What if Jews actually did control the world?

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24 Mar 2018, 5:02 pm

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It's not "the Jews". Though Jews are the most privileged ethnic group in the world by a mile. Israeli lobby groups have masses of power in numerous countries. Zionist Jews have a lot of power. If Jews are against Israel they can be banned from Israel and they will be pretty much shunned in the media.


Privileged is an individual thing. A Jew is more likely to be privilaged in America. That does not not make the individual Jew automatically privilaged.


They are a tiny percentage of the population yet have high positions in banking and all money institutions, Hollywood, universities, media and lobby groups. But someone like Norman Finkelstein who is critical of Israel is banned from Israel and lost his tenure.

Can you name another ethnic group that has the right to have someone else's home bulldozed down so a new one can be built for them in someone else's country?


The Jews returned to Israel after being forced out by Muslim violence. Jews being successful is nothing to do with privilege its do with their culture valuing education and not demonising money.


Zionist leaders put pressure on to get Jews to 'return' to Israel. Not sure why you support Israel when it was founded on terrorism against the British.


Israel bulldozes dwellings for the same reason other countries do or would. The structures were unauthorized or violated zoning or code ordinances. The reason you hear about more houses being bulldozed in Israel because people build houses where they know they have not been given permission to, because they feel entitled to build there. Many of the houses that have been bulldozed are actually the houses of orthodox jews. Just recently where I am in the U.S. the city destroyed a tent city but if they were houses they would have bulldozed them. They make people tear down any unpermitted structure and if they don't they will do it for them.


That's absolute tripe. The houses have been there for ages. When the Zionist terrorist colonisers took control of Palestine they moved Jewish immigrants into the homes of Palestinians when the coffee was still warm on the table. They bulldoze Palestinians homes to build racial colonies in their place or put in racial roads.

In some cases when bulldozing has been done as "punishment", elderly residents or disabled residents have still been inside the house when Israel bulldozed down the homes. After the 2014 massacre in Gaza, some of the soldiers have their account. They talked about how the bulldozers went "back and forth", destroying one home, "back and forth" another home, "back and forth" a whole village, "back and forth", another village.


No it's not tripe. Israel absolutely bulldozes homes and evicts people, even Israeli jewish ones, from land for the reasons I stated. That fact is often omitted by people who would like you to believe that Israel only bulldozes Palestinian homes and only as retribution or an act of war or terrorism. Israel extends their policy of bulldozing homes to any structure they deem illegal whether or not Palestinians are disproportionately affected, intentionally targeted, or singled out.

Here is Israel bulldozing homes of jewish settlers built illegally on Palestinian owned land.

Israel bulldozes Ofra Settlement homes.

Israel bulldozes jewish settlement.

Are Israel's home wrecking policies deplorable? Absolutely. Israel has many policies which are objectionable and some of them affect Palestinians and some of the affect Israelis, even jewish ones.

But this thread is not about Israel. It's about jews and jews and Israel are not synonymous.

The OP wanted to know what the world would be like if it were ruled by jews, and appropriately, the answer to that is another question; "Which ones?"



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24 Mar 2018, 6:31 pm

They bulldozed those homes because they were done without state approval, not because they care about the rights of the Palestinians. With the cases of bulldozing Palestinian homes, they do it because they want to build the racial colonies etc.


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24 Mar 2018, 10:43 pm

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They bulldozed those homes because they were done without state approval, not because they care about the rights of the Palestinians. With the cases of bulldozing Palestinian homes, they do it because they want to build the racial colonies etc.


Exactly. They were built illegaly, supporting my claim. They bulldoze Israeli homes built illegally and they bulldoze Palestinian homes built illegally.

They also bulldoze homes of the families of accused terrorists/militants who have attacked or conspired against the state. So far these have been Palestinian homes but if some jewish Israeli sect started attacking Israel they would probably have their homes bulldozed as well.

I should point out, regardless of how the Israeli Palestinian conflict started and who is responsible, it would not have occurred in previous times because until recently in history it was considered perfectly acceptable to completely annihilate one's enemy and sell the survivors in to slavery. The ancestors of contemporary humanity would find the Israeli Palestinian situation absolutely insane given that Israel could theoretically wipe Palestinians out.

Anyway if the rest of the world turned their backs, Israel and Palestine would both try to annihilate one another I'm sure. It's a shame they can't get along.



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25 Mar 2018, 2:55 am

DNA is a more accurate history book than the Bible, and it shows the Bible is false and the Zionist’s
claim of Jews as one race is false; and the Bible’s claim that the extermination of native Canaanites is false too.

Israel was founded on a false history.



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25 Mar 2018, 3:31 am

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DNA is a more accurate history book than the Bible, and it shows the Bible is false and the Zionist’s
claim of Jews as one race is false; and the Bible’s claim that the extermination of native Canaanites is false too.

Israel was founded on a false history.


I know one thing. The black Lemba of southern Africa share customs and Y haplogroups in common with the white Ashkenazi of Europe and that Y haplogroup that they have in common is the haplogroup attributed to the Kohanim, the priestly class of jews.

At one point, there were Israelites in Israel and at some point, some of their descendants, genetically and religiously, ended up as white people in Europe, and some of them ended up as black people in southern Africa.

As for the people in Israel/Palestine today, I think everyone born there and raised there should have a right to call that region their home.



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25 Mar 2018, 4:28 am

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DNA is a more accurate history book than the Bible, and it shows the Bible is false and the Zionist’s
claim of Jews as one race is false; and the Bible’s claim that the extermination of native Canaanites is false too.

