What do you think about the terrorist attacks in Paris?

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15 Nov 2015, 7:36 pm

I check Yahoo News for news. What sickens me is that f*****g Kim Kardashian is #2 on 'Trending Now' and the Paris terrorist attacks are number 6. Is f*****g Kim Kardashian really more important than this? A ideological war is rampant, and Kim Kardashian is apparently more important.


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15 Nov 2015, 10:29 pm

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Problem can be solved with small 15 kliotons fission A-Bomb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boy

Just drop one near ISIS HQ somewhere on uninhabited area to avoid colaboral damage, they need to know that Europe can and will retaliate for their barbarianism.

One great man called Harry S. Truman, proved that this is very successful :mrgreen:


If that ever was a workable solution it should been done a long time ago when the Islamic state was a little state. Now a nuclear eradication plan would need to involve America nuking itself multiple times as I am sure they are setting up something 10 times bigger here than Paris.


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16 Nov 2015, 4:11 am

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Stopping all immigration to every country is a start.


Uh huh. And what's the next step of your master plan? Deporting everyone with a funny-sounding name? :roll:



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16 Nov 2015, 4:13 am

The plot is thickening
http://www.ibtimes.com/paris-attacks-ir ... ul-2185292

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Iraqi intelligence agents warned of an imminent attack by the Islamic State group just one day before the assaults on Paris that killed 129 people. Agents last week sent a dispatch to a U.S.-led coalition of countries, the Associated Press reported, and officials said they specifically warned France of the heightened terrorist threats.

In the dispatch, Iraqi intelligence said the Islamic State group's leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, ordered an attack on coalition countries fighting the group in Iraq and Syria. The coalition involves more than 60 nations, including members of the European Union and Arab League.

The Iraqi dispatch additionally warned of upcoming attacks on Iran and Russia "through bombings or assassinations or hostage taking in the coming days," the AP reported Sunday. Six senior Iraqi intelligence officials corroborated the information in the document to the AP.



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16 Nov 2015, 8:30 am

Rudin wrote:
I check Yahoo News for news. What sickens me is that f*****g Kim Kardashian is #2 on 'Trending Now' and the Paris terrorist attacks are number 6. Is f*****g Kim Kardashian really more important than this? A ideological war is rampant, and Kim Kardashian is apparently more important.


I don't even know why she's a star so why the hell is she more interesting than the terrorist attacks in Paris?

I got to know about this when it just happened. It was about 11:00 PM and 12:00 AM I think. I was watching a livestream and suddenly the chat became pretty hyper so I looked up for the news. I stayed up until 04:00 AM so I wouldn't miss any informations.

It's terrible, really. France is like a neighbour and I'm sure this was just the beginning of something more terrifying but I also like the courage the countries all over the world show. They know there's a great danger but they don't show their fear - they keep going.

I'm just disappointed by the people saying that all muslims are bad. It's not what it's like.


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16 Nov 2015, 10:52 am

I think the whole thing is horrible...and it pisses me off.

Also f**k ISIS, ISIL or whatever the f*** they want to call themselves, nothing but religious fanatic cowards. That aside I do not think the proper response is to hold every muslim responsible and encourage hate and rage at the lot of them. At the same time though it is important to recognize the dangers of religious extremism and theocracies.

I don't think Islam is the worst religion, but having theocracies where it is law to follow the religion, and people outside these theocracies that are trying to push their religion because it's 'the one true religion' is obviously a problem and creates perfect breeding grounds for that. I don't think it would be any better if Christianity had ended up dominating the mid-east and there where christian theocracies instead of islamic ones.

But I have no ideas of any solution, its just sh*t....obviously can't just let refugees flow through borders unchecked, but I can't advocate they just all be left for dead either as if they are all 'terrorists'. And what of the home-grown ones that have been born outside the middle east into another region who pick up on the extremism and become extreme themselves. And those particular ones are all over already with or without refugees that might have a few extremists in their midst.

I mean are these people getting any exposure to things outside of Islam....the normal thing for young people is questioning religion and learning things about stuff your parents might disapprove of, these young people are doing the opposite and going full blown devout religious extremist.


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16 Nov 2015, 11:05 am

SoMissunderstood wrote:
Last thing I'll say before I leave this thread...

If something like this happened during the 30's or 40's, we'd probably just drop a big nuke on them and say 'wham bam, thank you, ma'am...game over'.

...ahhh the gold old days...


How are you going to nuke a terrorist group with members all over the world? Nuke the whole world....clearly your an epitome of genius.


