Why do rednecks side with the Republican Party?
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How are the Democrats siding against rednecks? By standing by racial and sexual minorities who had been relegated to second class status (especially in redneck areas)? By extending the social safety net to those who need help? By refusing to accept ignorance over science? If anything, it's the rednecks who had already drawn up the battle lines.
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Republican Party: The Republican Party is run by greedy billionaires. They pretend to be Christian even though they obviously have never read the New Testament. They don't care about the environment. They regard all non-billionaires as pawns. They create wars in order to make money. These wars feed the Islamic State and create refugees. These refugees end up coming to the West. Some of these refugees become radicalized and commit terror attacks. The victims of these attacks are usually in the lower economic classes.
Rednecks: Most rednecks are lower/middle class people who live on farms. These farms will be destroyed by global warming by the end of this century. Rednecks will call you a communist if you disagree with the Republicans on anything ... even though the Republican Party is destroying everything that rednecks love.
I'm not saying that rednecks should vote Democrat. The Democratic Party is also terrible because it is also owned by billionaire lobbyists. The rednecks would be politically independent centrists if they were really fighting to defend their way of life.
war industry delenda est
Because the Democrates have become associated with people the demean them and their way of life.
This. I changed sides because I'm sick of being pitied and put down. Also, I would rather be left alone and free to make my own life, even if it is harder and less materially comfortable than a life I might be given, than be "kept."
Farm animals and pets are "kept". And their keepers dictate the parameters and duration of their lives. I'd rather make my own way, and have nobody but God determine when I should cease.
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For the record, I am redneck as f**k. I'm so redneck, I'm hillbilly. I don't care what our sexual or gender orientation is, as long as you're not trying to f**k me or telling me I should be more feminine. I don't care what you call God or if you believe, as long as you're not trying to tell me I'm stupid or damned or should shut up because I don't think like you. I'm a Jesus Pagan, for crying out loud. I don't care what color your skin is-- unless you want to jump my s**t about mine or tell me I should kiss your ass because of yours. And then, I still don't care what color you are-- you're an a**hole, it doesn't matter which a**hole is browner.
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Then obviously, you're not the kind of redneck we're talking about.
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Bernie Sanders explained it.
The Democrats have lost the middle class, because they don't care about them.
So the middle class vote for peoples who cared even less about them.
-Trump wants middle class tax cuts (double the standard deduction).
-Trump wants the Obamacare penalty off the backs of the middle class.
-Trump is doing something about immigration that helps middle class jobs.
"Trump's anti-H1B tactics compel Infosys to recruit 10,000 employees in the US"
http://www.zdnet.com/article/trumps-ant ... in-the-us/
-Trump is renegotiating NAFTA more favorably for the US.
Trump (Gasp) wants pro-labor tariffs (aka the border adjustment tax).
Democrats wouldn't give a hoot about any of this.
Trump don't want to cut only the middle class, but also millionaires and billionaires. So we can ask where he intend to find the money for services like infrastructures and education, a replacement for Obamacare or scientific research that don't interest the private industry; unless they privatized and the middle class then have to pay on the use of services of worst quality while the poor can't access to them anymore.
Also, immigration don't menace middle class jobs, it never did. The jobs taken by the immigrants are the ones that the white middle class don't want because of the hard conditions.
From the 1950's-1990's large swaths of small farms were bought out by these groups to create the farming system we have today. Most of the money came from private investors tied to big cities, and while selling a farm brought a lot of money initially to those that owned land, it also ruined the fabric of the city in place since the farms were a consistent source of jobs and thus income for low-skilled labor and now it's gone: replaced by a large business where the majority of the profit doesn't get recycled in the small town, rather to investors in god knows where. In essence it was a 20th century carpet-bagging operation, at least that's how most locals feel about it.
In Quebec most farmers are still what we can call "small farmers" thanks to the "gestion de l'offre" through some guild-like structure called the UPA (Union des Producteurs Agricoles). It has the unfortunate side effect to raise the price of of some foods like milk and slow down some innovations, but at least family farms can still work without the the threat of corporate farms. A system that is sadly under threat as Trump promised to destroy it with the renegotiation of NAFTA saying it was bad for US farmers: probably having to do that the US corporate farms can't sell some foods to the Quebec market and destroying the province family farms.
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Farm animals and pets are "kept". And their keepers dictate the parameters and duration of their lives. I'd rather make my own way, and have nobody but God determine when I should cease.
I don't see the point of "rugged individualism".
Civilization was created to free us from rugged individualism.
If you want to be hyper-individualistic and self-sustaining, why not just live in the woods?
You don't want to be a farm animal? Would you rather be a wild animal?
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Farm animals and pets are "kept". And their keepers dictate the parameters and duration of their lives. I'd rather make my own way, and have nobody but God determine when I should cease.
I don't see the point of "rugged individualism".
Civilization was created to free us from rugged individualism.
If you want to be hyper-individualistic and self-sustaining, why not just live in the woods?
You don't want to be a farm animal? Would you rather be a wild animal?