Israel was founded on a false history.


I know one thing. The black Lemba of southern Africa share customs and Y haplogroups in common with the white Ashkenazi of Europe and that Y haplogroup that they have in common is the haplogroup attributed to the Kohanim, the priestly class of jews.

At one point, there were Israelites in Israel and at some point, some of their descendants, genetically and religiously, ended up as white people in Europe, and some of them ended up as black people in southern Africa.

As for the people in Israel/Palestine today, I think everyone born there and raised there should have a right to call that region their home.



...and the Irish people has an ancient Middle Eastern ancestry too.



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At one point, there were Israelites in Israel and at some point, some of their descendants, genetically and religiously, ended up as white people in Europe, and some of them ended up as black people in southern Africa


and the ancestors of Israelites were...?



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25 Mar 2018, 7:07 am

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At one point, there were Israelites in Israel and at some point, some of their descendants, genetically and religiously, ended up as white people in Europe, and some of them ended up as black people in southern Africa


and the ancestors of Israelites were...?


Possibly Mesopotamians but things get very obscure. I think the story of Adam and Eve goes back a lot farther than people think and might very well represent an account of the transition of humans from hunter gatherer societies to agrarian societies.



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25 Mar 2018, 7:37 am

And all that is so important because … otherwise we might accidentally get along or something?


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25 Mar 2018, 8:03 am

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Well, I guess Israel is actually controlled by the Jews.
Been there. Talked to people there. Lots of different agendas, ideologies, political parties fighting each other.
What if the whole world looked like this? Oh, wait....


Some say that "Israel is controlled by the US". So arguably Jews don't even run Israel!



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25 Mar 2018, 8:06 am

But the Jews control the US, don’t they? Then they do control Israel!


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25 Mar 2018, 8:21 am

Well.. the two mythic notions are (a) modern Jews of the diaspora (the wide world far from Israel) came from ancient Judea, and (b) even in ancient Judea in Biblical times the Hebrews were already some kind of distinct race-separate even from other middle eastern people.

Modern DNA analysis actually supports the first thing, but refutes the later.

Jews, in say Russia, are indeed quite distinct genetically from their gentile Russian neighbors. Further, Jews in places like Russia, or South Africa, do have DNA markers that show an origin "in the Levant region (the eastern shore of the Mediterranean)". Russian Jews are not descended from Slavic Russians who converted to Judaism, but do for the most part have ancestry in the region of the "Holy Land".

So Jews really are Jews ( ie tend to have actual ancestry in or near ancient Judea).

But on the flip side Jews (even Jews of the diaspora) are NOT distinct from modern middle eastern people. Just like the Hebrew language has obvious kinship with Arabic, and Aramaic, and other Semitic languages, the Jewish people have many genes in common with modern Arabs. In fact they are especially close kin to the Palestinian Arabs. In the words of Italian researcher Luca Cavallli-Sforza "the conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians is the genetic equivalent of a civil war." Brother against brother!



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25 Mar 2018, 8:24 am

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But the Jews control the US, don’t they? Then they do control Israel!


Dang!

You got me there.

The tail wags the dog...that wags the tail. I suppose. Lol!



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25 Mar 2018, 12:49 pm

Chronos wrote:
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At one point, there were Israelites in Israel and at some point, some of their descendants, genetically and religiously, ended up as white people in Europe, and some of them ended up as black people in southern Africa


and the ancestors of Israelites were...?


Possibly Mesopotamians but things get very obscure. I think the story of Adam and Eve goes back a lot farther than people think and might very well represent an account of the transition of humans from hunter gatherer societies to agrarian societies.


I very much concur.


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25 Mar 2018, 2:40 pm

Chronos wrote:
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They bulldozed those homes because they were done without state approval, not because they care about the rights of the Palestinians. With the cases of bulldozing Palestinian homes, they do it because they want to build the racial colonies etc.


Exactly. They were built illegaly, supporting my claim. They bulldoze Israeli homes built illegally and they bulldoze Palestinian homes built illegally.

They also bulldoze homes of the families of accused terrorists/militants who have attacked or conspired against the state. So far these have been Palestinian homes but if some jewish Israeli sect started attacking Israel they would probably have their homes bulldozed as well.

I should point out, regardless of how the Israeli Palestinian conflict started and who is responsible, it would not have occurred in previous times because until recently in history it was considered perfectly acceptable to completely annihilate one's enemy and sell the survivors in to slavery. The ancestors of contemporary humanity would find the Israeli Palestinian situation absolutely insane given that Israel could theoretically wipe Palestinians out.

Anyway if the rest of the world turned their backs, Israel and Palestine would both try to annihilate one another I'm sure. It's a shame they can't get along.


No it doesn't. Israel have no right to bulldoze any homes in land that is recognised occupied Palestinian land under International Law.

They also have no right to do that but they are in good company by doing that. The only other two regimes that have done that was Iraq under Saddam and Nazi Germany.

Israel won't just wipe the Palestinians out because they still have to try to be seen as the victims. They want to make life such hell that the Palestinians just give up.

Haha. You are making it sound like it's some 50/50 battle. Israel has hundreds of nukes and gets $10 million a day from the US and is sold major weapons by the US and UK.


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25 Mar 2018, 2:43 pm

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But the Jews control the US, don’t they? Then they do control Israel!


Dang!

You got me there.

The tail wags the dog...that wags the tail. I suppose. Lol!


Very much looking forward to the new Al Jazeera documentary about the Israeli lobby in the US. It's meant to be explosive. Israel are trying desperately to stop it from coming out.


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