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Awesomelyglorious
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10 Apr 2007, 10:32 pm

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Only so if you know me.

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It works fine for me.
That doesn't make this a logical premise. If a premise isn't logically derived or appeal to a commonly accepted premise then why should others accept it as holding any validity? At the very least I appeal to the common ideal of classical liberalism.

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Nah. I just decided to take a different tack on the subject. The self-interest approach is looking like an interesting approach to politics. If we have a sense of aesthetics or compassion, we'd still be fulfilling our self-interest by satisfying these motives. It's more naturalistic.

By the way, I'll no longer be bothering to defend the approach that I brought up for land rights. I still think it's attractive, but I'm interested in exploring other mechanisms.

Oh, ok, the self-interest approach is how the world works. I often like to look at things from a somewhat consequentialist perspective to be honest, with some regard for utilitarian concerns. If we did then you are right, we would fulfill our self-interest by satisfying those motives. I think that it can be shown through our charitable donation patterns that although we have some care, we do not have an enormous amount though.

I really do not, however, I am really not that big of a proponent of property taxes as a method of public finance. They can reduce sprawl and perhaps a tax on land in order to reduce said sprawl might be desirable but as a method of financing a government they are undesirable due to their regressive nature. I am also typically not a big fan of eminent domain as mentioned. It may be desirable from a utilitarian stand point but not from a rights based standpoint in my mind and the difference between those 2 approaches must be emphasized.(although it is also argued that property taxes are in some cases more progressive, really though, there are also other distortionary measures to look at, I might prefer simply using more income based taxes to be certain on the burden of the tax and to be certain on the effects of the finance method)



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11 Apr 2007, 1:08 am

It seems we both suffer from the "last word" thing. This is most cumbersome. Aspie trait?



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11 Apr 2007, 1:11 am

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It seems we both suffer from the "last word" thing. This is most cumbersome. Aspie trait?

I would bet so. It is a burden. I think it is simply because we are human. I dunno, we could attempt to do a statistical survey of aspies to determine this though.



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11 Apr 2007, 1:58 am

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Griff wrote:
It seems we both suffer from the "last word" thing. This is most cumbersome. Aspie trait?

I would bet so. It is a burden. I think it is simply because we are human. I dunno, we could attempt to do a statistical survey of aspies to determine this though.
Sounds interesting. I was thinking that it would be more entertaining to go annoy Tim for a while, but now I'm curious. Are you thinking just doing a forum poll?



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11 Apr 2007, 9:44 am

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Sounds interesting. I was thinking that it would be more entertaining to go annoy Tim for a while, but now I'm curious. Are you thinking just doing a forum poll?

Yes, just doing a random forum poll on whether or not they must have the last word. We might have to do another poll on a primarily NT site as well. Then we do some statistical analysis........

bah, who am I kidding. I really don't give enough damns to do a statistical analysis.