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23 Feb 2016, 7:15 pm

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Because Hillary is even worse.


:roll: That is what Bernie Sanders is for, we don't need a trump.


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23 Feb 2016, 7:26 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
Yigeren wrote:
Because Hillary is even worse.


:roll: That is what Bernie Sanders is for, we don't need a trump.


Bernie Sanders literally can't win, it is impossible. It would take the entire Democratic establishment to go against Hillary when they are universally behind her and have already given her a quarter of the delegates she needs to clinch the nomination. The race is very likely to be over after Super Tuesday, Bernie could stay in the collect delegates and leverage the party platform and prime speaking spot at the convention but he will not be the Democratic nominee even if he could beat Hillary at the ballotbox. If Hillary for some reason has to drop out then the nomination still isn't going to Bernie, Joe Biden is the back up plan and Michael Bloomberg is lurking in the shadows too. The whole process is rigged, rigged even more than the RNC rigged it when they buried Ron Paul's candidacy.

It is more than likely the choice this November will be Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton, maybe with Michael Bloomberg as a third party candidate. I wouldn't put it past the establishment Republicans to run a candidate of their own to try to stop any one candidate from reaching 270, then the Paul Ryan led House gets to decide who becomes president.

It is pretty funny, the GOP in their attempt to kill off their grassroots candidates like Ron Paul have basically ensured Trump the nomination with their rule changes, they made the early states much more important and bound more of the delegates to the winning candidate on the first ballot.



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23 Feb 2016, 7:32 pm

I've never seen Trump's worth estimated above $5 billion, Jacoby. Where did you come up with $10 billion?


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23 Feb 2016, 7:39 pm

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I've never seen Trump's worth estimated above $5 billion, Jacoby. Where did you come up with $10 billion?

from the horse's mouth

Trump puts a lot of value in his brand which is criminally undervalued by places like Forbes who put it at a mere $125 million when it is probably closer to the $3 billion that Trump claims, the proof is in the pudding considering Trump is the front runner for the presidency thanks to it. A lot of Trump's business is licensing and the use of his name and image, he created his brand from the ground up and has become someone that transcends politics and popular culture. Like I said, the Trump Organization has a 50% profit margin and Trump made $650 million last year which speaks for itself.



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23 Feb 2016, 7:40 pm

No matter how much the man is worth, even if he's worth $100 Billion, he's still not suitable for the Presidency.



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23 Feb 2016, 7:46 pm

but he is less evil than cruz the ooze.



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23 Feb 2016, 7:55 pm

Ah, OK. In other words, no credible source.


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23 Feb 2016, 8:23 pm

Even if he is the greatest businessman ever that doesn't mean he would be a good president. Ben Carson was a genius when it came to neurosurgery, but that doesn't mean he would be a good president either. Donald Trump doesn't have a good knowledge of any of the issues. If you watch any of the debates you would know that.



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23 Feb 2016, 8:36 pm

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Even if he is the greatest businessman ever that doesn't mean he would be a good president. Ben Carson was a genius when it came to neurosurgery, but that doesn't mean he would be a good president either. Donald Trump doesn't have a good knowledge of any of the issues. If you watch any of the debates you would know that.


Yet he's the only one that is semi-sane when it comes to foreign policy, everyone else wants to restart the Cold War with Russia and want to bog us down in another middle eastern war. They don't think Obama has gone far enough, these psychopaths want blood. It's nonsense that he doesn't have knowledge of the issues, he has spoken more in depth than probably any other candidate. Airhead Rubio hasn't said anything of substance his entire time in the US Senate.



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23 Feb 2016, 10:24 pm

Reasons to vote for Trump? That's easy - when there's a systemic problem, in order for positive change to occur, the majority of people have to uniformly agree that there's indeed such a problem and then change for the better will/must occur.

Once Trump becomes president (and he will) and brings down the U.S. to a never before seen low-point, then no one will deny that changes have to be made to the U.S. political system to ensure nobody like him can ever hold any kind of office in government.

Basically, Trump's going to drive the U.S. into a head-on-collision with fundamental change and not in a good way - It's time for all of you to put your seat belts and helmets on! GL 8O


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23 Feb 2016, 11:02 pm

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Reasons to vote for Trump? That's easy - when there's a systemic problem, in order for positive change to occur, the majority of people have to uniformly agree that there's indeed such a problem and then change for the better will/must occur. Once Trump becomes president (and he will) and brings down the U.S. to a never before seen low-point, then no one will deny that changes have to be made to the U.S. political system to ensure nobody like him can ever hold any kind of office in government. Basically, Trump's going to drive the U.S. into a head-on-collision with fundamental change and not in a good way - It's time for all of you to put your seat belts and helmets on! GL 8O

ok, when we hit our nadir, which direction do you think we'll go from there- hard right [tyrannical megalomaniac corporatist like Mussolini] or hard left [somebody like Lenin]? or somebody like Mustapha Mond?



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23 Feb 2016, 11:14 pm

Jacoby wrote:
wowiexist wrote:
Even if he is the greatest businessman ever that doesn't mean he would be a good president. Ben Carson was a genius when it came to neurosurgery, but that doesn't mean he would be a good president either. Donald Trump doesn't have a good knowledge of any of the issues. If you watch any of the debates you would know that.


