Can one be both conservative *and* tolerant?

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On one issue at a time only?

Tell me how many times you would prefer conservatives to be tolerant, and I am fairly certain I can find relevant proof.

You know as well as I do that finding one example for any question doesn't make conservatives tolerant in general. It means that everyone draws unique boundaries for what they will tolerate.

In general, conservatives tolerate less change. That is what defines them as conservative.

I admire when anyone is able to take off the political blinders that limit their world views. Now, when American liberals, progressives, socialists and communists tolerate just a little conservative change, how does that define them?

Every definition is just a partition. A partition is a division of a set such that the intersection of any subsets is the empty set, and the union of all subsets is the set itself.

Some definitions are just poorly defined partitions. We can define good partitions where either of our claims is true, maybe.

To be perfectly clear, I find it useful to draw a line segment between conservative and tolerant, so by my understanding a person can't be very conservative and very tolerant at the same time. They can be a little of both.

People will try to define tolerance in such a way that leftists are the intolerant ones. We've had that argument already elsewhere.

Isn't that the very definition of argumentum ad hominem?

Where is there an implied value judgement, outside of your mind?

When someone states that...


...certain unflattering presumptions have been made about individuals who are "conservative" in general and individuals who are "tolerant" in general. Isn't that a value judgment?

I mean that you find them unflattering or flattering at your own risk. I see problems with excessive intolerance and excessive tolerance (or at least, the unreasonable expectation of a particular form of tolerance), so I'm not saying conservatives are bad for being less tolerant than non-conservatives in general. I think resistance to change is a defining feature of conservatism, and it's only historical revisionists who claim that the past was actually more tolerant.

If you have a different definition of conservatism, I could answer from that perspective, but I wrote my answer from my perspective, and I gave a very specific definition. Could you direct my attention to your definition of the term, please?

Can one be both "liberal" *and* tolerant? Apparently not.

CSUF lecturer suspended for attacking conservative student

--The California State University, Fullerton lecturer who was recently filmed while physically accosting a conservative student has been suspended, and may face misdemeanor charges.

--Eric Canin approached members of the College Republicans on February 8 as they were counter-protesting an anti-Trump rally, shoving at least two students and allegedly punching one....

“The University has completed its internal investigation regarding a February 8 rally held on campus during which a lecturer was alleged to be in an altercation with a student protester from the College Republicans,” CSUF Chief Communications Officer Jeffrey D. Cook confirmed in a statement to Campus Reform.

“The investigation substantiated the charges that a physical altercation occurred, that a campus employee struck a student, and that as a consequence the speech of the student group was stopped,” he elaborated, saying, “The prospect of an incident like this on our campus is profoundly troubling.”

http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8826

^ You can find beaucoup examples of liberal intolerance, but I think liberals believe they are the only ones with the intellect to decide what counts and what doesn't. From that we get into liberal arrogance, a topic in itself...

In my experience within the Democratic Party (local, state and national) I have witnessed others make the argument that they needed to bend the rules because the Republican Party had cheated, too. Is that supposed to be unassailable logic?

I want to agree with you about hating arrogant people, but since you and I hate each other on some level, I think that might constitute a personal attack on both of us. I hope that makes sense.

I'll keep saying it. Definitions are partitions, and some are poorly defined partitions, which makes them bad definitions. I acknowledge no definer or decider, except in the context of a particular discussion. I'm about as passionate about that as Raptor is about his guns. Deal with it.

Why are liberal institutions so intolerant of diversity?

28 Conservative/Libertarian Law Profs Demand That AALS Address Political Imbalance Of Law School Faculties
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog ... e-of-.html

Your small samples and false equivalences convince no one, Damrok.

The left hardly has a monopoly on tolerance. Similarly, the right hardly has a monopoly on intolerance. There are plenty of both in every political group.