What if America tried Australia’s gun control?

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Murder is illegal. Well if it's illegal that makes it impossible. No wonder no one ever gets murdered. 'cause it's illegal. /sarcasmWho said Trump is the new Hitler? I prefer to think of him as the new Jerry Lewis. In the unlikely event Trump attacks you with his armed forces, I doubt your rifles and handguns will have much effect on his tanks, helicopter gunships and bombers.

One of the arguments I've heard against this is that if big government ever ordered the armed forces to take people's guns, they would refuse this order as unlawful. In that case you have nothing to fear from the armed forces and no reason to fight them.

You just made a anti gun control argument. Drugs are illegal too and millions still get
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Cnn, most people on the left,Democrat politicians, people on Twitter, people in this section.

You hit them at their bases, you hit their families, pilots need to eat, poop, sleep just like everyone else. Gurilla warfare, plus half the military with their tanks, jets, and helicopters will be fighting with us along with thousands of ex special forces who are all trained in sabotage, destruction, training forces for small group tactics, ex navy seal said they could take down the us powe gride easily. It’s what they were trained to do. My friend is trained in how to set tank traps. He can train others. Watch Jericho. One episode they ambush a convy dressed as troops, they get more guns, equipment and uniforms, which enables rom to do more ambushes. Jericho season two is all about the new government betraying the people. Once the local battalion commanders found out they tore off their patches and refused to follow a corupt governments orders.
Many military members take their oath seriously, especially marines who swear a oath to the constitution not the president or government. Most marines believe the commandant won’t follow such orders. So what will government do against the marines(tanks, infantry,jets,helicopters,our enemies fear the marines more then army. Marines were under investigation for getting to many head shots so government thought they were executing people, but they were just getting ranged head shots. Then there’s Texas. Which has irs own military, it’s own power gride, it’s own gold reserves and resources. A independent spirt and the force to back it ups and such unconstitutional move will cause a civil war with Texas as the strong hold and other smalle strong holds spread out. How fast could marines secure the west coast they like the only forces on the west coast. Then their other base isn’t far from dc. But say marines break their hard core oath and follow orders to attack the citizens their family and friends we’d still have millions and millions of trained vets and 90million willing in owners. Government can’t even use its tanks, jets, or helicopters if they do they kille innocents who family will hate them and join the rebels. We’ve seen this in Vietnam,Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. it’s why we had sopuch hard roe near the end, and troops who follow won’t be killing strangers in some distant land who don’t speak English, they be killing their family, friends, neighbors who speak English, it’ll be a lot more mentally hard in them.
And who will protect their families? Honest how many will even report to duty? Bet lots and lots of police will go home to protect their family. The USA will collapse and a bunch of small countries will take its place, 4 million military forces, 320million people, 100 million gun owners. Say half fight back, 50million against say 2million troops who stay follow orders, he 2 million who don’t wilk train the 50 million. Over months the worlds largest military will form. The us government doesn’t have the forces, resources or moral to sustain a long rebellion. It’s not winnable. If it last too long the anti gun liberals will want peace at any cost. They don’t have the spirit for wars far away they won’t have it for one at their home, no food, no electricity, no Twitter, no Facebook, etc. ration lines for food and water. Death from the war will be bad but millions like my mom will die from lack of medical services. No one wants it.no one should want it anyways. Anyone who does is messed up. But we won’t just give up our freedoms. No one wins the us civil war. But who knows in time a Europe like USA with 50 nations maybe eventually become something good. Nothing last forever, nations rise and fall. Hopefully anti gun people don’t call patriots bluff cause it’s not a bluff

The Democrats can't take power from Trump using brute force. The armed forces are well over 90% conservative, meaning they would fight against a Democrat president but not against a Republican president.

Whatever the liberals do against Trump it won't be an armed revolution because they know that wouldn't work. A military coup would be an effective way to take out a Democrat president but it wouldn't work against Trump.Actually I made two anti gun control arguments. I won't ignore facts that go against my position because that would be dishonest.Can't they work in shifts? Either that or take stimulants. Those big bombers have latrines onboard.Only half? Are you suggesting that the other half would betray their principles by fighting against you? Why do you insult them?In that case why do they need you and your gun?I should hope that all marines take their oath seriously. Yes you insult the marines by suggesting that as many as half would break their oath.It's not winnable which is why it will never start. Why would start a war they know they're going to lose? But if it's never starts you'll never get to use your gun against the evil liberals. You can't say you need your gun for a war that isn't going to happen.

Or if this war does happen and everyone joins your side, then who will you be fighting against?

Freitas is good. I posted this same video on facebook a few days ago and got a lot of positive feedback on it.

The video was pathetic but I'm sure a lot of people were taken in by it.

It's obviously not guns at all.


So are you against rifles like this?




Who wants to give away guns and ammo???
As far as Tide pods are concerned I'd be happy to fill the back of my 4runner with them and hand them out at the high school parking lot to any moron stupid enough to eat one. Call it chlorinating the gene pool.

No one is eating tide pods. It's just an internet meme.

Made me cringe to see how that idiot was shooting that M4. At the range I've shut people down for s**t like that a few times when I've had RO duty because it's unsafe. Then the so called expert started with his stupidity. WFT is full semi-auto?

Trumps a democrat, was raised a democrat, friends with the Clinton’s and other democrats, he only changed to run cause they promised to run Hilary. He’s showing his true New York Democrat right now.

90% is abit high, lots of anti gun liberals join the military for free college and citizenship.
Like the one who thought he joined up in infantry to go hand out food and aid in Iraq.

Nope. Aircraft need refueling and fixing too, but regardless they won’t use helicopters or planes. They’d killed too many civilians on their side.the government would have to fight a war of winning over the people and you don’t do thst by killing them.