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16 Nov 2015, 11:22 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
I think the whole thing is horrible...and it pisses me off.

Also f**k ISIS, ISIL or whatever the f*** they want to call themselves, nothing but religious fanatic cowards. That aside I do not think the proper response is to hold every muslim responsible and encourage hate and rage at the lot of them. At the same time though it is important to recognize the dangers of religious extremism and theocracies.



Destabilizing the middle east is not in the interest of the muslims. And that's exactly what the attacks are going to be used as an excuse for. They are not that stupid. However, certain interests are counting on the fact that the west thinks that the muslim world is that stupid, so they can paint them in a bad light and have an excuse to destabilize the middle east further. Just look at the news about France going for a strike, they wasted no time!

Those who carry out the actual terror attacks are useful idiots. They might honestly believe it is in the muslim worlds interest. But muslim nations are not backing ISIS. That would be a stupid idea.

It is the enemies of the muslim world that are backing ISIS. That's what false flagging is all about. They need to do that when they have no actual excuse to make life miserable for people in the ME. It's the same old trite garbage they've been doing for the last 15 years.

The vast majority of muslims, save a few useful idiots, just want to be left alone in the ME. But the U.S just can't stop nosing around there. No wonder they are upset.



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16 Nov 2015, 11:25 am

If you listen to complete interviews with Bashar al-Assad and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and listen to what they are actually saying versus what the media claims they are saying, then it becomes obvious that they just want to be left alone.

Media cuts and pastes, takes things out of context and re-frames it to paint them in a negative light.



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16 Nov 2015, 11:33 am

Neotenous Nordic wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
I think the whole thing is horrible...and it pisses me off.

Also f**k ISIS, ISIL or whatever the f*** they want to call themselves, nothing but religious fanatic cowards. That aside I do not think the proper response is to hold every muslim responsible and encourage hate and rage at the lot of them. At the same time though it is important to recognize the dangers of religious extremism and theocracies.



Destabilizing the middle east is not in the interest of the muslims. And that's exactly what the attacks are going to be used as an excuse for. They are not that stupid. However, certain interests are counting on the fact that the west thinks that the muslim world is that stupid, so they can paint them in a bad light and have an excuse to destabilize the middle east further. Just look at the news about France going for a strike, they wasted no time!

Those who carry out the actual terror attacks are useful idiots. They might honestly believe it is in the muslim worlds interest. But muslim nations are not backing ISIS. That would be a stupid idea.

It is the enemies of the muslim world that are backing ISIS. That's what false flagging is all about. They need to do that when they have no actual excuse to make life miserable for people in the ME. It's the same old trite garbage they've been doing for the last 15 years.

The vast majority of muslims, save a few useful idiots, just want to be left alone in the ME. But the U.S just can't stop nosing around there. No wonder they are upset.


It seems it is the enemies of all the world that are backing ISIS...I know they are not helping the muslim world, and there aren't muslim nations backing them. However it almost seems they would like to create one world-wide Islam theocracy and impose their version of religious law on everyone, including other muslims that aren't extremists and would rather just be left in peace. That or they just want to destroy any and everything.

I don't think further destabilizing of the middle east is really going to solve anything, and I would agree the U.S has been part of the problem with trying to police the world and nosing around everywhere.


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16 Nov 2015, 11:39 am

A lot of Christians grew out of it because of scandals in the church, hypocrisy, judgmental hateful people who do no live up to their name. I'd say any smart person that was a Muslim would probably would be pretty turned off by the religion based on what people are doing in the name of it, during the inquisition or whatever you can think of as the worst abuses of Christianity you wouldn't find me clinging to the faith. Superstition should not be encouraged, Islam or any other organized religion is not real and shouldn't run counter to our values and rights as human beings.

We have to realize that these people did not evolve out of no where, they are the results of actions taken by the US and it's allies over the last 40+ years. ISIS is basically the chickens coming home to roost for us, it's our fault that we invaded Iraq and started this not-so-spontaneous wave of regime change in the middle east. Gaddafi and Assad were dictators but mostly benevolent ones who ensured the safety and security of their countries who without created this vacuum that is throttling us towards WWIII.

I don't know what the answer is at this point because it seems inevitable that war is coming and there will be ground troops in the Middle East. All I can hope for is that we ditch the Saudis and Turks with their obsession with Assad(which is likely our own as well since do they really act independently of the US?) and take up Putin's offer of a grand coalition based on WWII because we need the Russians, Iranians, and Assad in any scenario against ISIS. I think there should be a formal declaration of war against the self proclaimed Islamic State which would be null and void once Islamic State is destroyed and put into the ash bin of history, we can't be chasing these people across continents forever. We need overwhelming force to win now and come home, that's the only way you fight a war.

