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05 Apr 2017, 7:29 pm

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Obama supported ISIS

You don't really believe that, do you?


There was both overt and covert involvement in starting the war in Syria, this is likely what got our ambassador killed in Benghazi which Susan Rice lied about by the way saying it was a spontaneous protest to some obscure Youtube video. The Obama administration got in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood thinking they were Islamists they could control, they allowed them to overthrow their puppet Mubarak in Egypt and used them as foot soldiers in the NATO war on Libya. They armed these jihadists and aided in their transfer to Syria to fight in this fake civil war. ISIS does not exist as it does now without Barack Obama and that should be his legacy.


We wouldn't be in that part of the world at all, were it not for Bush's military adventurism.


Bush/Clinton/Obama all run deep with the CIA and have the blood of millions on their hands.


And I'm sure you'll be able to add Trump to that list before all is said and done.


or he might end up like JFK

there's a reason why nothing ever changes in this country, we only have the facade of being a representative democracy



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05 Apr 2017, 7:44 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
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Jacoby wrote:
Obama supported ISIS

You don't really believe that, do you?


There was both overt and covert involvement in starting the war in Syria, this is likely what got our ambassador killed in Benghazi which Susan Rice lied about by the way saying it was a spontaneous protest to some obscure Youtube video. The Obama administration got in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood thinking they were Islamists they could control, they allowed them to overthrow their puppet Mubarak in Egypt and used them as foot soldiers in the NATO war on Libya. They armed these jihadists and aided in their transfer to Syria to fight in this fake civil war. ISIS does not exist as it does now without Barack Obama and that should be his legacy.


We wouldn't be in that part of the world at all, were it not for Bush's military adventurism.


Bush/Clinton/Obama all run deep with the CIA and have the blood of millions on their hands.


And I'm sure you'll be able to add Trump to that list before all is said and done.


or he might end up like JFK

there's a reason why nothing ever changes in this country, we only have the facade of being a representative democracy


Assassinated? Only if he genuinely crosses the wrong people, and that doesn't seem to be the state of things, as he's got both the super rich and far right on his side.


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05 Apr 2017, 8:53 pm

Raw political spying, like the KGB in the old USSR -- that's the Obama legacy:

Reports in unmasking controversy were detailed, had info about 'everyday lives'

The intelligence reports at the center of the Susan Rice unmasking controversy were detailed, and almost resembled a private investigator’s file, according to a Republican congressman familiar with the documents.

"This is information about their everyday lives," Rep. Peter King of New York, a member of the House Intelligence committee said. "Sort of like in a divorce case where lawyers are hired, investigators are hired just to find out what the other person is doing from morning until night and then you try to piece it together later on.” ...

Nunes has consistently stated that the files caused him deep concern because the unmasking went beyond the former national security adviser Mike Flynn, and the information was not related to Moscow.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04 ... lives.html


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05 Apr 2017, 9:29 pm

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Raw political spying, like the KGB in the old USSR -- that's the Obama legacy:

Reports in unmasking controversy were detailed, had info about 'everyday lives'

The intelligence reports at the center of the Susan Rice unmasking controversy were detailed, and almost resembled a private investigator’s file, according to a Republican congressman familiar with the documents.

"This is information about their everyday lives," Rep. Peter King of New York, a member of the House Intelligence committee said. "Sort of like in a divorce case where lawyers are hired, investigators are hired just to find out what the other person is doing from morning until night and then you try to piece it together later on.” ...

Nunes has consistently stated that the files caused him deep concern because the unmasking went beyond the former national security adviser Mike Flynn, and the information was not related to Moscow.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04 ... lives.html


1 - Find a source more reliable and more respectable than Fox.
2 - Steve King is a partisan hack, and a past supporter of the IRA terrorist organization.
3 - Nunes should have recused himself from the investigation, as he was an ardent and visible Trump supporter during the Presidential campaign. That, and the information he brought to the White House he had gotten from the White House. Not the most reliable individual.


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18 May 2017, 7:56 pm

So what ever happened to this so-called scandal?


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18 May 2017, 8:58 pm

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So what ever happened to this so-called scandal?


needs cooperation of law enforcement

with comey gone maybe a real inquiry can happen



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18 May 2017, 9:12 pm

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Blaming that on Trump is ridiculous, Obama supported ISIS in Syria so he is most responsible for everything that happens there. I doubt the truth of the reporting to be honest, all sides in Syria have at this point used 'chemical weapons'.


And Trump's response now is to do nothing? Whether or not Obama's actions led to this attack is irrelevant now. Trump doesn't want to get involved, which is sad. America has power to help in this situation.


The last thing the world needs, now or at anytime, is "America's help". Whenever the U.S. offers "help" it invariably ends in catastrophe for the nation or region that was on the receiving end of it. Look, do the world a BIG favour, and just stop meddling in affairs that are of no concern to you. You are not 'exceptional', you are not 'the world's policeman'. Just stay the f*** out of everyone else's business! :evil:



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19 May 2017, 1:19 am

Thisgate, thatgate, I'm getting sick of all these goddamn gates. :X


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19 May 2017, 8:10 am

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Thisgate, thatgate, I'm getting sick of all these goddamn gates. :X

Will they name a scandal involving water "watergate"? :wink:


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19 May 2017, 11:52 am

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Thisgate, thatgate, I'm getting sick of all these goddamn gates. :X

Will they name a scandal involving water "watergate"? :wink:


Or, would a scandal involving the gate industry be called gategate? :lol:


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19 May 2017, 3:26 pm

I don't understand why they would need to demand Trump's tax records, if they can compile detailed dossiers.

Maybe, there was nothing outrightly-illegal, and it was just intended as innuendo.



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19 May 2017, 4:11 pm

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I don't understand why they would need to demand Trump's tax records, if they can compile detailed dossiers.

Maybe, there was nothing outrightly-illegal, and it was just intended as innuendo.


Because his excuse for not releasing them - the whole audit thing - is tired old bullsh*t, and so the implication is that he's hiding something. Maybe not paying taxes he should, maybe being indebted to the Russians through loans and privileges.


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19 May 2017, 4:32 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Tollorin wrote:
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Thisgate, thatgate, I'm getting sick of all these goddamn gates. :X

Will they name a scandal involving water "watergate"? :wink:


Or, would a scandal involving the gate industry be called gategate? :lol:


No scandal named "Aspiegate"?


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19 May 2017, 6:04 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Tollorin wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Thisgate, thatgate, I'm getting sick of all these goddamn gates. :X

Will they name a scandal involving water "watergate"? :wink:


Or, would a scandal involving the gate industry be called gategate? :lol:


No scandal named "Aspiegate"?


Give it time.


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20 May 2017, 12:30 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Tollorin wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Thisgate, thatgate, I'm getting sick of all these goddamn gates. :X

Will they name a scandal involving water "watergate"? :wink:


Or, would a scandal involving the gate industry be called gategate? :lol:


No scandal named "Aspiegate"?


Give it time.


Differently-but-equally-abled-person-with-an-autistic-spectrum-disorder-gate. :lol:


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20 May 2017, 3:05 pm

Is anyone even talking about this so called Obamagate idiocy anymore? I tend to think even most Trumpanzees have come to realize this was nothing more than just Trump's baseless paranoia, or an ill-thought out, vindictive tit-for-tat on his part.


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