All costs of child rearing should be borne by men.

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Draconian laws base on generalist and populist ideas tend to work very poorly in practice.

Mostly these idea are based on misconceptions.

UK has had massive decline in teenage pregnancies
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1219036 ... agers.html

http://visual.ons.gov.uk/teenage-pregna ... s-reality/

It is a similar picture elsewhere.

I hasn't been abstinence education, and old fashioned ideas that has helped achieve that.

Forcing someone to pay for child rearing who doesn't have the money creates even more problems. Some of these men will commit thefts before they ever admit that they don't have adequate money to pay (even for half). Trust me it happens. You force a man who can't afford it to pay 100% then that man is going to be stealing money from your mail.

You keep referring to deadbeat dads. But I know men who can't afford to pay 50% let alone 100% who are trying their hardest. Unfortunate but true.

they already do not have to. your premise is faulty.

This thread and the one about the buggering priests helped me understand why so many think autistic people have no empathy

There are men who have been forced by the courts to pay child support for children that were not theirs, and simply because the woman swore under oath that the child was his. Paternity fraud happens.

http://www.paternityfraud.com

http://paternityfraud2.com

http://www.mensdefense.org/STM_Book/PaternityFraud.htm

All costs of child rearing should be borne by men.

At one time, inheritance was strictly to the male heirs. Some women ended up owning some of the wealth of course but wealth was basically in the hands of men.

Men decided just how much wealth was to go to their sons. Consideration of women was secondary.

Consider.
Women, when stressed by financial considerations do not produce the best children. The more stress a woman has when pregnant and after while rearing the child, the less of a child and adult she will have produced. This is not good for society.

To improve society as a whole, now that half of the children grow up in poverty and lack of opportunity, I think men must step up and take more of the burden. Parental love demands that we change our ways.

Women are clearly failing to do what is required, in terms of family and quality of offspring, --- thanks to the poor quality of men and how we are financing birth, --- and I think that men of better quality must step up and shift the financial burden away from women. This would produce unstressed births and better human beings. I see it as a man’s social duty.

It would also be a rite of passage for young men who are producing all of the bastard children that we see everywhere and who are stuck in a financial doldrums that is holding us all back as a wealthy society.

Women presently hold most of the financial burden for child rearing and this is detrimental to all of society. Should we as a society do the right thing and un-stress the births in our country and thus produce better people?

We keep talking about women’s reproductive rights. I think we should be talking about men’s duty in terms of reproductive rights and responsibility. Our children deserve this.

We men have shirked their duty to society by allowing the production of less than the best possible births. We are shirking our duty to our children if we do not bear the financial burden of the best possible births/rearing. I think that if things are to improve, men will have to do the right thing and foot the bills.

Regards
DL

Let the dead bury the dead. DNA testing can now remove that fraud. Welcome to 2016.

Do all that and vasectomies will become a growth industy.

There are judges who won't allow DNA testing unless the man pays for it, thus defying the maxim that the "burden of proof lies on the claimant". The woman should pay for the DNA testing to prove her claim, instead of the man paying for the testing to prove his innocence. Lack of evidence in paternity cases favors women, just like it does in divorce court. Welcome to the 1950s.

No man should ever be forced to pay for a child that is not his; nor should he have to pay to prove that the child is not his. Lack of evidence should favor the defendant in all cases. Paternity fraud should be a felony, just like any other crime.

All costs of child rearing should be borne by men.

At one time, inheritance was strictly to the male heirs. Some women ended up owning some of the wealth of course but wealth was basically in the hands of men.

Men decided just how much wealth was to go to their sons. Consideration of women was secondary.

Consider.
Women, when stressed by financial considerations do not produce the best children. The more stress a woman has when pregnant and after while rearing the child, the less of a child and adult she will have produced. This is not good for society.

To improve society as a whole, now that half of the children grow up in poverty and lack of opportunity, I think men must step up and take more of the burden. Parental love demands that we change our ways.

Women are clearly failing to do what is required, in terms of family and quality of offspring, --- thanks to the poor quality of men and how we are financing birth, --- and I think that men of better quality must step up and shift the financial burden away from women. This would produce unstressed births and better human beings. I see it as a man’s social duty.

It would also be a rite of passage for young men who are producing all of the bastard children that we see everywhere and who are stuck in a financial doldrums that is holding us all back as a wealthy society.

Women presently hold most of the financial burden for child rearing and this is detrimental to all of society. Should we as a society do the right thing and un-stress the births in our country and thus produce better people?

We keep talking about women’s reproductive rights. I think we should be talking about men’s duty in terms of reproductive rights and responsibility. Our children deserve this.

We men have shirked their duty to society by allowing the production of less than the best possible births. We are shirking our duty to our children if we do not bear the financial burden of the best possible births/rearing. I think that if things are to improve, men will have to do the right thing and foot the bills.

Regards
DL

Obviously, you're not only sexist but outdated. Equal rights means equally paying the bills. Furthermore, according to the latest USDL statistics, women are beginning to eclipse men in terms of income. Lastly, more and more men are getting "clipped" for this very reason. This is why reproduction is seeing a downward trend. I always advise my male clients to get a V-Job before messing around - that way if you discover the woman you're messing with really is a swine hunt, you can dump her without complications.

Reproduction is not an equal sharing of the work involved.

How much should a man pay a woman for the 9 months of effort as compared to his 3 seconds of pleasure?

Regards
DL

NOTHING.

Because women are not owed anything by society any more so than men are. Deadbeat dads are scum because children need both parents. And more women than you think enjoy pregnancy even though it isn't all fun and games. Because women have the right to terminate it at will in all 50 states and can take responsibility for birth control by insisting that the man use a condom.

You're a woman with a sense of entitlement that our modern society increasingly does not recognize. Get over it.

I am a man who thinks that deadbeat dads should step up to their duty.

Strange that you would think that society does not owe women for replacing our dying population which keeps people employed.

In some states and provinces, women are given grants from governments to help defer costs.

And more women than you think do not enjoy pregnancy or think it fun.

Regards
DL