06 Aug 2015, 4:55 pm
glebel wrote:
Funny, you are attributing to Christians the proselytizing zeal of you atheists. We can't turn on T.V., listen to the radio, or hardly do or look at anything without having someone try to indoctrinate us into the " There is no God " cult. Your 'beliefs' have as much proof as ours, except we have God's Word and you have flawed science. Why do you people persist in attacking something which gives us comfort, when I would never dream of doing that to you? 
zealotry is not exclusive to atheists and how is a lack of belief indicative of a cult? how would you know what "God's word" is unless you speak aramaic? it's been translated half a dozen times and been corrected a bunch as well.
06 Aug 2015, 5:48 pm
glebel wrote:
Funny, you are attributing to Christians the proselytizing zeal of you atheists. We can't turn on T.V., listen to the radio, or hardly do or look at anything without having someone try to indoctrinate us into the " There is no God " cult. Your 'beliefs' have as much proof as ours, except we have God's Word and you have flawed science. Why do you people persist in attacking something which gives us comfort, when I would never dream of doing that to you?
Such messages are meant for those who are not blinded by faith. Kindly get over yourself. If alternative viewpoints are enough to shake the foundation of your belief, I suggest you stick to religious channels and leave thinking to the rest of us.
06 Aug 2015, 6:04 pm
glebel wrote:
pcuser wrote:
AlexandertheSolitary wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
pcuser wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Now, for at least a number of Christians (and indeed for at least some adherents of a number of other religions, although there are important distinctions in terms of doctrines, view of conversion, historical practices, etc.) the situation would be rather different. If one believes sincerely in Jesus as Lord (to follow the Christian example) and in a number of other doctrines concerning the nature humans and of God, and of the predicament of the World under the oppressive bondage to sin, then quite apart from the natural excitement of wishing to tell others about both a friend, mentor, and Saviour, and indeed any subject of interest, there would be the sincere conviction of the benefits for any convert amongst one's hearers of hearing about Jesus, both in terms of changes in this life, and of hope beyond death (sorry if any of this is offensive to any or makes them uncomfortable, I have striven on the one hand to be logical and analytical, and on the other to not conceal or distort, as well as to make an attempt to explain something). While not all religions have a history of expansion beyond their place of origin (in earthly terms; this may not be the best point to get bogged down in a discussion of the ultimate origin in terms of the internal beliefs of various religious systems) nor do all have a specific theological reason why they should seek to share knowledge of their beliefs or expand the numbers affiliated with their particular religion. Sorry if that is all getting rather vague and difficult to understand.
A big part of the problem is that 'Jesus', their 'friend', is an imaginary figure who is a 'God' and who supposedly told his followers to 'share the good news'. This is a powerful inducement to proselytize their belief system to others at the drop of a hat. That is also made worse by their (often) certainty that they are right and everybody else is doomed to a fiery 'Hell'.
Funny, you are attributing to Christians the proselytizing zeal of you atheists. We can't turn on T.V., listen to the radio, or hardly do or look at anything without having someone try to indoctrinate us into the " There is no God " cult. Your 'beliefs' have as much proof as ours, except we have God's Word and you have flawed science. Why do you people persist in attacking something which gives us comfort, when I would never dream of doing that to you?
I have never tried to convert anyone to atheism. I wouldn't even talk about it if religious people would stop continually trying to put into the force of law the practices they believe in. Think pro-life, anti-science, etc. If that stopped, most of the rest of it would stop. When you religious minded people start minding your own business and live and let live, you won't get the backlash. When you provoke others, expect it right back at you...
06 Aug 2015, 6:06 pm
06 Aug 2015, 10:54 pm
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07 Aug 2015, 2:54 am
07 Aug 2015, 4:30 am
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
A couple of years ago I went on this site and I saw a poll about religion. Apparently about 50 percent of us are atheists. Does this mean that 50 percent of autistics are atheists? I don't think so.
Probably already been said...
Statistically speaking, you can't assume 50% of "us" are atheists...
Only that "50%" of the people who responded to the poll selected "atheist"...
Quote:
We must remember that most people are religious. We are going to face more persecution if people think all autistics are atheists.
We are all at the mercy of idiots who simply don't ask...
"If you assume...you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me"..."
An oldie but a goodie...
There is a solid basis to the assumption
that there is a tendency for aspies to be atheists:*Aspies tend to be more intellectual/cognitive than emotional/intuitive...
*Religion is an emotion based philosophy which actively discourages reasoning/analysis (simply have faith in what you are being told, for example).
Hence, there is a greater tendency for rational/reasoning/logical aspies to be atheists...
Simples...
Also, I have come across an article which suggests aspies tend to embrace atheism because they/we lack "theory of mind"...
