Why do machines and robots have to take our jobs, why?

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28 Feb 2017, 9:49 am

As for the vaccine quote, I would ask Gates about that. But I have a little theory:

Before vaccines, families used to have more kids than today---because more bodies were needed to work the farm or whatever. And infant mortality, before the mid-20th century, was extremely high throughout the world--at least 100 of 1,000 babies died before their first birthday in those days. Moreover, before vaccines, many children and young adults died, or were rendered insolvent, because of such preventable diseases as polio and diphtheria, thereby necessitating the creation of "new bodies" to support the family.

Therefore, with vaccines, less children would die of preventable diseases--hence, there is less of a need for "bodies" to support the family. This would (and did) have an exponential effect on birth rates.

I understand that there is a civil liberties issue relating to vaccines and how the government requires their usage.



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28 Feb 2017, 10:31 am

Thinking about this stuff just makes me want to go live out in the woods, Amish people might of had the right idea.



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28 Feb 2017, 10:35 am

In some ways, Amish people DO have the right idea.



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28 Feb 2017, 10:37 am

Jacoby wrote:
Thinking about this stuff just makes me want to go live out in the woods, Amish people might of had the right idea.


The Amish would cut down the trees to make houses and barns. Then they would farm the land they cleared.



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28 Feb 2017, 10:50 am

Almost like slash and burn.

But the Native Americans had the right idea. They would burn the woods, thereby creating nutrients for new trees to grow in place of the trees felled and/or burned.



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28 Feb 2017, 3:41 pm

Once rotary dial came in, the jobs of phone operators were lost, as people could call the phone numbers themselves, the operator no longer needed to do it for them, thus taking away their job. Bridges took away the jobs of ferrymen. Automatic elevators took away the jobs of elevator operators.



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28 Feb 2017, 4:15 pm

Yet we survived.


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02 Mar 2017, 8:23 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Heck, if they want to automate the heck out of things it might be for the mass production and distribution of food and basic amenities to those who need them - make it uber-efficient and cut costs at the same time!


That's one of the better ideas I've seen. I always thought the government could make its functions more cost effective if it owned more of the tool chain, especially if those tool chains were so efficient they could be automated.


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03 Mar 2017, 1:59 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Yet we survived.


In the past. That is no guarantee of anything. Eventually if you do not go to the doctor some preventable disease will likely get you, the most ingenoius Ponzi scheme will collapse. What makes me pessimistic about this particular situation is that nobody seems to have a clue.


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03 Mar 2017, 5:08 pm

The human race cannot survive for eternity.


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03 Mar 2017, 5:26 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Yet we survived.

You ought to see the movie Rouge One.

There are now stories about people in the rust belt of America who believe Trump owes them good jobs for electing him President. I have no doubt that is what they want.

One of the hard lessons about being a smart Aspie is realizing that normal people need more than just a technical solution. They will immediately reject that because it is too different than what they expect or are accustomed. You need to be persistent and expect change in attitudes to be slow.