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10 Feb 2013, 2:36 am

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Why does it even matter,if ya gotta go ya gotta go.
If you have IBS you are going in the first avaiable one,male or female.


I have seen this happen before with what I think was a woman or a fully passable trans.. the words I think were one guy saying "uhh, wrong room don't ya think" and she replied, "don't care, get the bleep outa my way.. emergency" *slams stall door* and by the sound of it you knew it was bad and me and the guy looked at each other like.. wow wtf.. lets get out of here before we die expression, lol and we both rushed out. O.o



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15 Apr 2013, 3:49 pm

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The one that identifies with the Gender they were born as. If they were born as a male, use the male bathroom.


What about people who are born intersexed? Somewhere between 1% and 1.7% of live births involve some degree of sexual ambiguity. Approximately 1 in 1,000 merit neonatal medical attention.

More dramatically, 18 in 100,000 live births involve chromosomal sex that is inconsistent with phenotypical sex, or morphology that cannot be classified as either male or female. In New Zealand, there are over 400,000 people who were born with some form of gender ambiguity. And there are almost 1,000 people who cannot be anatomically classified as one sex or the other.

So what about them?


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15 Apr 2013, 3:58 pm

visagrunt wrote:
TrainofLove wrote:
The one that identifies with the Gender they were born as. If they were born as a male, use the male bathroom.


What about people who are born intersexed? Somewhere between 1% and 1.7% of live births involve some degree of sexual ambiguity. Approximately 1 in 1,000 merit neonatal medical attention.

More dramatically, 18 in 100,000 live births involve chromosomal sex that is inconsistent with phenotypical sex, or morphology that cannot be classified as either male or female. In New Zealand, there are over 400,000 people who were born with some form of gender ambiguity. And there are almost 1,000 people who cannot be anatomically classified as one sex or the other.

So what about them?


As for me, I dislike public restrooms... if I absolutely HAVE to go and there are no single-person restrooms, I use the women's room. I feel safer there. I'm always very happy when businesses have family restrooms. That is the best scenario for me personally.



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15 Apr 2013, 3:58 pm

Those who can only pee sitting down should use the women's loo



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15 Apr 2013, 4:13 pm

I wonder what caused the resurrection of this thread after a 2 month hiatus... :roll:



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15 Apr 2013, 4:17 pm

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I wonder what caused the resurrection of this thread after a 2 month hiatus... :roll:


Don't worry, visagrunt has decided to have a grudge against me because he disagree's with my views. Childish I think. It's easier to just ignore him.


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15 Apr 2013, 4:21 pm

They use either one. Some with penises use the women restroom. If they look female, they can get away with it. Some without a penis use the men's restroom because they feel male on the inside and look male.


I did use the mens restroom once to wash my hands because they were dirty and the Womens restroom was closed. There was no one in the bathroom so I used it. Another time I did walk in the mens bathroom once at the Outback Steakhouse because I got confused because they used different terms for men and women on the doors so I went in the wrong one and then I was wondering why a man kept walking in the restroom and back out again. Then I noticed the urinal and I felt so embarrassed. But the man was friendly about it and told me it was okay and he waited until i was out of there for him to go. I only went in there to wash my hands also so I didn't notice the urinal.


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15 Apr 2013, 5:36 pm

TrainofLove wrote:
Don't worry, visagrunt has decided to have a grudge against me because he disagree's with my views. Childish I think. It's easier to just ignore him.


I have no grudge. That was a legitimate question.

What do people who have no determinable sex do? Do you have an answer for that?


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16 Apr 2013, 5:25 am

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Just out of curiosity, this one is about transgendered people. When they'r in public, which bathroom do they go to? Theyr not fully male, and their not fully female. Also, how do they determine their sexual orientation? I'm somewhat interested in figuring out how they adopt in society.
Do note that I'm not prejudiced against transgendered people. Especially those born as transgendered, because honestly I dunno if I could live with such a thing if it were me (and I mean this to no offense to anyone who might have been born this way). I find this to be highly enigmatic though.

how about the bathroom that matches their chromosomes as a safeguard against predators claiming to be transgender? Or how about changing bathrooms from "men" and "women" to "XY" and "XX", with an exception for extremely rare XY females who have a medical condition where the sex chromosomes are reversed (but are naturally unresponsive to testosterone without resorting to hormone treatments).

If that's still not good enough, that's a matter between a transgender individual and a psychiatrist.


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16 Apr 2013, 5:41 am

Like I think I posted earlier in the topic they need to use the restroom of the gender they present as.

Do you really want someone in a dress and make-up and looking like a woman going in the men's room or someone with no breasts and a beard going in the ladies room? I've seen transgendered people where it's difficult or impossible to tell that they weren't born as that gender and going in the bathroom of the gender they were born as would just confuse and anger people.

I've had people think I was a man a few times when I was younger even though I looked feminine (maybe they thought I was trans or a drag queen?) and my mother sometimes gets called sir but we never got hassled about using the ladies room. I've heard of people getting hassled for using the bathroom of the gender they were born as though because they weren't feminine or masculine enough to satisfy people.



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16 Apr 2013, 6:30 am

I would think the answer is pretty easy.

If they have a dick and want to piss/pee standing up then use a male toilet/bathroom/restroom/loo.

Otherwise it does not matter as stalls have doors and no one there has to know what sort of plumbing they have.

Now it they are in France and it is a unisex toilet, there is no choice.

It they are at a private home, again there is usually no choice as the toilets are unisex.

So if there is a choice, go where you will be more comfortable.



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16 Apr 2013, 9:09 am

...I dont know!! It kind of reminds me of when mr garrison uses the womens restroom!


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16 Apr 2013, 10:10 am

In the military, I've dealt with "unisex bathrooms" and it was no big deal.

Speaking for myself, I use the whatever bathroom is safest depending on the circumstances.

I usually use the ladies loo, but that isn't always the best idea, so I duck into the men's.


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16 Apr 2013, 1:40 pm

John_Browning wrote:
how about the bathroom that matches their chromosomes as a safeguard against predators claiming to be transgender? Or how about changing bathrooms from "men" and "women" to "XY" and "XX", with an exception for extremely rare XY females who have a medical condition where the sex chromosomes are reversed (but are naturally unresponsive to testosterone without resorting to hormone treatments).

If that's still not good enough, that's a matter between a transgender individual and a psychiatrist.


What do you do if you're a 46-XX male (they exist along with the 46-XY females)? How about a 46-XY male with gonadal agenesis?

The problem with easy answers is that they apply only to 99.9% of people, and for whom the question presents no difficulty. But that 0.1% need to use the toilet, too.


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17 Apr 2013, 10:01 pm

I think of a better question: which bathroom do transgender people are allowed to use? or what are the consequences of a transgender person to choose X bathroom? If they get in trouble or something happens for using whatever bathroom they choose, that is their choice and the consequence that comes with it.



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17 Apr 2013, 11:35 pm

visagrunt wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
how about the bathroom that matches their chromosomes as a safeguard against predators claiming to be transgender? Or how about changing bathrooms from "men" and "women" to "XY" and "XX", with an exception for extremely rare XY females who have a medical condition where the sex chromosomes are reversed (but are naturally unresponsive to testosterone without resorting to hormone treatments).

If that's still not good enough, that's a matter between a transgender individual and a psychiatrist.


What do you do if you're a 46-XX male (they exist along with the 46-XY females)? How about a 46-XY male with gonadal agenesis?

The problem with easy answers is that they apply only to 99.9% of people, and for whom the question presents no difficulty. But that 0.1% need to use the toilet, too.

Use the tests that have been used by various sporting organizations in the rare instance it is brought up to them.


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