07 Aug 2015, 10:20 pm
08 Aug 2015, 8:52 am
08 Aug 2015, 9:07 am
08 Aug 2015, 11:13 am
Fugu wrote:
glebel wrote:
Funny, you are attributing to Christians the proselytizing zeal of you atheists. We can't turn on T.V., listen to the radio, or hardly do or look at anything without having someone try to indoctrinate us into the " There is no God " cult. Your 'beliefs' have as much proof as ours, except we have God's Word and you have flawed science. Why do you people persist in attacking something which gives us comfort, when I would never dream of doing that to you?
zealotry is not exclusive to atheists and how is a lack of belief indicative of a cult? how would you know what "God's word" is unless you speak aramaic? it's been translated half a dozen times and been corrected a bunch as well.
By getting an accurate translation. And actually, the Bible was never written in Aramaic. And as far as atheism being a cult, it is one simply by the fanatical behaviour of it's adherents.
08 Aug 2015, 11:25 am
glebel wrote:
Fugu wrote:
glebel wrote:
Funny, you are attributing to Christians the proselytizing zeal of you atheists. We can't turn on T.V., listen to the radio, or hardly do or look at anything without having someone try to indoctrinate us into the " There is no God " cult. Your 'beliefs' have as much proof as ours, except we have God's Word and you have flawed science. Why do you people persist in attacking something which gives us comfort, when I would never dream of doing that to you?
zealotry is not exclusive to atheists and how is a lack of belief indicative of a cult? how would you know what "God's word" is unless you speak aramaic? it's been translated half a dozen times and been corrected a bunch as well.
By getting an accurate translation. And actually, the Bible was never written in Aramaic. And as far as atheism being a cult, it is one simply by the fanatical behaviour of it's adherents.
If there are fanatical behaviors by atheists, it's because they are fighting for their rights to be left alone. Christians seem always ready to put crap on the ballot to prune away our rights. That won't stand and when it ends, so will the fanaticism. Therefore, it's not a cult...
08 Aug 2015, 11:59 am
pcuser wrote:
glebel wrote:
Fugu wrote:
glebel wrote:
Funny, you are attributing to Christians the proselytizing zeal of you atheists. We can't turn on T.V., listen to the radio, or hardly do or look at anything without having someone try to indoctrinate us into the " There is no God " cult. Your 'beliefs' have as much proof as ours, except we have God's Word and you have flawed science. Why do you people persist in attacking something which gives us comfort, when I would never dream of doing that to you?
zealotry is not exclusive to atheists and how is a lack of belief indicative of a cult? how would you know what "God's word" is unless you speak aramaic? it's been translated half a dozen times and been corrected a bunch as well.
By getting an accurate translation. And actually, the Bible was never written in Aramaic. And as far as atheism being a cult, it is one simply by the fanatical behaviour of it's adherents.
If there are fanatical behaviors by atheists, it's because they are fighting for their rights to be left alone. Christians seem always ready to put crap on the ballot to prune away our rights. That won't stand and when it ends, so will the fanaticism. Therefore, it's not a cult...
Once again, you are accusing us of acting like you. Get a good hard look at yourself.
08 Aug 2015, 12:40 pm
glebel wrote:
pcuser wrote:
glebel wrote:
Fugu wrote:
glebel wrote:
Funny, you are attributing to Christians the proselytizing zeal of you atheists. We can't turn on T.V., listen to the radio, or hardly do or look at anything without having someone try to indoctrinate us into the " There is no God " cult. Your 'beliefs' have as much proof as ours, except we have God's Word and you have flawed science. Why do you people persist in attacking something which gives us comfort, when I would never dream of doing that to you?
zealotry is not exclusive to atheists and how is a lack of belief indicative of a cult? how would you know what "God's word" is unless you speak aramaic? it's been translated half a dozen times and been corrected a bunch as well.
By getting an accurate translation. And actually, the Bible was never written in Aramaic. And as far as atheism being a cult, it is one simply by the fanatical behaviour of it's adherents.
If there are fanatical behaviors by atheists, it's because they are fighting for their rights to be left alone. Christians seem always ready to put crap on the ballot to prune away our rights. That won't stand and when it ends, so will the fanaticism. Therefore, it's not a cult...
Once again, you are accusing us of acting like you. Get a good hard look at yourself.
And once again, you are ignoring the point of my last post. I said that when Christians try to stifle our rights at the ballot box and elsewhere, this will not end. None or very few atheists care what you believe, as long as you stop trying to control our rights. That IS NOT proselytizing. It is protecting ourselves from the likes of you and yours. Learn to read...
08 Aug 2015, 2:25 pm
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