How would you describe your political alignment?

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How would you describe your political alignment?

Far Left	18%	[ 12 ]
Left	13%	[ 9 ]
Center Left	16%	[ 11 ]
Centrist/Moderate	9%	[ 6 ]
Center Right	9%	[ 6 ]
Right	1%	[ 1 ]
Far Right	0%	[ 0 ]
Other	26%	[ 18 ]
Don't Know	4%	[ 3 ]
Don't Care	0%	[ 0 ]
Don't Know AND Don't Care	3%	[ 2 ]

Total votes : 68

RetroGamer87
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20 Feb 2017, 9:41 pm

the_phoenix wrote:

RetroGamer87 wrote:

If a system can never be implemented correctly then there's something wrong with the system itself.

A good system is self-correcting. Socialism is not self-correcting.

Power always corrupts and socialism gives absolute power over the economy to a small group of elite individuals.

My goodness, RetroGamer87 ........
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Are you saying I have logic or I lack logic?

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20 Feb 2017, 10:05 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:

the_phoenix wrote:

RetroGamer87 wrote:

My goodness, RetroGamer87 ........
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Are you saying I have logic or I lack logic?

That you have logic.

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20 Feb 2017, 10:34 pm

^ Socialism is the great hope of underachievers...

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20 Feb 2017, 11:02 pm

Socialism won't stop you from being an underachiever. Only you can do that.

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20 Feb 2017, 11:50 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:

Unregulated capitalism leads to elite individuals being in charge as well, with the masses living short, brutal lives to provide wealth to said elite individuals. Capitalism only works for all when government regulation keeps those elites from killing us with their shoddy products, hazardous working conditions, and the poisoning of the environment. That, and the workers being able to organize in order to grab the elites below the belt and twist hard, in order to force said elites to share in the wealth.

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21 Feb 2017, 12:02 am

Yes.

I wasn't condoning capitalism, I was condemning socialism.

If one is bad that doesn't make the other good.

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21 Feb 2017, 12:42 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:

Yes.

I wasn't condoning capitalism, I was condemning socialism.

If one is bad that doesn't make the other good.

Fair enough. The best system has characteristics of both socialism and capitalism.

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21 Feb 2017, 12:46 am

Shahunshah wrote:

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Very, very left. Socialist values (and before some right winger comes jumping down my throat about socialist countries I'm talking about the actual school of thought and beliefs, not the incorrect implementation of it). I don't really respect Democrats much because a lot of them are really more moderate than anything else. They won't do much of anything except be wishy washy and they will vehemently defend hate groups while turning a blind eye to injustices against minority groups.

This shouldn't be political, since capitalism is a monetary system, but capitalism is entwined in politics and I'm very very very anti capitalism. Capitalism is a exploitative system that does far more harm than good.

And how do we do that?

You're a good example actually lol. You have spent so much time defending that neo Nazi on here but I've yet to see you talk about police brutality and anti black racism.

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21 Feb 2017, 1:19 am

lidsmichelle wrote:

Shahunshah wrote:

lidsmichelle wrote:

And how do we do that?

You're a good example actually lol. You have spent so much time defending that neo Nazi on here but I've yet to see you talk about police brutality and anti black racism.

Watch me in some of my other threads. I am actually quite lefty. Of course Black racism etc. is terrible and I do not condone it but thing is what good does punishing Spencer do?

Ask yourself that and think hard. And if he wants a better world how can he be considered a bad person?

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21 Feb 2017, 1:59 am

Shahunshah wrote:

lidsmichelle wrote:

Shahunshah wrote:

lidsmichelle wrote:

And how do we do that?

You're a good example actually lol. You have spent so much time defending that neo Nazi on here but I've yet to see you talk about police brutality and anti black racism.

If you don't talk about racism you're a racist!

Of course I expect someone from New Zealand to know just as much about issues facing African Americans as someone from the United States!

/sarcasm

Seriously, is police brutality common in New Zealand?

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21 Feb 2017, 2:16 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:

Shahunshah wrote:

lidsmichelle wrote:

Shahunshah wrote:

lidsmichelle wrote:

And how do we do that?

You're a good example actually lol. You have spent so much time defending that neo Nazi on here but I've yet to see you talk about police brutality and anti black racism.

Yeah, I am also 16 so think of me as someone who doesn't know everything.

Police brutality is not common but their is an anti-police culture amongst many people.

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21 Feb 2017, 2:44 am

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Yeah, I am also 16 so think of me as someone who doesn't know everything.

There's been a few in PPR who have suggested that being 16 means I don't know anything. But I've found in a lot of cases I'll come across someone in their 40-50's who says basically the same things I say. The latest one was Piers Morgan talking to Bill Maher. He sounded just like me lol.

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21 Feb 2017, 3:01 am

EzraS wrote:

Shahunshah wrote:

Yeah, I am also 16 so think of me as someone who doesn't know everything.

Yeah I agree being 16 is certainly not always an indication of knowing less. I think that since many aspies have an an intense interest in politics and current affairs they might end up knowing more than the average person.

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21 Feb 2017, 8:06 pm

Capitalism is like a soaring aircraft without pilot. Human beings don't have control. We are spiralling towards disaster (in case the Gs haven't killed you yet).

The government won't save us -nor will a new one. Government is part of the problem.

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21 Feb 2017, 8:13 pm

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Being 16 myself, I find that some, though definetly not all, adults sometimes forget how capable THEY were at 16.

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22 Feb 2017, 2:54 am

sometimes, they forget how incapable they were, too... :lol:

i was 16 when i joined this site and i said some super dumb things in news threads i'd like to take back. you all seem to be far more keen in those areas than i was, then. (or still!)

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