Erasing history, should we do it?

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Yes, the Americans, the Germans, the Russians, everybody committed atrocities. And they should be held accountable. for them. We have to seek to prevent these sorts of atrocities in the future.

The real question is: who would you want to live under?

1. Nazi Germany

2. The USSR

3. "America"

I know, for me, all things considered, I would rather live in America, without the "k."

I don't know how to take that post. My first impression is that it's yet another instance of the good ol' "Gratuitously point out something basic your interlocutor has already taken into account, to shame them by making it look like they have no clue what they're saying at all. Preferably don't even bother to try to understand their point" trick. I don't even claim to be particularly knowledgeable about World War II, but I do know the Nazis rejected "Jewish science" because of its association with Jews, and it cost them dearly, as was to be expected. Science has no race.

I remember an episode of Hogan's Heroes in which Col. Klink had accidentally drank heavy water. He sheepishly asked, "Am I going to die?"

Obviously America...
Well, more accurately, a Democracy...

I shudder to think what it was like living in Nazi Germany...
Bad enough for NTs...
But one's worst nightmare for those on the spectrum...

I recommend "School for Barbarians: Education under the Nazis" by Erika Mann, published in 1938, which I read recently. It gives you a taste of it from a dissenters point of view.

Doubt it. Berlin has fallen what would we nuked? Almost all Germany was in allied control by their surrender. Only troops in Norway and Austria remained. They were defeated months before they surrendered. No point in nuking them. Russians wouldn’t have liked being nukes alongside the Germans either.

Maybe if the bomb had been finished 6 months earlier like around the battle of the bulge they’d used it on Berlin, but German was done already by then. They knew it, we knew it. Was only a matter of time. Leader with something left to save would surrendered earlier. But Hitler and nazis has nothing to look forward to but death so why not scarifice every single German to give them another few months or year of life. They never cared for the German people anyways.

Depends are you Native American and is it the America of the 1800s cause they probably kill you. Let’s not cherry pick. Sucked to be black too.

Let’s call it the 13 states America.

Also wasn’t so great for poor whites . Yay indutured service I’m technically free man but inndebt to the company who’ll kill me if I try to leave.

We rounded up people into camps and walked them to desth, mass killed entire tribes(nations) sure we didn’t have a gas chamber but gas didn’t exist yet. If it hadn’t I could see us having used it. We also approved of killing the disabled people.

Every nation on this planet has its bad hisotry no one’s hands are clean. We aren’t responsible for past atrocities but I certainly won’t let them be erased or forgotten. USA did some horrible things that under current law would seen us having a Nuremberg trial for our leaders and generals just like nazis had. If the nazis has done what hey did 100 years earlier no one would have cared and just seen it as war as usual. Nations would wipe out their enemy and kill millions then repopulate the area with their people all the time. Huns wiped out whole civilizations for fun on a whim. They’re leave one building in tact so others would know what happen.

Thank god we live today where such things are condemned like what Isis is doing(they’re using the old rule book most of us threw out)

Yes, I was referring to earlier in the war if America had had the bomb prior to the time the had actually developed fat man and little boy.
Incidentally, when a psychological profile on Hitler had been written up, it was determined he would eventually commit suicide in the middle of a Gotterdammerung of his own making.

The allies decided not to kill hitler cause he was horrible for the war effort. If we’d taken out Berlin someone sane and better at war tactics would have taken over.
I dont know what Gotterdammerung is.
And they were right, if not for hitler they’d had full air force of jet fighters and very infantry soldier with an assault rifle. Hitler disliked both he only wants what they had when he served. Good old bolt action rifle and propellor planes. Stg44 had to be hidden as a SMg to get produced and issued without hitler knowing delaying its adoption by years. He want d super weapons too and so wasted funding on them. Stuff like the tiger tank that broke down more then it died in combat. More panzer tanks would helped the war effort. Smaller, faster good armored and quick per to make, how bout pulling troops to capture oil fields instead if putting the final blow into Moscow, or the invasion of Russia to begin with. Battle of the bulge, another blunder by hitler, or the delaying armor units from pushing the allies back in dday(would had a different outcome if they didn’t require direct orders from hitler) he micro manage the whole military himself. So did his generals. The subs were sank and code broke because they raidioed each sub often rather then leaving command decisions up to the sub commander. Hitler had good generals and officers but they were allowed to do anything with out his say or anything he disagreeed with like say tactical withdraws, Germans do not surrender or retreat hitler said. Good way to lose man power in pointless batttles. Hitler goes down in military history as what not to do. The earlier successes were organized by the military m hitler then took credit and actually believed he did it and that’s when he started micro managering it. Our president gave general orders and our military then planned the battles. Imagine if trump or obama planne every military operation we did. Neither are skilled in military tactics. It’d be a disaster. Hitler cut off his military’s legs. Thank good for that. Stalin while would purge his generals left military strategy to them. Once they got too popular he’d just purge them. Looking at North Korea’s military blunders, I bet Kim is also micro managing his military. Another reason war for them would be a disaster. If you can’t cook stay out of th kitchen and let those who can , cook.

I thought the same when I was younger until I researched...
Once again, I am not defending Hitler...
I am respecting the historic truth...

The following might help you understand the zeigeist:

There was a German saying nearing the end of the war:
"Enjoy the war. The peace will be dreadful."

The Morgenthau Plan was released to the public giving Goebbels perfect propaganda material to extend the war:





And then there was this goose:

The Gotterdammerung was the same as Ragnarok - that is, the Norse/Germanic end of the world, complete with raging fires, dreadful monsters, and the death of the old gods. Wagner used the term in his Ring Cycle operas, dealing with the hero Siegfried, who had been the Germanic Heracles/Samson/Gilgamesh, which Hitler was a keen student of.

Good point...