I’m saying at most half would. Quite a few in the military especially generals have no principles, obama got red of most who did. There’s a video where they did marshal law basically they deployed military troops as policemen which isn’t ok, when asked why they were there the troops just said following orders. Many will blindly follow orders, hopefully not as bad as German troops did.

1. Ex military people are just civilians would would have their guns taken too under these laws. 2. They are regular people not billionaires they can’t provide guns so we’d need ours until China or Russia provided us with some and yiu better believe they’d do it to get back at the us for arming the Syrian rebels.

I said half the military which is around 2million.we have around 4 million with marines,army, navy and Air Force. Including reserves. But a some marines won’t care about their oath too.

Cause they stupid and think it’s a bluff. Which they won’t find out til after they’ve gone too far. Which could be soon with the proposed laws that ban 90% of guns wnd include confiscation. Millions will become instant felons over night. I can’t even imagine the blood and panic as they try to start going door to door to collect them. But that’s the problem the anti gun people are stupid enough to try as we speak they trying.

It’ll never happen hopefully because we have our guns and they know it. But some like I said want to do it anyways, they don’t understand people won’t turn in their guns. Even th Canadians refused to do registration. He police there refused to inforce it saying they don’t want to drive up to peopl a houses and try. If they pass their laws, it’ll start in California and New York, they already have agency to do gun confiscation and being going to peopl s houses every day taking guns for years now. But currently if they aren’t let in they leave th y don’t use force, thst change under this law.

Also The Jews never thought their government would round them up and send the, to death camps, no one thought it could happen but we all found at in 1945 thst It was possible. Anything is possible.
Do you not have insurance or fire extinguisher?

I don’t want to shoot anyone. I and other gun owners just want to be left alone. We don’t start this battle for gun control, we are always on th defense.

Everyone won’t Join,mi feel you didn’t read anything said.

And, apparently, the right of anyone to own as many of whatever type of guns they want tramples my right to life. The latest mass shooter was a mentally ill teenager who was reported to the FBI for making multiple threats about being the next school shooter; however, according to the pro-gun crowd, he should have been able to acquire as many of whatever type of weapon he wanted because it was his "right." As for the "rights" of the kids he killed, f_ck 'em.

And I've already stated (numerous times) the type of guns I would like to see regulated. I'm not going to keep repeating myself while you keep screaming, "YOU WANT TO BAN ALL GUNS!! !!" And, no, you're not going to convince me that knives and sharpened sticks can cause the same amount of damage as semi and automatic weapons. Civilians don't need semi and automatic weapons, and no, private citizens owning arsenals of god-knows-what will do absolutely nothing to "fix" the government.

Not even in New York are there people going around confiscating guns.

I work in the criminal justice field.

Quite a few people in New York State have gun permits.

It obviously is. We don't have a problem with people pointing their finger at other people and killing them by yelling, "BANG!"

Yeah, yeah, of course, and forks and spoons are responsible for obesity.
Tell ya what, just copy and past gunz-r-bad into the search window and go read all of these gun control debates you want and see how they went. I intentionally added gunz-r-bad to them just so it would be easy to go back and find them for future reference. Anything I can tell you in response to your posts on this I've already said many many times before.

Likewise, I'm tired of repeating myself. Obviously, we shouldn't stop North Korea from having nukes because nukes don't kill people, people kill people.

And you're dead-set on the notion that I hate guns, and want them all banned. No, I just don't think anyone should be able to get whatever gun they want, and as many as they want, with as much ammo as they want, sans any type of oversight. I'm sorry you can't seem to tolerate any criticism of U.S. gun culture, but as the body count rises, it's going to become more prevalent.

So those people filiming themselves doing it and the tons of kids who either died or got sick are imaginary? This is the same as saying we don’t want to take your guns while at same time proposing taking our guns.

You’re more likely to be struck by lighting or win the lottery then be shot.
So yeah freedom trumps your unlikely chance of being shot. That’s how freedom works, freedom comes with risks and dangers, but you’d hate the alternative of no freedom, being told yiu can’t leave your house, what to eat, when to eat. I sing prison but worse. So yes freedom trumps any of our lives, that’s just how it is. Especially when trampling freedom of 100 millions people won’t even do a single god damn thing to make you safer. You have a 0.003125% chance if ever being shot and a 0.000156% chance of being shot in a mass shooting. But yiu have a 0.014286% chance of being struck by lighting, are you worried about that? 0.155% of a car accident. Your also more likely to be in a plane or train accident.

Those kids get the same rights as anyone else. How about you ask why he wasn’t arrested. Why he wasn’t put into nics, why he wasn’t examined by a doctor. Most mass shootings happen due to failure of government to follow proper procedures but you want to regulate more procedures they also fail to follow. f**k thst. Hold them responsible not the 100 million gun owners. Mean rally you want to remove freedoms from 100 million people. Possible make it so the 300,000 to 3 million people a year who defend themselves won’t as yiu put it habe a right to live. Your rights don’t trample mine. My right to self defense is mor important the. Younwanting to feel safer while not being any safer.

But yet the laws your support do just that. So sorry but saying you don’t want thst while supporting people and laws that donjust thst doesn’t cut it. Not any more then but I didn’t mean to kill them doesn’t cut it.

It’s not a bill of needs. But yes we f*****g need simi automatic guns.

I see no point in further discussion with you on this. You’ve been lied to and mislead and taken it in full. It’s sad, but so have many others. I hope we can still communicate on other matters, but this conversation is pointless all I can say is I’ll fight your laws every step of the way and if they get passed I’ll Jon with 60-100 millions others in fighting with force to protect our freedoms from illegal government.