Why do poor right wingers worship an orange cheeto?

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Hold on now! When did I ever call you stupid, or said I hated you?

Never heard anything about Obama visiting President Bush the day 911 happened. Is that supposed to be a trick question?

Many poor Trump supporters take personal responsibility for being poor.

"I'm poor, and it's my fault".

Yeap, those people are very stupid

You can find stupid people everywhere you look with every belief system. Explain why Asian people on average seem to be so successful, what qualities can you link to their high success rate in the US? Personal responsibility is a huge factor, it would be ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Their are a lot of factors involved to lower the success rate for people, in general is mostly concentrated around; lack of effort, not having a mom & dad within the same home, poorly ran government funded public education, poor choice in degree's that will have no benefit in the work place, irresponsibility(blowing your money like a moron), poor choices made in your life, disabilities, and the list continues...

Simply look at this, if you are born into wealth, work hard and obtain a good education, you have and extremely high probability of being well into the middle class. What does that highlight? Hard work and good education is the key to success(Ironically the same is true for poor Asians). Though I will point out that if you are creative or skilled enough in a particular area and simply work hard and don't settle for low paying jobs, your success rate will also be very high.

Even people with disabilities can make it with these three factors, work hard, don't settle for low pay, have a good education. That doesn't mean all people with disabilities will be successful, some people are crippled by there disabilities, like me. But, If I weren't so nervous around people I would have 100% made it well into the middle class because I am a very hard worker and I had a skill that would allow me to start my own pool business and very possible profit over 100k a year. That is even with a very poor education, my disability of extreme discomfort around people is the only reason I am not successful.

I have worked with many people, the thing that greatly sticks out is how your average person that is poor is more than likely slack, they mess everything up, they are not responsible and they are there simply to collect their check and do the bare minimum.

You say that about trump supporters/voters all the tome. I support trump I voted for him and I’ll vote again for him in 2020. So when you say those things about trump supports you are saying them about me.

OUCH!

I got lucky...
I had good people around me...
And now I am financially independent...

Like I said, I got lucky...
I could have easily been on welfare my entire life because I had serious psychological and neurological challenges when I was young...

While I agree that there seems to be a pervasive attitude of entitlement here in Oz, there are many/most who simply had a bad hand dealt to them...

You can't answer this, but what is the proportion of people who are taking advantage of the social structure as opposed to those who "should" be given some slack because of their relative handicaps?

Doesn't it really boil down to attitude?

It's actually very common for people to take advantage of the welfare state here, to such a degree that they had to place restrictions on how many children you can have while on welfare, that limit is now 3. I would say if you are on welfare should only be able to have one if you don't already have kids. There are people with legitimate issues and there are people who are lazy and try to cheat the welfare system. It's hard to say what percentage cheats it, I suspect a lot though.

(You get more $$ for every child you have so people would produce a lot of children while they were already on welfare, generally single mom's also)

So do they kill kids when you’re over 3?
Thought conservatives were anti abortion 0.o

League Girl's version of how to stop being poor as a person with a disability:

Finish high school

Work for a year

Get on Social security

Work seven years.

Get on SSDI.

Get married and make sure your partner is disabled too and have them get on SSDI.

Have children and put them on Social Security.

Congratulations, you are no longer poor. We did it. (does the Dora dance)

No, they don't give you money for extra kids when you pass 3. Take note, it applies for having kids while on welfare, if you have 5 kids then you have bad luck and get on welfare, you will get paid for all 5 kids. If you are on welfare and have 5 kids you only get paid for 3. (As far as I know)

Also, I lean slightly right, I support early abortion.

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Wow, so you have kids to get money? Way to cheat the system. Crimadella's version, don't have kids unless you can work and support them without government hand outs, the government isn't here to support your future family.

I actually have a heart and try to be responsible, being I can't afford to give my children the best opportunities, I haven't had any. I would not desire to raise children to live in poverty. Children have way less chances of escaping poverty without good parents to correctly guide them and afford to send them to good schools.

Warner Robins, Ga...
So you are a septic tank...
What you said could have been from someone from Oz...

I am not sure if there are restrictions on the number of children on welfare here in Australia, but everything you mentioned applies here also...

In the mid 70's I created a saying: "Go into labour with Labor" because the left-wing party introduced pensions for single women (overwhelmingly predominantly)...
And we working bunnies had to pay for their indulgence...
This caused enormous social dysfunction including crime when the kids grew up in a poor single-parent pensioner household and saw the inequity of their lifestyle...

Gough Whitlam introduced it 1973, ostensibly to help single women initially, which it did, but the unintended consequence was to produce human "puppy" farms where children were produced to gain more and more money from the single parent pension...I.E. from taxpayers...
It also exacerbated the: "Children having children" phenomenon"...

The irony of this thread is that here in Australia, at least, the left-wing government set up a system which de-intellectualised people by disincentivising individuals to engage in further education because of their parental responsibilities...
The policy did create a dependency on the welfare hugging political left...
If I were cynical, I might speculate that this was the intended consequence...
I am a cynical person, btw...

Damn, it is so hard *not* to rag on the political left...

As a balance: The conservative parties deserve the inevitable loss of power in the next election due to their infighting and resistance to the banking royal commission...
What a bunch of ding dongs...

That would be a very practical and rational solution, keeping overpopulation in mind...
Would be a good source of "soylent green"...