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28 Dec 2017, 2:13 am

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As an atheist, I'm not offended by being wished happy holidays, merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, joyous solstice, or any other example of a seasonal midwinter greeting. You're telling me you want me to be happy and merry and joyous. I'm all for it, and I don't really care what your motivation is, I'll respond with, "Thank you, and the same to you."

I'm also not offended by Christians going off on mindless narcissistic empty-headed rants about the soi-disant War on Christmas. Stupidity irritates me, but it doesn't offend me.


You have a more patient soul than mine. Maybe it's because I'm a bisexual living in the freaking Bible Belt. People here pause to wait to see if I'm offended by their Merry CHRISTMAS after I say Happy Holidays. Only certain kinds of folks thank goodness. The old money Republicans with rooster hairdos and grandmas that pass out salvation pamphlets. You can see the tanline from their Make America Great Again caps :lol:



You seem like a very judgemental person. Look in the mirror.



It's basic deductive logic, not judgment. I see it as the spirit of discernment. Just got through doing my hair btw. I must say I enjoyed my reflection very much.


Notice how it's okay for harsh conservative minded people to talk smack about everyone but the moment you say anything about them, you get a fight on your hands? What happened to them being big strong men? :roll:

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I have nothing against WASPS. There's no "war" against them.


I am just WAS because I am non-religious. I am surrounded by RBs: Redneck Baptists, the standard of the Bible Belt.



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28 Dec 2017, 4:31 am

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I have nothing against WASPS. There's no "war" against them.


Agreed, 150%!
I'm a WASP, and I can attest that no one is making war on me or anyone else like me. Those of my tribe who insist they are in danger of extinction or enslavement are more upset because they're no longer the King Sh*ts alone, and have to share the benefits and rights of first class citizenship.


Wow. That was f***ing awesome of you to say. Restoring my faith in humanity here.


Forgive me, but as I'm an Aspie, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or sincere.


100% sincere.



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28 Dec 2017, 4:35 am

Marknis wrote:
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As an atheist, I'm not offended by being wished happy holidays, merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, joyous solstice, or any other example of a seasonal midwinter greeting. You're telling me you want me to be happy and merry and joyous. I'm all for it, and I don't really care what your motivation is, I'll respond with, "Thank you, and the same to you."

I'm also not offended by Christians going off on mindless narcissistic empty-headed rants about the soi-disant War on Christmas. Stupidity irritates me, but it doesn't offend me.


You have a more patient soul than mine. Maybe it's because I'm a bisexual living in the freaking Bible Belt. People here pause to wait to see if I'm offended by their Merry CHRISTMAS after I say Happy Holidays. Only certain kinds of folks thank goodness. The old money Republicans with rooster hairdos and grandmas that pass out salvation pamphlets. You can see the tanline from their Make America Great Again caps :lol:



You seem like a very judgemental person. Look in the mirror.



It's basic deductive logic, not judgment. I see it as the spirit of discernment. Just got through doing my hair btw. I must say I enjoyed my reflection very much.


Notice how it's okay for harsh conservative minded people to talk smack about everyone but the moment you say anything about them, you get a fight on your hands? What happened to them being big strong men? :roll:

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I have nothing against WASPS. There's no "war" against them.


I am just WAS because I am non-religious. I am surrounded by RBs: Redneck Baptists, the standard of the Bible Belt.


Exactly. I could add to this discussion but at this point we all know what the OP's perspective is. As far as the Redneck Baptists go, you have my sympathies lol. I feel your pain. They do their best to make it hard for us.



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28 Dec 2017, 5:18 am

Well good that shows you're at least a bit open minded. I am not a christian as I have probably mentioned before, but I am rather used to Merry Christmas so I say that a lot of times even though I don't particularly celebrate it. Also though many of the 'christmas' traditions are more pagan...before Christianity showed up in a lot of cultures, they had seasonal pagan celebrations.....They just infused the christian 'holy days' with it, because they figured if they let the pagans keep a lot of their seasonal traditions they'd be more accepting of adding the whole Jesus shenanigans to it. Hence how Jesus was not born on December 25th but there were winter pagan celebrations so why not make that Jesus's birthday to? woo hooo. I mean come on what do christmas trees or santa have to do with baby jesus? absolutely nothing.


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28 Dec 2017, 5:25 am

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Does Holy Day apply to Judeo religions only though? It seems Pagans and Idolaters identify their seasons as Holy as well. It's like the Holistic health trend.

I say Happy Holidays because Christians get on my nerves in general. I am a Christian but the spirit of Evangelicalism and certain Judaic "cults" are as much an abomination as anything in modern America.