Yet he's the only one that is semi-sane when it comes to foreign policy, everyone else wants to restart the Cold War with Russia and want to bog us down in another middle eastern war. They don't think Obama has gone far enough, these psychopaths want blood. It's nonsense that he doesn't have knowledge of the issues, he has spoken more in depth than probably any other candidate. Airhead Rubio hasn't said anything of substance his entire time in the US Senate.
semi-sane? are you trying to be funny? the guy wants to build a wall across the mexican border



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23 Feb 2016, 11:23 pm

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Jacoby wrote:
wowiexist wrote:
Even if he is the greatest businessman ever that doesn't mean he would be a good president. Ben Carson was a genius when it came to neurosurgery, but that doesn't mean he would be a good president either. Donald Trump doesn't have a good knowledge of any of the issues. If you watch any of the debates you would know that.


Yet he's the only one that is semi-sane when it comes to foreign policy, everyone else wants to restart the Cold War with Russia and want to bog us down in another middle eastern war. They don't think Obama has gone far enough, these psychopaths want blood. It's nonsense that he doesn't have knowledge of the issues, he has spoken more in depth than probably any other candidate. Airhead Rubio hasn't said anything of substance his entire time in the US Senate.
semi-sane? are you trying to be funny? the guy wants to build a wall across the mexican border


Building the wall isn't even the craziest thing he wants to do. He wants to force Mexico to pay us for the wall, he wants to have a mass deportation of 11 million people, he wants to ban Muslims, he wants to make Bill Gates shut down the internet, and I am sure there are more things. Plus I think he does want to go to war in the Middle East since when he was talking about ISIS he said "we are going to bomb the s**t out of them" on live tv.



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23 Feb 2016, 11:35 pm

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Jacoby wrote:
wowiexist wrote:
Even if he is the greatest businessman ever that doesn't mean he would be a good president. Ben Carson was a genius when it came to neurosurgery, but that doesn't mean he would be a good president either. Donald Trump doesn't have a good knowledge of any of the issues. If you watch any of the debates you would know that.


Yet he's the only one that is semi-sane when it comes to foreign policy, everyone else wants to restart the Cold War with Russia and want to bog us down in another middle eastern war. They don't think Obama has gone far enough, these psychopaths want blood. It's nonsense that he doesn't have knowledge of the issues, he has spoken more in depth than probably any other candidate. Airhead Rubio hasn't said anything of substance his entire time in the US Senate.
semi-sane? are you trying to be funny? the guy wants to build a wall across the mexican border


Versus what? Opening a superhighway for our country to expedite invasion of our country and to once for all destroy our QOL brought down to that of the third world? You don't have a viable candidate, Trump is the best candidate running that can win. The American Dream is dead and Trump is the only candidate that is offering solutions, PC garbage is suffocating this country and no one else has anything remotely resembling an pro-America immigration policy. The CoC and La Raza might want hordes of millions of illegal immigrants as well as their legal slaves to undercut the American worker.

A wall is a lot more realistic than this idea of the forever war or that we can give away everything for free, Bernie Sanders understands how to run this country about as well as Matthew Lesko probably less and he won't be able to do anything he'd want to do. All besides the point, the choice is Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton and that is an easy decision and if you think Hillary is going to win that contest I think you should probably start exploring a nice place to live in Canada. We spent 2 trillion dollars in Iraq, we have a 54 billion dollar trade deficit with Mexico so we can make them pay for it and their citizens that they have intentionally sent across our border pretty easily. It is time to finally confront Mexico and its corrupt politicians, these people have been taking advantage of us for years while they run their country into the ground.

Again, Trump is the only one that wants peace with Russia and to confront our shared enemies together instead of literally threatening to start WWIII. These idiots all want to keep giving aid to terrorists and to allow the terrorist state of Saudi Arabia to control our foreign policy, I don't want war with Iran or Assad or any of these people they are trying to say are so bad. Turkey and Saudi Arabia support ISIS and they're supposedly our allies? No, they are the true enemies of the United States.



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23 Feb 2016, 11:36 pm

wowiexist wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
wowiexist wrote:
Even if he is the greatest businessman ever that doesn't mean he would be a good president. Ben Carson was a genius when it came to neurosurgery, but that doesn't mean he would be a good president either. Donald Trump doesn't have a good knowledge of any of the issues. If you watch any of the debates you would know that.


Yet he's the only one that is semi-sane when it comes to foreign policy, everyone else wants to restart the Cold War with Russia and want to bog us down in another middle eastern war. They don't think Obama has gone far enough, these psychopaths want blood. It's nonsense that he doesn't have knowledge of the issues, he has spoken more in depth than probably any other candidate. Airhead Rubio hasn't said anything of substance his entire time in the US Senate.
semi-sane? are you trying to be funny? the guy wants to build a wall across the mexican border


Building the wall isn't even the craziest thing he wants to do. He wants to force Mexico to pay us for the wall, he wants to have a mass deportation of 11 million people, he wants to ban Muslims, he wants to make Bill Gates shut down the internet, and I am sure there are more things. Plus I think he does want to go to war in the Middle East since when he was talking about ISIS he said "we are going to bomb the s**t out of them" on live tv.


all lies and distortions of his actual positions

except the part about Mexico paying for the wall, they are.

who is the candidate you are supporting?



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24 Feb 2016, 12:01 am

how does one get mexico to build our wall for us?