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01 Jul 2016, 1:37 pm

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Wow a liberal from Chicago, you don't see them everyday.


Not only that, but Chicago is Obama's stomping grounds.


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01 Jul 2016, 1:39 pm

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I will literally put money down that he'll get more than 1%

polls are worthless btw, the tabs on that is what? 300 people? Meaning like they polls 20 black guys, it's nonsense.

Trump will win more of the black vote and more the Hispanic vote that any other Republican will have gotten in quite some time


Well it's more than just polls. Democrats routinely win the majority of minority votes. And claiming the poll is meaningless with that level of a disparity is laughable.



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01 Jul 2016, 1:40 pm

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Wow a liberal from Chicago, you don't see them everyday.


Your point?



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01 Jul 2016, 1:43 pm

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No, I'm saying Trump's and the Republican party's attempts to appeal to the racists and bigots in this country have not gone unnoticed amongst the African American population.

There are plenty of legitimate and not racist reasons to not support Obama. Not everyone who doesn't like Obama is a racist but it's pretty safe to say white racists almost universally hate Obama.


You're last sentence also makes no sense. There are Black racists too, and they certainly aren't going to like a White Trump. That statement is pretty obvious as anyone who is "racist" opposes the opposite of who they are. Ex: the Black Panthers, KKK.


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01 Jul 2016, 1:45 pm

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Nurseangela,

No, I'm saying Trump's and the Republican party's attempts to appeal to the racists and bigots in this country have not gone unnoticed amongst the African American population.

There are plenty of legitimate and not racist reasons to not support Obama. Not everyone who doesn't like Obama is a racist but it's pretty safe to say white racists almost universally hate Obama.


You know what? I think most people who are for Obama are racist against the White people. They are so brainwashed that they are scared not to go along with someone who is a different race than White because they don't want to be labeled as racist or bigots. Right now, I'm actually ashamed to be in a country with people who can't think for themselves and would take a "supposed" Black President just because he is Black. And no one is ever going to make me believe that Obama's "blackness" wasn't the real reason he was elected.


So are you calling me a racist now? :lol:

And about thinking for yourself. Have you ever posted a thought that wasn't fed to you by Drudge or Breitbart?



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01 Jul 2016, 1:48 pm

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Lukeda420 wrote:
Nurseangela,

No, I'm saying Trump's and the Republican party's attempts to appeal to the racists and bigots in this country have not gone unnoticed amongst the African American population.

There are plenty of legitimate and not racist reasons to not support Obama. Not everyone who doesn't like Obama is a racist but it's pretty safe to say white racists almost universally hate Obama.


You're last sentence also makes no sense. There are Black racists too, and they certainly aren't going to like a White Trump. That statement is pretty obvious as anyone who is "racist" opposes the opposite of who they are. Ex: the Black Panthers, KKK.


You should go back and reread that. It clearly went over your head.

Yes there are black racist, but the democratic party has not made a concerted effort to court them like the Republicans have to white supremacists.



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01 Jul 2016, 2:02 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:
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Nurseangela,

No, I'm saying Trump's and the Republican party's attempts to appeal to the racists and bigots in this country have not gone unnoticed amongst the African American population.

There are plenty of legitimate and not racist reasons to not support Obama. Not everyone who doesn't like Obama is a racist but it's pretty safe to say white racists almost universally hate Obama.


You know what? I think most people who are for Obama are racist against the White people. They are so brainwashed that they are scared not to go along with someone who is a different race than White because they don't want to be labeled as racist or bigots. Right now, I'm actually ashamed to be in a country with people who can't think for themselves and would take a "supposed" Black President just because he is Black. And no one is ever going to make me believe that Obama's "blackness" wasn't the real reason he was elected.


So are you calling me a racist now? :lol:

And about thinking for yourself. Have you ever posted a thought that wasn't fed to you by Drudge or Breitbart?


That's why I put in "most". :mrgreen:


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01 Jul 2016, 2:08 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Nurseangela,

No, I'm saying Trump's and the Republican party's attempts to appeal to the racists and bigots in this country have not gone unnoticed amongst the African American population.

