Why is it bipolar can join military but aspies can't?

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05 Feb 2016, 4:50 pm

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I though you could buy beer on base if you were eighteen and enlisted?A boy I was dating was sent on a beer run and he returned with the goods.Maybe he just had someone older purchase it.It was hillarious,we had all pooled our change and sent him to get the cheapest beer.It was the generic stuff, a white can with the words BEER on it.

Things have changed since WW1. It's 21 to buy booze on base.

I was just a baby 'Zilla during WW1,you can't expect my memory to be perfect.lol
Looked it up,when J got the beer it was in the early eighties and you could drink under 21 when enlisted.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicel ... ingage.htm


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05 Feb 2016, 5:13 pm

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It was hillarious,we had all pooled our change and sent him to get the cheapest beer.It was the generic stuff, a white can with the words BEER on it.



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05 Feb 2016, 6:16 pm

/\Perfect timing,I was just watching House :D .I couldn't see the second one.


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05 Feb 2016, 6:53 pm

There was a second one?


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05 Feb 2016, 7:13 pm

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There was a second one?

I thought there was,there was a blank grey square with a puzzle piece that said " this format not supported."
I'm on a tablet so maybe that had something to do with it.


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05 Feb 2016, 7:19 pm

Yeah, that's probably it. I just had to make the "beer brand beer" reference.


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05 Feb 2016, 8:22 pm

...AIT is ?



ote="kraftiekortie"]I know he went through Basic, then went to AIT. I'm not sure how long he was in the "full" army. I know he's in the Reserves now. He's close to 40.[/quote]



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05 Feb 2016, 8:33 pm

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06 Feb 2016, 9:22 am

I was originally diagnoses with Aspergers while in the military largely because I couldn't handle the social skills necessary for being an NCO.

Anyone who thinks they don't need social instincts to be in the armed forces is kidding themselves.

Just sayin'.


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06 Feb 2016, 9:54 am

XFG, whether or not I needed social skills is a moot point - I served, was promoted, and earned an honorable discharge, all without knowing that I had AS. You are right, though. The higher enlisted grades do require more social skills. So, except for the social politics, the environment was perfect for me.


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06 Feb 2016, 12:36 pm

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XFG, whether or not I needed social skills is a moot point - I served, was promoted, and earned an honorable discharge, all without knowing that I had AS. You are right, though. The higher enlisted grades do require more social skills. So, except for the social politics, the environment was perfect for me.


Additionally, you were Navy. I was Air Force.

The AF is the "touchy-feely" branch of the armed services. We were expected to be a lot more empathetic and social than our sister services. I've always figured the Navy was more hardcore on account of being much older.


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06 Feb 2016, 12:50 pm

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XFG, whether or not I needed social skills is a moot point - I served, was promoted, and earned an honorable discharge, all without knowing that I had AS. You are right, though. The higher enlisted grades do require more social skills. So, except for the social politics, the environment was perfect for me.
Additionally, you were Navy. I was Air Force. The AF is the "touchy-feely" branch of the armed services. We were expected to be a lot more empathetic and social than our sister services. I've always figured the Navy was more hardcore on account of being much older.
The Navy gets more political the higher in rank you go - advancement was still merit-based; but a lot of it also seemed in involve knowing whose brass to kiss and when to kiss it. There was one CPO who seemed to have it in for me because I'd made E6 in six years, and it had taken him twelve. He even told me that he would not sign off on my quals if it meant that I made Chief in less time than he had.

I imagine that the Army, Marines, and Coast Guard have similar issues.


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06 Feb 2016, 3:31 pm

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The Navy gets more political the higher in rank you go - advancement was still merit-based; but a lot of it also seemed in involve knowing whose brass to kiss and when to kiss it. There was one CPO who seemed to have it in for me because I'd made E6 in six years, and it had taken him twelve. He even told me that he would not sign off on my quals if it meant that I made Chief in less time than he had.

I imagine that the Army, Marines, and Coast Guard have similar issues.


In my field you could get to PO2 just by being a good technician; I made it in 3 years. An E-6 needed to be able to socialize, though. If I'd stayed in, it's questionable whether I would have made it to PO1 before the time limit kicked me out.


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06 Feb 2016, 6:50 pm

Something that occurred to me - firefighter. There's order and bravery and risk and camaraderie, only you don't have to go and kill people you've never met just because a politician told you to. Would you be interested in that, and would Aspergers be a reason they'd turn you down?


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06 Feb 2016, 7:23 pm

I gotta give some respect to people who try their best to make it in the military, and still wash out through no fault of their own.

It's those people who never try, especially those who are able, and who then criticize the military at every turn that I have diminished respect for.


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06 Feb 2016, 8:06 pm

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I gotta give some respect to people who try their best to make it in the military, and still wash out through no fault of their own.

It's those people who never try, especially those who are able, and who then criticize the military at every turn that I have diminished respect for.


Makes me think of this thread where people who never served telling people what it's like to be in the military.

http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=276099


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