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29 May 2018, 11:02 am

Try The Secret Barrister

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-tommy-robinson/amp/?__twitter_impression=true



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29 May 2018, 11:09 am

I Just don't trust the government to decide which trials can and cannot be reported on, its a power that is clearly open to abuse. These gangs have been covered up for decades I do not for one minute buy that it was because they were afraid of being called racist. There had to be powerful people also linked to it in order to cover up such widespread abuse for so long.



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29 May 2018, 11:18 am

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I Just don't trust the government to decide which trials can and cannot be reported on


That is not what the government do. It is UK law that detail of ongoing court cases cannot be reported on by the media until that detail is revealed in court



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29 May 2018, 11:19 am

It was already revealed in local papers though.



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29 May 2018, 11:56 am

Daniel89 wrote:
It was already revealed in local papers though.


Revealed can be quite different to dishing out info that makes them in contempt of court



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29 May 2018, 12:05 pm

I do wonder now if what I was considering earlier might come to fruition - ie. that if he's blown his credibility with this someone else or several someone elses might stand in.

It could be that Douglas Murray and Maajid Nawaz w Quilliam might fill the gaps going forward albeit I think they'd continue to do it in their own way which is sticking to public debate forum, editorials, etc.


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29 May 2018, 12:09 pm

I hope so the growing Muslim population really worries me. 47% of Brits support a ban on Muslim immigration I think if people knew more about Islam it would be much higher. I doubt that even 47% of people know that Muhammad married and raped a child.



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29 May 2018, 5:01 pm

This is the kind of thing I was getting at with alt/youtube media:


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29 May 2018, 7:50 pm

Biscuitman wrote:
Try The Secret Barrister

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-tommy-robinson/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


I just came to post this link ^ but was too slow


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29 May 2018, 8:18 pm

This guy is funny af


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29 May 2018, 9:11 pm

Some additional info:

He got whisked off to court within four hours, the police told his lawyer that he'd been released and accordingly he was stuck with a public defender. Not sure what that was all about.


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30 May 2018, 3:40 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Some additional info:

He got whisked off to court within four hours, the police told his lawyer that he'd been released and accordingly he was stuck with a public defender. Not sure what that was all about.


That's just more fake news pushed by his supporters unfortunately. We don't even have 'public defenders' in England & Wales. He was represented by a criminal barrister.



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30 May 2018, 3:55 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Some additional info:

He got whisked off to court within four hours, the police told his lawyer that he'd been released and accordingly he was stuck with a public defender. Not sure what that was all about.


The judge who sentenced him was also seen laughing watching it which I think means he should not have been the judge on that conviction.



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30 May 2018, 3:57 am

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This guy is funny af



A Briton is more British than a non Briton.



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30 May 2018, 4:07 am

Daniel89 wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Some additional info:

He got whisked off to court within four hours, the police told his lawyer that he'd been released and accordingly he was stuck with a public defender. Not sure what that was all about.


The judge who sentenced him was also seen laughing watching it which I think means he should not have been the judge on that conviction.


The judge didn't convict him of anything on Friday, he re-sentenced him to a custodial sentence from a non custodial sentence based on a conviction Robinson already received from a different judge in 2017



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30 May 2018, 5:46 am

Biscuitman wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Some additional info:

He got whisked off to court within four hours, the police told his lawyer that he'd been released and accordingly he was stuck with a public defender. Not sure what that was all about.


That's just more fake news pushed by his supporters unfortunately. We don't even have 'public defenders' in England & Wales. He was represented by a criminal barrister.

I'm not sure that came out the way you wanted it to.

The term public defender in the US, possibly some other countries as well, is a free attorney provided by the state to a defendant who doesn't have his or her own attorney or doesn't have the funds to get one. If it's just a mix up of names or terminology (ie. barrister vs. public defender) for roles that have identical agency and limitations that probably doesn't mean much, OTOH if they serve very different functions or if barristers have a great deal of power that defense attorneys in the US don't have that's probably worth saying a bit more about.


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