The original post doesn't really make any sense. He says he is "not offended" by "Happy Holidays" because it reinforces the "Christianness" of the season. But it doesn't really. It reinforces the nonsecular/religious aspect of the holiday season, but because other religions besides Christianity have "holy days" there is nothing specifically "Christian" about the expression "happy holidays". And that's part of why they say it. If the person's 'holy day' happens to be Hannukka instead of Christmas then you're still covered if you say "happy holidays".


Thank you. Even in saying he isn't offended he's passive aggressively saying Christians still win out. This butthead mentality contradicts the humility we're supposed to embody as followers of Christ.


Well I think there was a spark of open mindedness there, not being offended by 'happy holidays' is a big step for some people.


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28 Dec 2017, 6:45 am

@Sweetleaf: I’ve usually heard June or July in terms of Jesus’ birth.


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28 Dec 2017, 7:05 am

Onyxaxe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Onyxaxe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I have nothing against WASPS. There's no "war" against them.


Agreed, 150%!
I'm a WASP, and I can attest that no one is making war on me or anyone else like me. Those of my tribe who insist they are in danger of extinction or enslavement are more upset because they're no longer the King Sh*ts alone, and have to share the benefits and rights of first class citizenship.


Wow. That was f***ing awesome of you to say. Restoring my faith in humanity here.


Forgive me, but as I'm an Aspie, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or sincere.


100% sincere.


Well then, thank you very much! :D


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28 Dec 2017, 8:56 am

Neither actually "offends" me.

If Bill O'Reilly accosted me on the street, and growled "SAY it! SAY it" I would happily go ahead and say "Merry Christmas".

But if I worked in the office and had the job of sending out e-mails to invite the corporate district to the office party, I would follow the new convention of calling it "holiday season party".

It all depends on the context.



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28 Dec 2017, 9:15 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Onyxaxe wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Onyxaxe wrote:
Does Holy Day apply to Judeo religions only though? It seems Pagans and Idolaters identify their seasons as Holy as well. It's like the Holistic health trend.

I say Happy Holidays because Christians get on my nerves in general. I am a Christian but the spirit of Evangelicalism and certain Judaic "cults" are as much an abomination as anything in modern America.


The original post doesn't really make any sense. He says he is "not offended" by "Happy Holidays" because it reinforces the "Christianness" of the season. But it doesn't really. It reinforces the nonsecular/religious aspect of the holiday season, but because other religions besides Christianity have "holy days" there is nothing specifically "Christian" about the expression "happy holidays". And that's part of why they say it. If the person's 'holy day' happens to be Hannukka instead of Christmas then you're still covered if you say "happy holidays".


Thank you. Even in saying he isn't offended he's passive aggressively saying Christians still win out. This butthead mentality contradicts the humility we're supposed to embody as followers of Christ.


Well I think there was a spark of open mindedness there, not being offended by 'happy holidays' is a big step for some people.

Not really.
If he had said "holiday equals holy days which equals religious rather than secular" I would agree with you.
But he said "holiday equal holy days which equals 'Christian'" which is both bigoted and inaccurate since other religions also have holy days.



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28 Dec 2017, 11:01 am

Onyxaxe wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Onyxaxe wrote:
rvacountrysinger wrote:
Onyxaxe wrote:
MissChess wrote:
As an atheist, I'm not offended by being wished happy holidays, merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, joyous solstice, or any other example of a seasonal midwinter greeting. You're telling me you want me to be happy and merry and joyous. I'm all for it, and I don't really care what your motivation is, I'll respond with, "Thank you, and the same to you."

I'm also not offended by Christians going off on mindless narcissistic empty-headed rants about the soi-disant War on Christmas. Stupidity irritates me, but it doesn't offend me.


You have a more patient soul than mine. Maybe it's because I'm a bisexual living in the freaking Bible Belt. People here pause to wait to see if I'm offended by their Merry CHRISTMAS after I say Happy Holidays. Only certain kinds of folks thank goodness. The old money Republicans with rooster hairdos and grandmas that pass out salvation pamphlets. You can see the tanline from their Make America Great Again caps :lol:



You seem like a very judgemental person. Look in the mirror.



It's basic deductive logic, not judgment. I see it as the spirit of discernment. Just got through doing my hair btw. I must say I enjoyed my reflection very much.


Notice how it's okay for harsh conservative minded people to talk smack about everyone but the moment you say anything about them, you get a fight on your hands? What happened to them being big strong men? :roll:

kraftiekortie wrote:
I have nothing against WASPS. There's no "war" against them.


