...'
Matthew 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Regards
DL
The only treasure i 'know' is now and i FEEL that WAY...as TRUTH in heArt.
MIND IS only tool.. for treasure AS NOW...
And nah.. even if THE REAL MAN Jesus says otherwise.. i for one put no human above another.. in potential wisdom evolving.... OF COURSE.. including me.... on course.. as the ONLY way to evolution OF human SPIRIT AND HEART.. is through humble acceptance of NOT KNOWING IT ALL and understanding that mind is only tool AND NOT essence of what human BEING IS..
Or relying on books of past alone for TRUTH.
YES, Still waiting for one to tell me something NEW, and not re-hashed or LINKED from someone else.
And I will hold out hope for that..
As truly almost anything is possible WHEN HUMAN RELATIVE FREE WILL is found.. utilized and MASTERED IN practice and NEVER GOAL in NOW.
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Can you be happy if you are not living a moral life?
Should your highest moral tenet be centered on others or on yourself?
Most seem to think that centering on others is the highest morals but you seem to be centering on yourself.
Please listen to this presentation and see if you would rephrase your view.
http://blog.ted.com/2008/09/17/the_real_differ/
I agree that our happiness should be close to our highest desire but cannot see being happy if those around us are not.
Regards
DL
IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR humans to make other humans happy in TRUE EFFECT of affect if they are not happy and LOVE themselves...AS IS.. AS the two are married and not LIKEly separate partners....
If so.. a timid soul is all they may be....
So far who has has one made happy in this discussion.. by one's expressed philosophy about life....
To me it seems one may be SOMEWHAT 'cold' IN WAYS of heart.. SOUL.. and spirit.. from the words one parrots here from the words and links from others... that truly for the most part seem like empty housing of nothingness to me... IN VEHICLES and vessels of a time of NOw in words gone past....
To be right is nothing.. to connect in emotions IS all tHere IS in TRUE HUMAN LIFE....
TO DO THAT takes sharing.. PERSONAL PHILOSOPHY ABOUT FEELING LIFE.. and not just parroting WHAT someone else has done and said...
In just my opinion of course.. AS IT WORKS ALL THE TIME IN NOW FOR ME...

I smile my way THROUGH life, CONNECTING TO ALL OTHERS IN REAL LIFE unconditional love FLESH AND BLOOD CONNECTIONS.. with never a real worry or care...
And nah.. with no worries about the differences of others.. neither so-called higher or lower than i...
Perhaps that is a fool to you..
But my cat does the same thing.. as he too doesn't worry about abstract constructs of BS.....in human abstract language and complex human cultural ways of illusion...
And nah.. my cat is no fool.. as he is more human than many folks I come across in an average day's work of Unconditional Love....
Just living is enough for one who FEELS THE WAY TO DO IT THAT WORKS! IN connection to all others AS ONE!
AND THAT'S ALL THAT COUNTS IN THIS LIFE.. for one who truly 'knows' THE FEELING OF life....AS IS per the REAL AND ONLY ONE CONNECTING INTERDEPENDENT RELATIONSHIP OF ALL THAT IS AKA GOD.
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“The modalities of awakened doing are acceptance, enjoyment, and enthusiasm. Each one represents a certain vibrational frequency of consciousness. You need to be vigilant to make sure that one of them operates whenever you are engaged in doing anything at all – from the most simple task to the most complex.”~ Eckhart Tolle
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That is not the usual Christian thinking. It is the usual Gnostic Christian thinking.
Welcome.
Do you try to lead your fellow Christian to your view?
Most of those will likely quote you John and his, you are either a slave to God or a slave to sin mantra.
Regards
DL
I second you and Eckhart Tolle, on this simple but true human BEING wisdom.
ONE must feel human to be human, truly, in at least one of these ways of FEELING HUMAN BEING..

