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04 Mar 2016, 9:12 pm

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Am I correct to believe that a person who believes in equality and diversity but respects others' differing beliefs is not an SJW?


Yes, lack of respect for differing beliefs is a defining trait of the SJW. If you can agree to disagree or see where someone who disagrees with you is coming from, you're not an SJW. On a related note, being anti-SJW does not mean being anti social justice, it just means being in favor of intellectual tolerance, charity, and critical thinking.


I'm not shocked.

I just don't believe idiots screaming on social media are worthy of my attention.


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04 Mar 2016, 9:23 pm

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Shameful generalisation there, Dox, me old mucker. Us downtrodden old folks are doing our fair share to combat this authoritarian s**tshow.


Guilty, but in my defense, I'm continually shocked at how many people seem completely unaware of the turn that modern lefty activism has taken lately, and I have to say, it usually breaks down along generational lines. My 40ish coworkers were absolutely appalled, for example, when I showed them some clips from the Yale protests last year, and were incredulous when I explained that this is a common style of activism among young people these days, while our teenage dishwashers knew exactly what I was talking about, and they're not even political.


It's certainly the case that age is a factor, broadly speaking. I suspect this is mostly due to the platforms being used by the SJWs. I think It'd be accurate to state that only a minority of those 40+ are regular visitors to modern online media, let alone regular attendees of college campuses.

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I get a similar experience with feminists past their mid 30s, like they think these people are strawmen dreamed up to discredit their movement, when unfortunately they're all too real and all too common.


Message to such feminists: Either you approve of this and you're defending it, or you disapprove and you will, at the very least, get out of the bloody way.

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Yes, lack of respect for differing beliefs is a defining trait of the SJW. If you can agree to disagree or see where someone who disagrees with you is coming from, you're not an SJW. On a related note, being anti-SJW does not mean being anti social justice, it just means being in favor of intellectual tolerance, charity, and critical thinking.


This. That applies to being anti-other labels too btw.

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I'm not shocked.

I just don't believe idiots screaming on social media are worthy of my attention.


That's rather the problem. What you're dismissing as idiots screaming on social media has been weaseling its way into positions of variable power for decades. Like most people, you probably won't notice it unless they have you in their sights.



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04 Mar 2016, 11:20 pm

Yeah,respecting others right to disagree means you are not a warrior ;)



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05 Mar 2016, 12:21 am

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It's certainly the case that age is a factor, broadly speaking. I suspect this is mostly due to the platforms being used by the SJWs. I think It'd be accurate to state that only a minority of those 40+ are regular visitors to modern online media, let alone regular attendees of college campuses.
probably due to the tribal nature of online social networks like tumblr and the unfortunate echochamber effect that occurs there. that's setting aside the people who would find it amusing to egg these people on(trolls, neonazis, etc).



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05 Mar 2016, 7:57 pm

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My 40ish coworkers were absolutely appalled, for example, when I showed them some clips from the Yale protests last year, and were incredulous when I explained that this is a common style of activism among young people these days, while our teenage dishwashers knew exactly what I was talking about, and they're not even political.


This?


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06 Mar 2016, 6:08 am

justkillingtime wrote:
Am I correct to believe that a person who believes in equality and diversity but respects others' differing beliefs is not an SJW?


I'd say so.


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09 Mar 2016, 3:47 pm

Dox47 wrote:
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Am I correct to believe that a person who believes in equality and diversity but respects others' differing beliefs is not an SJW?


Yes, lack of respect for differing beliefs is a defining trait of the SJW. If you can agree to disagree or see where someone who disagrees with you is coming from, you're not an SJW. On a related note, being anti-SJW does not mean being anti social justice, it just means being in favor of intellectual tolerance, charity, and critical thinking.

If you believe in inequality, I have no respect for your beliefs. And I don't believe in tolerance. Tolerance means ignoring another person's opinions, it's a kind of intellectual segregation. I think it's better to confront these differences and have a dialogue about them.



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09 Mar 2016, 4:34 pm

Discovering SJW's is not much different from finding vampires, show them a picture of Trump smiling, tell them this is Donald Trump (because they likely know nothing of his appearance) and he is going to help Americans. If they begin to scream, hiss, or spit you have found an indoctrinated SJW.



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09 Mar 2016, 4:47 pm

AspE wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
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Am I correct to believe that a person who believes in equality and diversity but respects others' differing beliefs is not an SJW?


