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01 Jun 2019, 8:32 am

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Probably Satan was enabling you guys to find a rational explanation. We all know that rationalism is bad, anyway...

That makes perfect sense!
... wait, if something makes sense it drives us dangerously close to rationalism... it's a trap!


The key to all of this is to not think too much or too deeply about anything. Just blindly go along with whatever is said.

Smile vacantly and nod your head.



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01 Jun 2019, 8:33 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
magz wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
Probably Satan was enabling you guys to find a rational explanation. We all know that rationalism is bad, anyway...

That makes perfect sense!
... wait, if something makes sense it drives us dangerously close to rationalism... it's a trap!


The key to all of this is to not think too much or too deeply about anything. Just blindly go along with whatever is said.

Smile vacantly and nod your head.

It's... painful!


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01 Jun 2019, 8:35 am

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Do you use the word “redd?” It’s an older word that basically means “to clean.”


Probably Scandinavian in origin. On its own it's kind of ambiguous in it's meaning, but it's found as a suffix to many words having to do with order i.e. "förbereda" (prepare), "redogöra" (explain/describe), "Oreda" (mess).

("redd" would seem to be the past tense of "reda".)


It’s used around here in a way that means “to straighten up.” We wouldn’t use it when we’re talking about scrubbing the bathroom. It means to pick stuff up and organize.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/redd



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01 Jun 2019, 8:39 am

Buying something “off of” someone is something I’ve heard in peoples’ speech.

I believe “redd” is not used alone. It’s used in the verb phrase “redd up.”

I have a vague memory of hearing that phrase in my childhood.



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01 Jun 2019, 8:43 am

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Buying something “off of” someone is something I’ve heard in peoples’ speech.

I believe “redd” is not used alone. It’s used in the verb phrase “redd up.”

I have a vague memory of hearing that phrase in my childhood.


I always hear or say “redd up” or “redd off.”

My house is messy and company is coming over, so I have to redd up (or do some redding up).

I have to redd off the table because it’s covered in paperwork.



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01 Jun 2019, 8:48 am

Whenever I participate in a thread, it goes completely off topic...



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01 Jun 2019, 8:50 am

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Whenever I participate in a thread, it goes completely off topic...

That's because you jinx the thread!


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01 Jun 2019, 8:58 am

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Whenever I participate in a thread, it goes completely off topic...

In this case it's probably for the better. It's not a topic people have any genuine curiosity about and, as far as I can tell, its largely because if what they think it is (superstition and bluster) isn't the complete truth then they're forced out of line with social conformity and there's no scarier blood-drinking deity I can think of than Conformitas.


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01 Jun 2019, 9:04 am

magz wrote:
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Whenever I participate in a thread, it goes completely off topic...

That's because you jinx the thread!


Maybe I have!

I’m one of those sorts of people who has a disproportionate amount of negative experiences.

Some people seemed to live charmed lives, but most fall in the average category.

Wherever I go, I leave a trail of turbulence and destruction behind me. That might be a slight exaggeration, but you get the idea.

I love the idea of magic and fantasy. I can never get enough Tolkien, and I used to make my own stories and even had a fairy figurine collection. I like the escape that such things can provide and find fantasy preferable to the real world. Of course, I don’t believe in magic, but I wish I did and that it was real.



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01 Jun 2019, 9:11 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
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Whenever I participate in a thread, it goes completely off topic...

In this case it's probably for the better. It's not a topic people have any genuine curiosity about and, as far as I can tell, its largely because if what they think it is (superstition and bluster) isn't the complete truth then they're forced out of line with social conformity and there's no scarier blood-drinking deity I can think of than Conformitas.


I think it’s an extremely interesting topic.



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01 Jun 2019, 9:23 am

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I think it’s an extremely interesting topic.

Twilightprincess wrote:
I love the idea of magic and fantasy. I can never get enough Tolkien, and I used to make my own stories and even had a fairy figurine collection. I like the escape that such things can provide and find fantasy preferable to the real world. Of course, I don’t believe in magic, but I wish I did and that it was real.

That's fantasy-fiction literature, different topic.


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01 Jun 2019, 9:28 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
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I think it’s an extremely interesting topic.

Twilightprincess wrote:
I love the idea of magic and fantasy. I can never get enough Tolkien, and I used to make my own stories and even had a fairy figurine collection. I like the escape that such things can provide and find fantasy preferable to the real world. Of course, I don’t believe in magic, but I wish I did and that it was real.

That's fantasy-fiction literature, different topic.


It’s not a different discussion entirely.

Some magical practices and beliefs have inspired and informed various pieces of fantasy fiction (especially the Harry Potter series).



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01 Jun 2019, 9:33 am

By the way I put a curse on Game of Thrones. I'm the reason that the show's final season sucked so much.

What? You really think that Game of Thrones was tired of being a popular show? Wrong baby! I was tired of it! :twisted:


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01 Jun 2019, 9:38 am

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
By the way I put a curse on Game of Thrones. I'm the reason that the show's final season sucked so much.

What? You really think that Game of Thrones was tired of being a popular show? Wrong baby! I was tired of it! :twisted:


Now we know who is to blame!

I thought that I was the guilty one since I never watched it.



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01 Jun 2019, 10:05 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
It’s not a different discussion entirely.

Some magical practices and beliefs have inspired and informed various pieces of fantasy fiction (especially the Harry Potter series).

Maybe to some degree, and there might be perhaps be some more recent authors who've written characters who are in western mystery traditions and who studied those traditions in depth to give their character a realistic experience of them.

The topic is actual people practicing in 2019 and what they would or wouldn't do or deem credible (and to the OP's question effectively of 'Hasn't reductive materialism debunked all this?'), not fictional characters or Harry Potter magic which has never existed other than in fiction and maybe a few embarrassing spots in the early Renaissance.


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