TO ACCEPT all that is unconditionally TO enjoy all that is UNCONDITIONALLY TO EXPRESS PASSION IN THE ENTHUSIASM OF LIFE WITH ALL OTHERS and all that is unconditionally CAN BE AS SIMPLE AS A DANCE OF SONG IN CONNECTING NON-VERBAL LANGUAGE OF MOVEMENT WITH ALL OTHERS present in Now too!
This ain't rocket science.
THIS IS THE LANGUAGE OF LIVING LIFE FREE AS HUMAN BEING LIKE A BUTTERFLY WHO ARRIVES ALIVE FREE FROM COCOON EXISTENCE!
AND IT IS
SACRED UNCONDITIONAL LOVE..
THE HIGHEST POWER OF FORCE EVER KNOWNow AS GOD!
First tHere is dark then light then movement or dance followed by sound or song fueling dance or movement in INFINITE LOOP OF EXISTENCE AS IS!
SO WHY NOT DANCE AND SING AND REFLECT THE GOD OF ALL THAT IS!..
IS what i for one, dance and sing NOW FOR ONE THAT IS ALL THAT IS AKA GOD!
IT Works for me, at least, as one part of the BIG ONE THAT IS GOD in my fractal existence as IS NOW.

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Was this supposed to answer my question to you?
I hope I did not ask what you could not answer.
Regards
DL
Can you be happy if you are not living a moral life?
Should your highest moral tenet be centered on others or on yourself?
Most seem to think that centering on others is the highest morals but you seem to be centering on yourself.
Please listen to this presentation and see if you would rephrase your view.
http://blog.ted.com/2008/09/17/the_real_differ/
I agree that our happiness should be close to our highest desire but cannot see being happy if those around us are not.
Regards
DL
Which part would you like me to rephrase, I'm not sure what you mean or who your rephrasing about. I'm not sure what you mean about: can you be happy if you are not leading a moral life. Does it mean somebody living without morals, or does it mean somebody does not understand morals, or do we just give ourselves a hard time. I don't quite understand as I do live by my own morals which derive from my own feelings which would mean that I am self centred and would often wonder what it is I did to offend. I guess if you didn't live up to your own moral standards you could be unhappy, and if you didn't have any it wouldn't matter anyway. I am curious to what you mean by that?
Should your highest moral tenet be centered on others or on yourself?
Another question I don't understand, I suppose it depends for what purpose, If you spend more time focusing your energy on other people then you are talented person, but then I would hope that the morals where intended for that person and not just self satisfaction and corruption, which is also interesting because without self satisfaction there is no moral centre for others which presents a conundrum, or they coincide each person making each other happy or sad. Now I'm talking waffle and my brain has gone to pancake batter I'm just going to say what I originally wanted to say which is without understanding yourself is without understanding others and visa versa. Arghhhh overload.............. if there was no happiness we would cease to exist surely, who wants to live unhappy? Why would you want to hear this from me anyway did I do something wrong.
You can lead a horse to a lake but you can't make it drink.
So in a way I'm not self centred because I want to give people hope as much as I want hope, and it's information that keeps me fascinated
And who do you quote on not being happy, I don't know what this means everybody gets unhappy. Unhappiness sets a motion just does happiness. If it's you that can't see the happiness then I have described my happiness such as you have described yours about god. Everyone has to find there's it's part of living, even animals pleasure seek.
Happiness is your god to staying healthy, having happy cells and thinking more focused thoughts. Only you know what makes you happy. But I admit being happy is not easy and seeing other people suffer isn't easy either. But like I said happiness as well as sadness and fear is like a plague and it takes people to break or start a cycle.
Lol after all this I don't even know where this is going but I'm posting it anyway. Oh yeah happiness
I'm still sticking with my opinion that we are all god, and god does not hold all of the pleasure because he gave it all to us here. For me a metaphorical sense. 7 billion people and the planet, that's a huge responsibility for mankind. We all need to wake up and smell the coffee. I'm more interested about serving the planet than I am god. And even if I don't succeed well at least I tried.
Regards
Can you be happy if you are not living a moral life?
