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10 Apr 2017, 7:20 pm

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Not all Conservatives like waking up to panzers like that.
I don't even like the sound of my alarm clock. :P


Yeah, but in keeping with the liberal belief that all conservatives are Nazis... :P

And I agree the most horrible sound in the world is the alarm clock going off early in the morning, kicking of yet another day of eking a living in the salt mine. I use my iPhone to wake me up and in stages and another alarm clock across the room to actually get my ass out of bed.


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10 Apr 2017, 7:27 pm

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Given the guys pretty much lived in those metal boxes I wonder how long it took a tank to smell like a locker room inside. Especially in the Pacific and in North Africa.

On top of that, they are basically an iron coffin with all the threats they have to worry about.


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10 Apr 2017, 7:29 pm

Inasmuch as Philistinism has no followers, as such, but only those so accused, and also on the basis of denouncing the historical slander against the people of Philistia, I dispute the entire basis of the argument.


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10 Apr 2017, 8:05 pm

Raptor wrote:
the_phoenix wrote:
Not all Conservatives like waking up to panzers like that.
I don't even like the sound of my alarm clock. :P


Yeah, but in keeping with the liberal belief that all conservatives are Nazis... :P


I lived in simpler times, when making fun of Conservatives was more innocent ... and fun.
I lived in the era of Reagan. :)



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10 Apr 2017, 8:06 pm

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I'll just leave this here for that certain special person who I seem to have upset.............again.

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Who says I'm butthurt? I think I responded to your jabs, leaving you with no other answer than with butthurt cream.
Might I suggest you try a little, yourself?


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10 Apr 2017, 8:11 pm

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Inasmuch as Philistinism has no followers, as such, but only those so accused, and also on the basis of denouncing the historical slander against the people of Philistia, I dispute the entire basis of the argument.


In fact, the Philistines brought beautiful arts and crafts with them from their Agean home, still greatly resembling that of Bronze Age Greece. How strange that their name came to be a reference to uncultured people, when they were anything but.


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10 Apr 2017, 8:22 pm

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Inasmuch as Philistinism has no followers, as such, but only those so accused, and also on the basis of denouncing the historical slander against the people of Philistia, I dispute the entire basis of the argument.


In fact, the Philistines brought beautiful arts and crafts with them from their Agean home, still greatly resembling that of Bronze Age Greece. How strange that their name came to be a reference to uncultured people, when they were anything but.

I think we can safely blame the bible for that.


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10 Apr 2017, 9:21 pm

the_phoenix wrote:
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the_phoenix wrote:
Not all Conservatives like waking up to panzers like that.
I don't even like the sound of my alarm clock. :P


Yeah, but in keeping with the liberal belief that all conservatives are Nazis... :P


I lived in simpler times, when making fun of Conservatives was more innocent ... and fun.
I lived in the era of Reagan. :)



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Decades later the collective soul of the left is still deeply scarred by the memory of The Gipper. I bet some of them cringed just watching that video. :D


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10 Apr 2017, 9:29 pm

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Raptor wrote:
I'll just leave this here for that certain special person who I seem to have upset.............again.

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Who says I'm butthurt? I think I responded to your jabs, leaving you with no other answer than with butthurt cream.
Might I suggest you try a little, yourself?

Oh trust me I have answers. I could tirelessly type pages of answers but that would run way afoul of the TOS. I like to limit my TOS warnings to only one a week and the week is young. Cordiality with you will at best be strained for reasons that I and at least one other have pointed out to you at length in several threads over the years.
As you sow, so shall you reap.


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10 Apr 2017, 10:27 pm

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Raptor wrote:
I'll just leave this here for that certain special person who I seem to have upset.............again.

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Who says I'm butthurt? I think I responded to your jabs, leaving you with no other answer than with butthurt cream.
Might I suggest you try a little, yourself?

Oh trust me I have answers. I could tirelessly type pages of answers but that would run way afoul of the TOS. I like to limit my TOS warnings to only one a week and the week is young. Cordiality with you will at best be strained for reasons that I and at least one other have pointed out to you at length in several threads over the years.
As you sow, so shall you reap.


I'll remind you, I had tried to be cordial to you, but it was you who had chosen to be insulting. All you need do is be polite.


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10 Apr 2017, 10:30 pm

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Inasmuch as Philistinism has no followers, as such, but only those so accused, and also on the basis of denouncing the historical slander against the people of Philistia, I dispute the entire basis of the argument.


In fact, the Philistines brought beautiful arts and crafts with them from their Agean home, still greatly resembling that of Bronze Age Greece. How strange that their name came to be a reference to uncultured people, when they were anything but.

I think we can safely blame the bible for that.


Doubtlessly so. The Philistines rarely are given good press in the Old Testament, save for when David chose to incorporate them into his army after conquering them. Shows how he admired their martial abilities.


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10 Apr 2017, 10:57 pm

From what people say Philistine and Roman culture sound real similar.

The Roman's seemed to use religion for secular ends and barely believed in it. I often hear people talk about how if you were a general and not doing well at a post you'd get a message to the effect that the Emperor no longer required your services and, much like Japan under Bushido, that was their euphemism for saying you were obligated to either commit suicide or, in lieu of that, turn the punishment on your family as well.


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11 Apr 2017, 2:57 am

So...I was thinking (never a good sign).

The economy provides us with commodities, which is nice, and the military provides safety and oil to keep the economy going. Great. Safety and stuff. Now... There's doctors providing healthcare, lawyers arguably settling legal disputes and so on.
All these things are good and necessary to cover needs.
However: what for?

What do people live for? Among other things, their culture, I'd say. However, if you only apply free market rules to cultural products, you are dismissing that culture may not be adeqiately measureably in "price".
Van gogh never sold a painting, kafka never even tried to publush a text. Both of them were kept financially afloat by family members. So... Rich families for everyone, I guess.
I mean, van gogh and kafka had little market value at the time, but became these masdively influential entities, posthumously, without whom 20th century western culture wouldn't be the way it is.
Government subsidies for art are a way to have artist create cultural products that may have no value AT THE TIME.

But how long do you think the US can be leading in culture without investment? What if the US do not lead the western world, and gets flooded with, say, french films, because they value their cultural products?


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11 Apr 2017, 4:28 am

shlaifu wrote:
So...I was thinking (never a good sign).

The economy provides us with commodities, which is nice, and the military provides safety and oil to keep the economy going. Great. Safety and stuff. Now... There's doctors providing healthcare, lawyers arguably settling legal disputes and so on.
All these things are good and necessary to cover needs.
However: what for?

What do people live for? Among other things, their culture, I'd say. However, if you only apply free market rules to cultural products, you are dismissing that culture may not be adeqiately measureably in "price".
Van gogh never sold a painting, kafka never even tried to publush a text. Both of them were kept financially afloat by family members. So... Rich families for everyone, I guess.
I mean, van gogh and kafka had little market value at the time, but became these masdively influential entities, posthumously, without whom 20th century western culture wouldn't be the way it is.
Government subsidies for art are a way to have artist create cultural products that may have no value AT THE TIME.

But how long do you think the US can be leading in culture without investment? What if the US do not lead the western world, and gets flooded with, say, french films, because they value their cultural products?


Excellent point.


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