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Rednecks already segregate themselves because they think if you aren't white or "Cawcasian" (Despite the fact rednecks are all Anglo-Saxon and Caucasians, although still white, are Armenian, Georgian, Iranian, Turkish, etc.), you are "wrong" so they don't need the Democrat Party to slight them; they already see them as the enemy.
Farm animals and pets are "kept". And their keepers dictate the parameters and duration of their lives. I'd rather make my own way, and have nobody but God determine when I should cease.
I don't see the point of "rugged individualism".
Civilization was created to free us from rugged individualism.
If you want to be hyper-individualistic and self-sustaining, why not just live in the woods?
You don't want to be a farm animal? Would you rather be a wild animal?
Thought the left was all about individualism and everyone being different, unless of course they disapprove of your different the. You're to be destroyed.
Left doesn't give one s**t about me.
Left supports gays unless they're gun owning gays, then their the enemy and evil, but way they can't say that about gays , but wait they own guns, but wait, but wait. Liberal paradox. Turns out people are so black and white, people don't follow stupid party lines set up by rich people who run the democrat party. So I'm an anti democrat, democrat. The party is horrible. I vote republican mostly, but if I lived in a republican state I'm sure I'd vote democrat. I prefer a government so divided it can't get the simplest thing done, least that way neither side can s***w us over. And that's their goals, if you silly enough to think otherwise, your just hiding from the truth, neither party gives a poop about the poor or middle class people. They'll both run by rich, probably the same rich.
Rednecks already segregate themselves because they think if you aren't white or "Cawcasian" (Despite the fact rednecks are all Anglo-Saxon and Caucasians, although still white, are Armenian, Georgian, Iranian, Turkish, etc.), you are "wrong" so they don't need the Democrat Party to slight them; they already see them as the enemy.
And the black or Hispanic rednecks/hibillies?
It's. Nothing to do with race, it's a urban vs country thing.
I think most of the replies to this thread should be a pretty good explanation as to why 'rednecks' think the Democratic Party is against them.(they are) How many times did we hear liberals complain about white people during this election? Not just white people but rather white people without college degrees. *gasp*
The Democratic Party is also controlled by corporate masterminds. I'm getting to the root of the problem here.
America isn't truly democratic. A truly democratic country is a country where everyone can influence the government equally. In most modern "democracies", the rich can increase their level of influence via lobbying.
I will admit that corporate overlords are much scarier than poor people without collage degrees.
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The Democratic Party is also controlled by corporate masterminds. I'm getting to the root of the problem here.
America isn't truly democratic. A truly democratic country is a country where everyone can influence the government equally. In most modern "democracies", the rich can increase their level of influence via lobbying.
I will admit that corporate overlords are much scarier than poor people without collage degrees.
I don't disagree, American democracy is showing itself to be more and more of a sham with every passing day and the idea that the people actually control anything is a sad joke because even when you win the ruling class still won't respect results. What Trump did in the GOP is not possible in the Democratic party, party bosses still decide who the nominee is ultimately in the form of superdelegates so there will never ever be an outside candidate that will win the nomination of that party.
There is most definitely anti-white particularly anti-white working class sentiment among 'progressives' of the Democratic party, the intellectual elitists hold "white n*****s" in the lowest regard possible even below that of terrorists who would behead them without second thought. These elitists are convinced of their supremacy and needed role as rulers of society, they believed in the scientific racism that was in vogue at one time but now they've fully embraced cultural Marxism(never mind the actual connections to marxism or their bourgeois stupidity) The elites in the US have pitted working class whites and minorities against each other almost since the very first day we stepped on this continent. This is how they maintain control.
Kraichgauer
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The Democratic Party is also controlled by corporate masterminds. I'm getting to the root of the problem here.
America isn't truly democratic. A truly democratic country is a country where everyone can influence the government equally. In most modern "democracies", the rich can increase their level of influence via lobbying.
I will admit that corporate overlords are much scarier than poor people without collage degrees.
I don't disagree, American democracy is showing itself to be more and more of a sham with every passing day and the idea that the people actually control anything is a sad joke because even when you win the ruling class still won't respect results. What Trump did in the GOP is not possible in the Democratic party, party bosses still decide who the nominee is ultimately in the form of superdelegates so there will never ever be an outside candidate that will win the nomination of that party.
There is most definitely anti-white particularly anti-white working class sentiment among 'progressives' of the Democratic party, the intellectual elitists hold "white n*****s" in the lowest regard possible even below that of terrorists who would behead them without second thought. These elitists are convinced of their supremacy and needed role as rulers of society, they believed in the scientific racism that was in vogue at one time but now they've fully embraced cultural Marxism(never mind the actual connections to marxism or their bourgeois stupidity) The elites in the US have pitted working class whites and minorities against each other almost since the very first day we stepped on this continent. This is how they maintain control.
You seriously don't see conservatives elites playing poor whites off against minorities by playing up to the fear of whites losing ground to the so called undeserving "other?"
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