Should your highest moral tenet be centered on others or on yourself?
Most seem to think that centering on others is the highest morals but you seem to be centering on yourself.
Please listen to this presentation and see if you would rephrase your view.
http://blog.ted.com/2008/09/17/the_real_differ/
I agree that our happiness should be close to our highest desire but cannot see being happy if those around us are not.
Regards
DL
Which part would you like me to rephrase, I'm not sure what you mean or who your rephrasing about. I'm not sure what you mean about: can you be happy if you are not leading a moral life. Does it mean somebody living without morals, or does it mean somebody does not understand morals, or do we just give ourselves a hard time. I don't quite understand as I do live by my own morals which derive from my own feelings which would mean that I am self centred and would often wonder what it is I did to offend. I guess if you didn't live up to your own moral standards you could be unhappy, and if you didn't have any it wouldn't matter anyway. I am curious to what you mean by that?
Should your highest moral tenet be centered on others or on yourself?
Another question I don't understand, I suppose it depends for what purpose, If you spend more time focusing your energy on other people then you are talented person, but then I would hope that the morals where intended for that person and not just self satisfaction and corruption, which is also interesting because without self satisfaction there is no moral centre for others which presents a conundrum, or they coincide each person making each other happy or sad. Now I'm talking waffle and my brain has gone to pancake batter I'm just going to say what I originally wanted to say which is without understanding yourself is without understanding others and visa versa. Arghhhh overload.............. if there was no happiness we would cease to exist surely, who wants to live unhappy? Why would you want to hear this from me anyway did I do something wrong.
You can lead a horse to a lake but you can't make it drink.
So in a way I'm not self centred because I want to give people hope as much as I want hope, and it's information that keeps me fascinated
And who do you quote on not being happy, I don't know what this means everybody gets unhappy. Unhappiness sets a motion just does happiness. If it's you that can't see the happiness then I have described my happiness such as you have described yours about god. Everyone has to find there's it's part of living, even animals pleasure seek.
Happiness is your god to staying healthy, having happy cells and thinking more focused thoughts. Only you know what makes you happy. But I admit being happy is not easy and seeing other people suffer isn't easy either. But like I said happiness as well as sadness and fear is like a plague and it takes people to break or start a cycle.
Lol after all this I don't even know where this is going but I'm posting it anyway. Oh yeah happiness
I'm still sticking with my opinion that we are all god, and god does not hold all of the pleasure because he gave it all to us here. For me a metaphorical sense. 7 billion people and the planet, that's a huge responsibility for mankind. We all need to wake up and smell the coffee. I'm more interested about serving the planet than I am god. And even if I don't succeed well at least I tried.
Regards
Did you follow that link?
It does not sound like you did so I am not surprised that you did not get the gist of what I was trying to show.
Have a look and just do the one question.
Should our highest moral tenet be centered on others or self-centered?
Regards
DL
Did you follow that link?
It does not sound like you did so I am not surprised that you did not get the gist of what I was trying to show.
Have a look and just do the one question.
Should our highest moral tenet be centered on others or self-centered?
Regards
DL
No....... Lol I will have to watch later my computer is slow for videos at the moment
Please could you tell me what the point is to the question?
Did you follow that link?
It does not sound like you did so I am not surprised that you did not get the gist of what I was trying to show.
Have a look and just do the one question.
Should our highest moral tenet be centered on others or self-centered?
Regards
DL
No....... Lol I will have to watch later my computer is slow for videos at the moment
Please could you tell me what the point is to the question?
I will, if I have to, after you view that short clip.
I need to know what level of intelligence I am dealing with before I phrase my reply.
If you cannot understand that clip then I will know.
Regards
DL
I believe we should think of other people at least as much as we think about our selves.
When I say we shouldn't rely on "logic," I mean the medieval "logic" systems which make use of syllogisms. What might seem a fallacy according to such a "system" might actually make sense in real life.
Obviously, one must make use of logic and reason in all things. But one must also make use of empirical experience.
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