Immigration like I have said many times to me is all about integration and if integration is not possible then those people should stay in their home country go somewhere that believes more in their values, not here. Multiculturalism is a recipe for disaster, look at Europe who only has a tiny minority is handling it. The melting pot is not a bad thing, when you move to another country you should move there knowing that you are joining someone else's culture and you need to respect their values and their way of life, segregation is bad for everybody. I would at this point only take persecuted minorities from Syria, I think it's pretty disgusting all these fit young refugees and running to the west while we prepare to go to war for them. Cowards at best.

The Saudis and Turks are not our friends, ISIS does not consider Turkey an enemy but rather an ally with the amount of cooperation they have with their security services. They should not be apart of NATO or the EU, we should demand they close their border with Syria and halt all support of ISIS or we will recognize an independent Kurdish state. Maybe we should take the terrorist designation off the PKK, how are they a threat against us? Turkey can stop supporting ISIS and butt out of Syria or else we should start treating them the way they treat us. The Saudis are the real enemy, they have and continue to have more blood on their hands than Iran or Assad yet we don't say a peep about their human rights record, in fact they chair the Human Rights Council at the UN hahahahahahahahaha



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16 Nov 2015, 12:38 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
The plot is thickening
http://www.ibtimes.com/paris-attacks-ir ... ul-2185292

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Iraqi intelligence agents warned of an imminent attack by the Islamic State group just one day before the assaults on Paris that killed 129 people. Agents last week sent a dispatch to a U.S.-led coalition of countries, the Associated Press reported, and officials said they specifically warned France of the heightened terrorist threats.

In the dispatch, Iraqi intelligence said the Islamic State group's leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, ordered an attack on coalition countries fighting the group in Iraq and Syria. The coalition involves more than 60 nations, including members of the European Union and Arab League.

The Iraqi dispatch additionally warned of upcoming attacks on Iran and Russia "through bombings or assassinations or hostage taking in the coming days," the AP reported Sunday. Six senior Iraqi intelligence officials corroborated the information in the document to the AP.


I'm questioning the fact that German Police arrested a man at their border last week. He had 7 or 8 firearms, explosive and grenades hidden in the car and the satnav was programmed for an address in Paris. Unfortunately, it seems this information was not passed on to the French.



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16 Nov 2015, 4:24 pm

Non-whites living in Europe are interlopers, regardless of what religion they are. It's just that Muslims are the non-white group most likely to carry out the sorts of attacks we saw in Paris, and they don't need instructions from 'ISIL' or 'Al Qaeda' (or whatever other Middle-Eastern based network we're talking about this month) in order to do so. However, it's clearly more comforting for some people to imagine that everything's going to turn out fine if we just drop a few more bombs on some Middle-Eastern desert. Either that or sing John Lennon songs. Europeans with an ounce of brain however will start to focus their anger where it belongs: at the people who opened their borders, and at the people who created the perverted slave morality we now live under - many of whom are the same people who are leading the charge to destabilise the Middle East..



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16 Nov 2015, 9:45 pm

All of the effective rulers in the Mideast used the same methods. They killed anyone who objected.

It was not just people, it was whole villages and regions.

Now the west is being lied to. The State still steals from everyone, and uses force to rule by fear.

The lie is you get to vote and chose your oppressor.

Lies do not work in the east.

The problem, what works is also called Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes, Genocide.

So much for domestic politics. The next problem is the neighbors. The neighbors sent terrorists into Syria, Assad has killed 100,000, by also killing 100,000 drafted dumb young men, and about 50,000 civilians who were in the wrong place. Saddam killed millions in his war with Iran. They would rather get drafted and sent to die than object and have their whole family killed. Families who do not defend the country do not deserve to live there. Or to live at all.

East is East and West is West and the twain shall never meet.

To rule countries like Iraq, the government has to be the leading cause of death.



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19 Nov 2015, 2:29 am

I can't really make myself care about the paris attacks to be honest. I don't know how people can care about people they've never met and didn't know anything about.



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19 Nov 2015, 6:22 am

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East is East and West is West and the twain shall never meet.

To rule countries like Iraq, the government has to be the leading cause of death.



And some visionaries wonder what would happen if we met an extraterrestrial civilizations, if we could get along with them?
It's laughable how we get along with them if we are not able to do with a different kind of earthly civilization is how would we do with the civilization which is not only a cultural alien but also alien in other sense of that word :mrgreen: