The unwelcome revival of 'race science'

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I don't think anyone answered it.

Why didn't tv or a steam engine get invented before "white civilizations" existed?

What exactly was holding non-whites back? Like Africans or Chinese.

-one idea is "Capitalism" gave white people motivation
-one idea is the "Printing press" was needed for mass education

still, "whites" invented the "printing press"

Chinese Xia dynasty was 2070 BC .. What were they doing for 2070 years!! What were they doing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasties ... se_history

If they're of equal capability, then I would expect great accomplishments.

this thread has devolved even further than one could imagine, into bald ableism. as though accomplishment of technology is the only thing that matters on earth.

indicates IQ .... why hand wash your clothes, when you have the IQ to build a wash machine?

ableism. technology is just fancier mud pies in the sandbox of god's creation.

China currently outperforms predominantly white countries in STEM.

Why is China the manufacturing capital of the world? A combination of variables came together to facilitate that. The questions you ask don't have concise answers. The answers come in the form of understanding the development in the context of the historical and then contemporary environment in which the object of the question materialized.

Why assume race had anything to do with it over location? Why assume race over language? Why assume race over religion? Most white people are christian. Maybe there is something about christianity that gives a technological advantage? But probably not. These are all likely irrelevent factors.

White people invented the TV because the proper variables were in place to conceive of it and construct it and these variables include but are not limited to the culture at the time, technological understanding and manufacturing capabilities, the economic environment, world events and historical context. But for most of human history for which white people existed, Europeans were either less technologically advanced or just as technologically as people in similar climates. Asians and Middle Easterners were building great cities while Europeans were still living in tribal societies. Why? The first Europeans to develop civilizations were those within close proximity to middle easter civilizations.

Why not ask what white people were doing for all those years?

Outperforms "white countries in STEM"? What does that mean?

"Factory manufacturing" doesn't appear to be an indication of IQ.



Earlier it's said that IQ can come partially from the environment, so even if the other factors, such as geography provided an "IQ boost" ; it still seems like whites demonstrated a higher IQ for innovation.

I've seen it on IQ tests regarding levers (simple machines).

The question will ask, "Where should the fulcrum be placed to gain the best leverage?"

IQ is intelligence quotient. It's a score on a test which attemps to quantify intelligence but is only undisputably a measure of how well the individual performed on the test.

Working on a factory assembly line may require little in the way of cognition but the logistics of the industries and design of the products and processes within the larger factories constitues a complex system with various sub sections that all must properly interface.

Chinese students demonstrate greater mathematical ability and produces more STEM graduates than any other country and percentage wise more STEM graduates than predominantly white countries with the exception of Russia. Regardless, China's tech economy dwarfs Russia's. Many of my classmates un college were from China. They were very formidable.

These are English/American writers, you know them because you are an English speaking person- but English isn’t the only language that has a rich literature.

indeed, english/am writers are on the periphery for others
it's blantant in discussing also, the need to refer to (recent) american writings, lol

Yeah the ignorance is real

How much has this to do with cultural and governmental influences?
I read how the Japanese in effect forbid romantic relationships in schools so as not to distract...

BTW, I haven't seen much reference in regards to potential intelligence...
Something which can be actualised if all the planets align...

And there are also such factors as iodine deficiency which can cause mental retardation...
A simple thing such as dietary requirements can affect the effectiveness of a tribe...

And also, consider cultural factors as hyperdeveloped educational emphasis as a result of industrialisation, for example...
Countries which industrialised earlier had an added advantage...

Also, consider cultures where there was no apparent need for inventiveness because, in the cultural context, things were working with no apparent need for change...

Just sayin'...

The German language is renowned as a language of science...
And what about the Russian classics...

She would tell you all these are whites too.

What about Indian and Chinese classics? What about Japan?

Alot. There is a lot of pressure on children and young people in China to do well in school and get a good job. Due to the one child policy, many people have no siblings and will be responsible for caring for not just their own children, but their elderly parents and the elderly parents of their spouse, so pressure to succeed runs high. But that was my point. White people are not intellectually superior to non white people (native Chinese in this case). The fact that the industrial revolutions did not originate in China was not due to intellectual inferiority of the Chinese as they have more than demonstrated their skills. It was due to external factors.



You are absolutely correct. We are in agreement.

I was being autistic...
Yes I was aware it would be pointed out that they were caucies also, but a was refering to the "english" reference...
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