Joe Biden’s Presidential aspirations and the reckoning

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06 Apr 2019, 2:20 pm

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I don’t believe in the PC nonsense, either.

Biden did what many men did in the old days. Most didn’t mind that stuff—some did, though.

Yeah.....Trump would be “grabbing that p****.”

Most people (and most women) don’t take those allegations against Biden very seriously.

People who try and make something/k out of this are seriously showing unreasonable bias and destroy their own credibility...
It's embracing...

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06 Apr 2019, 2:28 pm

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Biden jokes about physical contact in first speech since allegations he made women uncomfortable

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Former Vice President Joe Biden joked twice about having permission to touch people on Friday during his first public appearance since several women alleged he made them uncomfortable in encounters over the years.

After his speech at the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Construction Conference in Washington, DC, Biden also said that while he was sorry he didn't understand more about the how his behavior made women feel, he made clear he was not apologizing for any of his intentions, telling reporters, "I am not sorry for anything that I have ever done -- I've never been disrespectful, intentionally, to a man or a woman."

Biden's comments were the most direct response so far to allegations he made women feel uncomfortable with the way he touched them. Lucy Flores, a former Nevada assemblywoman, penned an essay last week detailing a 2014 encounter during which the former vice president made her feel "uneasy, gross and confused" when he came up from behind her and kissed the back of her head. Several women have since come forward with similar stories about Biden.

Biden used humor during his speech on Friday in reference to the allegations. After being introduced by IBEW president Lonnie Stephenson, Biden told the crowd, "I just want you to know. I had permission to hug Lonnie."
Biden returned to the subject with another joke midway through his remarks -- after inviting a group of children at the event up onto the stage, Biden put his arm around one of the kids and said to laughs, "By the way -- he gave me permission to touch him."

Speaking to reporters after his speech, Biden said it wasn't his intent to "make light of anyone's discomfort."

Yeah I am going to be pissed if he gets the democratic nomination, what a scum bag....you don't go up and kiss strange women on the back of the head. If a guy did that to me I'd probably turn around and hit them or just slam my elbow back into them out of reflex. My boyfriend can come up and kiss me on the back of the head if he wants to but he's my boyfriend and we are intimate so we have a relationship it is appropriate for us to touch each other with out asking every time.

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06 Apr 2019, 2:37 pm

I can dig what you’re saying. I’m not into that kind of stuff, either.

I would just tell the guy to knock it off, though. This doesn’t rise to the level of sexual harassment. If he doesn’t stop, THEN it’s sexual harassment.

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06 Apr 2019, 2:43 pm

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Well I see that as a problem...if we really want to address unwanted sexual touching and people in positions of power/influence using that to justify inappropriate touching...seeing just how much they can get away with, then we need to address it on both sides right and left. Regardless of if they had more malicious intentions or were doing it just because 'no one minded in the old days' it still should be addressed and criticized and people held accountable.

How can democrats continue to site allegations of inappropriate touching and sexual harassment as a reason why a right wing candidate for a position is no good...if they won't hold Biden to the same standard?

There are quite a few potential candidates without such allegations, even some younger that might be less out of touch then yet another old white haired man(no offense to old men with white hair...but I mean with all the diversity in this country it does seem strange looking at the pictures of presidents and the vast majority are old men with white hair.

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06 Apr 2019, 2:55 pm

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Well the allegations include kissing strange women on the back of the head, putting his hand on their thigh...those are both sexual harassment. If he goes up to a woman from behind and kisses her on the back of the head...when exactly would she have had the opportunity to tell him no?

I mean seems hes done more than just friendly hugs, where not everyone was so receptive...that is a little different because at least a hug you can see that coming and friends/family do it so its not really a 'sexual' gesture but those other things like thigh touching and back of the head kisses are.

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06 Apr 2019, 3:03 pm

Not just women, CHILDREN.

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06 Apr 2019, 3:34 pm

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In some cultures it is not only acceptable, but expected to kiss people you have just met on the cheek. What is taboo now may have been acceptable when Biden was younger and he just never changed. Remember he came of age during the Mad Men era.

This is why I made the query in the other thread of "What do we do with people like Joe Biden?" His behavior as reported is relatively harmless, but DOES make people uncomfortable and should be discouraged. Now if it escalates beyond what we've already heard, than it's a different matter, but as it stands I don't think the man should be crucified for being a bit different.

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06 Apr 2019, 7:12 pm

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How can democrats continue to site allegations of inappropriate touching and sexual harassment as a reason why a right wing candidate for a position is no good...if they won't hold Biden to the same standard?

I haven't seen anything to suggest Biden engaged in sexual harassment...

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06 Apr 2019, 7:25 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:

People who try and make something/k out of this are seriously showing unreasonable bias and are destroying their own credibility...
It's embracing...

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06 Apr 2019, 8:02 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:

People who try and make something/k out of this are seriously showing unreasonable bias and are destroying their own credibility...
It's embracing...

Personally, I find Biden's behavior a bit creepy -- and I'm not biased. I've never voted for a Republican in my life, and I'm completely non-partisan. Trump has certainly done, and said, much creepier s**t. But let's be honest here. If pictures of Trump emerged similar to the ones that are floating around like Biden's, the left would be hammering him 24/7 -- even if he had no previous history of creepy comments.

So, if you're going to talk about bias, let's be consistent, shall we? The left would be going ape s**t if images like if the person in question was a Pub.

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08 Apr 2019, 5:20 am

Someone should have pulled him aside a long time ago and explained to him that he was coming off creepy af and to cease and desist.

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08 Apr 2019, 6:15 am

Joe Biden went to the funeral of war criminal Ariel Sharon.
He did even speech to honor the butcher of Sabra & Shatila.
It shows me that the real powers in the USA are very evil and wicked.
Joe biden did not go to the funeral of those who are responsebel for 9/11
The are many simelaritys for Sabra & Shatila and 9/11, the amount of innocent death people ar nearly the same.
I think that many people are indoctrinated by factorys as CNN, who are fooling the public opinion and only telling 1 side of the story.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/01/11/isr ... ing-legacy

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30 Apr 2019, 9:13 pm

Biden trying out his new Personal Space Policy (since he can't keep his hands off, he trying from father away). From the look on her face, it's not working.

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29 May 2019, 11:34 am

Joe Biden Asks For 10-Year-Old Girl’s Address, Tells Her She’s “Good Looking”

Joe Biden is being criticized for his creepy behavior once again after he asked a 10-year-old girl for her address and said, “I’ll bet you’re as bright as you are good-looking.”

The incident occurred when Biden responded to a question from the child during an American Federation of Teachers Town Hall in Houston.

“If you give me (your) address, I’m gonna write you a longer answer and tell you the exact things I would do, OK?” said Biden before adding, “I’ll bet you’re as bright as you are good-looking.”

After learning that her favorite subject was journalism, Biden then led the girl over to reporters, held her by the shoulders and whispered something in her ear.

The Washington Post’s national political reporter Felicia Sonmez thought the encounter was “odd,” tweeting, “Recall that Biden filmed a video last month in which he vowed to respect women’s personal space. Seems he hasn’t quite gotten the message.”

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