There are plenty of legitimate and not racist reasons to not support Obama. Not everyone who doesn't like Obama is a racist but it's pretty safe to say white racists almost universally hate Obama.


You know what? I think most people who are for Obama are racist against the White people. They are so brainwashed that they are scared not to go along with someone who is a different race than White because they don't want to be labeled as racist or bigots. Right now, I'm actually ashamed to be in a country with people who can't think for themselves and would take a "supposed" Black President just because he is Black. And no one is ever going to make me believe that Obama's "blackness" wasn't the real reason he was elected.


So are you calling me a racist now? :lol:

And about thinking for yourself. Have you ever posted a thought that wasn't fed to you by Drudge or Breitbart?


What you don't understand is that there is only a few places I can get my news from with Breitbart, Drudge and Fox being those sources. Why would I want to be listening to other sources that are for the Democratic Left side? That's why they are going after Fox and Drudge to censor (silence) them from telling the real truth. The Left controls (or is trying) to control the media.


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01 Jul 2016, 2:25 pm

Ok, you're right you did say most. :)

But do you really think that all of the other news sources are on the far left? Now I'm not saying their aren't liberal media outlets but they certainly aren't in the main stream. You might be surprised but most liberals hate CNN and ABC news too. Although w may not agree on why I think we can agree that the main stream news sucks at its job.

The thing about most mainstream media is that it isn't really right or left, it's corporate. They'll sell whatever makes them the most money. Typically this takes on the form of trying to make every race seem as close as possible to up they're ratings.



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01 Jul 2016, 2:49 pm

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Well, I for one like the idea of giving the rest of the world a spray tanned, combed-over, living breathing middle finger, but I'm more interested in the idea of a president so hated on all sides that he couldn't really get away with anything. It wasn't his fault, but I was so embarrassed when Obama won the peace prize just for being elected that I'd welcome the European horror at a President Trump, and also unlike Obama, I wouldn't expect him to get free passes on everything, the most conspicuous for me being the anti-war movement that dried up the second he was elected, and never said boo about any of his foreign adventurism.

Not true, Obama's drone war in the Middle East is an abysmal policy-- you won't see me back it, even if others on my side will (and yes, you are correct there a lot that will based solely on "follow the group" but that's inherent in any political group). Also, I agree partially with the Peace Prize complaint, Obama did nothing to earn the prize, but it was a historic moment which is why it was awarded. Political affiliation aside-- a man leading a country where his people were once slaves is a historic moment, whether it be here, ancient Greece, red, blue, or purple. That said, it should have went to the American voter/citizen/country and not the individual. To be honest the Nobel committee did him no favors on that one, and I bet they felt like idiots when he immediately turned around and started bombing the s**t out of 3rd world countries (to bring the argument full circle).



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01 Jul 2016, 2:54 pm

I remember even hearing Obama himself joke about getting the peace prize just for being elected.
http://www.msnbc.com/way-too-early/watc ... 5134403950



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01 Jul 2016, 4:24 pm

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Political affiliation aside--a man leading a country where his people were once slaves is a historic moment...


On his father's side, "his people" were Luo living in East Africa, not part of the Atlantic slave trade, and on his mother's side, "his people" were English-American settlers, some of whom actually owned slaves.


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01 Jul 2016, 4:40 pm

Darmok wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Political affiliation aside--a man leading a country where his people were once slaves is a historic moment...


On his father's side, "his people" were Luo living in East Africa, and on his mother's side, "his people" were English-American colonists from the 17th century (Puritans and others).

Yes, I had a feeling someone would parse that part but didn't want to make the post too lengthy. It was in reference to generic "black" or "African-American", whichever nomenclature you prefer. Obviously he's half white, and the African descent is recent Kenyan-- meaning his direct ancestors did not go through slavery. That's all irrelevant, in this country-- due to the institution of slavery-- most of African descent have lost the origins of their heritage, and thus they all consider themselves "black" or "African-American" since they have no origin history to attach themselves to. He represents that group-- he feels that way, and by and large the African-American community feels that way.