I am just WAS because I am non-religious. I am surrounded by RBs: Redneck Baptists, the standard of the Bible Belt.


Exactly. I could add to this discussion but at this point we all know what the OP's perspective is. As far as the Redneck Baptists go, you have my sympathies lol. I feel your pain. They do their best to make it hard for us.


Thank you. Redneck Baptists are both the biggest bullies and the biggest laughing stock of humanity. They preach the most about the evils of alcohol, drugs, and sex but their communities have the highest rates of substance abuse, STDs, domestic violence, teen pregnancy, and cheating. What they are really saying is that it's bad if anyone but them does those things.



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28 Dec 2017, 10:55 pm

Marknis wrote:
Onyxaxe wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Onyxaxe wrote:
rvacountrysinger wrote:
Onyxaxe wrote:
MissChess wrote:
As an atheist, I'm not offended by being wished happy holidays, merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, joyous solstice, or any other example of a seasonal midwinter greeting. You're telling me you want me to be happy and merry and joyous. I'm all for it, and I don't really care what your motivation is, I'll respond with, "Thank you, and the same to you."

I'm also not offended by Christians going off on mindless narcissistic empty-headed rants about the soi-disant War on Christmas. Stupidity irritates me, but it doesn't offend me.


You have a more patient soul than mine. Maybe it's because I'm a bisexual living in the freaking Bible Belt. People here pause to wait to see if I'm offended by their Merry CHRISTMAS after I say Happy Holidays. Only certain kinds of folks thank goodness. The old money Republicans with rooster hairdos and grandmas that pass out salvation pamphlets. You can see the tanline from their Make America Great Again caps :lol:



You seem like a very judgemental person. Look in the mirror.



It's basic deductive logic, not judgment. I see it as the spirit of discernment. Just got through doing my hair btw. I must say I enjoyed my reflection very much.


Notice how it's okay for harsh conservative minded people to talk smack about everyone but the moment you say anything about them, you get a fight on your hands? What happened to them being big strong men? :roll:

kraftiekortie wrote:
I have nothing against WASPS. There's no "war" against them.


I am just WAS because I am non-religious. I am surrounded by RBs: Redneck Baptists, the standard of the Bible Belt.


Exactly. I could add to this discussion but at this point we all know what the OP's perspective is. As far as the Redneck Baptists go, you have my sympathies lol. I feel your pain. They do their best to make it hard for us.


Thank you. Redneck Baptists are both the biggest bullies and the biggest laughing stock of humanity. They preach the most about the evils of alcohol, drugs, and sex but their communities have the highest rates of substance abuse, STDs, domestic violence, teen pregnancy, and cheating. What they are really saying is that it's bad if anyone but them does those things.


You nailed it. I'm in Kentucky and before I got diagnosed I spent 2 weeks, on two separate occasions in a behavioral center for severe OCD. Every girl but myself and one other were from the Appalachias and victims of sexual abuse by nearly every man and/or woman they came into contact with. Add to that the drug addictions, botched abortions by angry step dads, sex trafficking, etc etc. Anyone that defends Appalachian Republican agendas is doing the devils work. They just love raping little girls and boys behind the scenes, and praising God on stage.



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29 Dec 2017, 9:49 pm

Onyxaxe wrote:
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I have nothing against WASPS. There's no "war" against them.


Agreed, 150%!
I'm a WASP, and I can attest that no one is making war on me or anyone else like me. Those of my tribe who insist they are in danger of extinction or enslavement are more upset because they're no longer the King Sh*ts alone, and have to share the benefits and rights of first class citizenship.


Wow. That was f***ing awesome of you to say. Restoring my faith in humanity here.


This, and also serious.


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09 Jan 2018, 7:51 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I have nothing against WASPS. There's no "war" against them.


Agreed, 150%!
I'm a WASP, and I can attest that no one is making war on me or anyone else like me. Those of my tribe who insist they are in danger of extinction or enslavement are more upset because they're no longer the King Sh*ts alone, and have to share the benefits and rights of first class citizenship.


You sound cucked to me.



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09 Jan 2018, 8:21 pm

That was very insulting. Why would you insult a person like that? WTF, Man?

I didn't think you were that type.



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Doesn’t WASP specifically refer to the ones who are super wealthy?


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09 Jan 2018, 8:29 pm

It refers, more, to those who have been in America longer than most. The descendants of the Pilgrims, Daughters of the American Revolution, for example.

White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. Wealth is not necessary. Lineage is.