Yes, lack of respect for differing beliefs is a defining trait of the SJW. If you can agree to disagree or see where someone who disagrees with you is coming from, you're not an SJW. On a related note, being anti-SJW does not mean being anti social justice, it just means being in favor of intellectual tolerance, charity, and critical thinking.

If you believe in inequality, I have no respect for your beliefs. And I don't believe in tolerance. Tolerance means ignoring another person's opinions, it's a kind of intellectual segregation. I think it's better to confront these differences and have a dialogue about them.

It's more about respecting the right of others to have differing beliefs than respect their actual beliefs.

And if we're talking about someone who really did believe in real inequality, the vast majority of people would be against it.



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09 Mar 2016, 5:11 pm

AspE wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
justkillingtime wrote:
Am I correct to believe that a person who believes in equality and diversity but respects others' differing beliefs is not an SJW?


Yes, lack of respect for differing beliefs is a defining trait of the SJW. If you can agree to disagree or see where someone who disagrees with you is coming from, you're not an SJW. On a related note, being anti-SJW does not mean being anti social justice, it just means being in favor of intellectual tolerance, charity, and critical thinking.

If you believe in inequality, I have no respect for your beliefs. And I don't believe in tolerance. Tolerance means ignoring another person's opinions, it's a kind of intellectual segregation. I think it's better to confront these differences and have a dialogue about them.


It is impossible to confront the opinion of every person you are going to come in contact with, read about, or see that you disagree with, especially for a person with bad multitaking abilities like myself. Did I offend myself by saying bad multitasking abilities? Should I have said multitaskingly challenged?


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09 Mar 2016, 5:20 pm

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Discovering SJW's is not much different from finding vampires, show them a picture of Trump smiling, tell them this is Donald Trump (because they likely know nothing of his appearance) and he is going to help Americans. If they begin to scream, hiss, or spit you have found an indoctrinated SJW.

Because of course being afraid that the next US president may be someone that is stupid, arrogant, bring no intelligent arguments, hateful of those who are different to the point of hate speech, wanting to bring down the best parts of his country constitution and denying science while thinking himself as smarter that nearly all scientists while clearly he's not; clearly being afraid of that mean indoctrination, right? I don't get the appeal for someone as arrogant and stupid as Trump.



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09 Mar 2016, 5:20 pm

Dox47 wrote:
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Shameful generalisation there, Dox, me old mucker. Us downtrodden old folks are doing our fair share to combat this authoritarian s**tshow.


Guilty, but in my defense, I'm continually shocked at how many people seem completely unaware of the turn that modern lefty activism has taken lately, and I have to say, it usually breaks down along generational lines. My 40ish coworkers were absolutely appalled, for example, when I showed them some clips from the Yale protests last year, and were incredulous when I explained that this is a common style of activism among young people these days, while our teenage dishwashers knew exactly what I was talking about, and they're not even political.

I get a similar experience with feminists past their mid 30s, like they think these people are strawmen dreamed up to discredit their movement, when unfortunately they're all too real and all too common.


Me and my politically astute also 50 something brother were ranting against the bullying of Donald Trump. I said the social justice worriers were just as bad. He had never heard of the term.


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09 Mar 2016, 8:33 pm

SJWs are a joke, I dont give a s**t about them, they are bullies to be honest and want you to be on your knees crying, its easier to simply ignore their fake victimhood and not fall for their shaming and ridicule, all they want to do is tear you down and make you cry, then beat you down more, that is what they are looking for with their tactics.


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09 Mar 2016, 9:49 pm

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I think it's better to confront these differences and have a dialogue about them.


That's all well and good, it's when "have a dialogue" means "I'm going to attempt to publicly shame you, call down a screaming mob upon you and/or try to convince authority figures you should be censured" that I begin to have a problem.


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09 Mar 2016, 9:58 pm

We have trouble with the socialist looney leftie types here they side with islam and want to push their socialist agender onto Toddlers in pre school then if people objected to it they're called "Homophobes"or Islamaphobes" its their way of shutting down debates by name calling.



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10 Mar 2016, 1:04 am

Aprilviolets wrote:
We have trouble with the socialist looney leftie types here they side with islam and want to push their socialist agender onto Toddlers in pre school then if people objected to it they're called "Homophobes"or Islamaphobes" its their way of shutting down debates by name calling.
do you know what socialism is? because it's got 0 to do with either of those things.