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30 Oct 2019, 12:08 pm

Didn't a lot of British people hate Margaret Thatcher?



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30 Oct 2019, 12:11 pm

They didn't like her because she was a Conservative----and she took away many entitlements.

She was considered a "very tough" woman.



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30 Oct 2019, 12:12 pm

a lot of 'em hated her guts, yes. a lot of amuuurican righties of the 80s gave her grudging respect. she had to put out a PR video of her being nice to animals.



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30 Oct 2019, 12:26 pm

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True.

But at least Warren and Biden aren't Hillary Clinton.

People hated her for just being a Clinton. And for being HILLARY Clinton. And for being a woman running for President, too. A combination.


Bull!! !! They hate her because she is one of the most evil and sadistic creatures ever to walk the earth. She's Nazi/Stalinist level evil. Liberals are so oblivious.


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30 Oct 2019, 1:06 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
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True. But at least Warren and Biden aren't Hillary Clinton. People hated her for just being a Clinton. And for being HILLARY Clinton. And for being a woman running for President, too. A combination.
Bull!! ! ! They hate her because she is one of the most evil and sadistic creatures ever to walk the earth. She's Nazi/Stalinist level evil. Liberals are so oblivious.
Hillary Clinton: Mother of Chelsea and wife of Bill. Raised in Park Ridge, Illionois. Graduated from Wellesley College with a Political Science major. A lawyer. Campaigned for George McGovern.

With so much more to hate, why settle for only "evil and sadistic"?


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30 Oct 2019, 1:13 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
They didn't like her because she was a Conservative----and she took away many entitlements.

She was considered a "very tough" woman.


Women in politics have to be twice as ruthless as men in order to be taken half as seriously, right?



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30 Oct 2019, 1:59 pm

It's not that bad any more.



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30 Oct 2019, 4:22 pm

Fnord wrote:
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kraftiekortie wrote:
True. But at least Warren and Biden aren't Hillary Clinton. People hated her for just being a Clinton. And for being HILLARY Clinton. And for being a woman running for President, too. A combination.
Bull!! ! ! They hate her because she is one of the most evil and sadistic creatures ever to walk the earth. She's Nazi/Stalinist level evil. Liberals are so oblivious.
Hillary Clinton: Mother of Chelsea and wife of Bill. Raised in Park Ridge, Illionois. Graduated from Wellesley College with a Political Science major. A lawyer. Campaigned for George McGovern.

With so much more to hate, why settle for only "evil and sadistic"?


She's a mass murderer and close friends with child rapists.


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30 Oct 2019, 4:26 pm

John, you're preaching to the choir. Hillary is Bad News no matter how you look at her (which some of us would really rather not).


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30 Oct 2019, 6:58 pm

Idk, Hillary's pretty great. A real trailblazer. I think this whole "she's a horrible person" thing is in part an illustration of the misogyny she's had to face. Obama was accused of being African, Clinton was accused of being an extension of her husband.



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30 Oct 2019, 7:02 pm

Well, sir, I still wouldn’t vote for her, if only for what I see as a lack of real concern for the common people — i.e., those who cannot afford one of her 1000-dollar per plate dinner rallies.


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30 Oct 2019, 7:07 pm

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Well, sir, I still wouldn’t vote for her, if only for what I see as a lack of real concern for the common people — i.e., those who cannot afford one of her 1000-dollar per plate dinner rallies.


I think she lost any chance of winning over votes from Trump supporters when she called them all "deplorables". What a stupid thing to do.



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30 Oct 2019, 7:23 pm

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Well, sir, I still wouldn’t vote for her, if only for what I see as a lack of real concern for the common people — i.e., those who cannot afford one of her 1000-dollar per plate dinner rallies.

I don't see why someone would go to such lengths to come up with policies that would benefit the common people (at the expense of big-money donors, nonetheless) unless they actually intended to help the common people. Her autism policy, for example, was exactly the sort of thing that would lose her votes with the "Autism Speaks" crowd.

It's true that she had a big image problem, but if you don't think Clinton cares about ordinary people then I don't think you'll ever be satisfied by a politician. May as well pick the best of a bad bunch?



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30 Oct 2019, 7:27 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
... if you don't think Clinton cares about ordinary people then I don't think you'll ever be satisfied by a politician. May as well pick the best of a bad bunch?
I’ll put it this way: Instead of voting for her or him, I wrote in my own name and voted for myself. After all, the only wasted vote is the vote not cast.


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31 Oct 2019, 8:09 am

The_Walrus wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Well, sir, I still wouldn’t vote for her, if only for what I see as a lack of real concern for the common people — i.e., those who cannot afford one of her 1000-dollar per plate dinner rallies.

I don't see why someone would go to such lengths to come up with policies that would benefit the common people (at the expense of big-money donors, nonetheless) unless they actually intended to help the common people. Her autism policy, for example, was exactly the sort of thing that would lose her votes with the "Autism Speaks" crowd.

It's true that she had a big image problem, but if you don't think Clinton cares about ordinary people then I don't think you'll ever be satisfied by a politician. May as well pick the best of a bad bunch?


Yeah those autism speaks lobbyists basically control the US political system.

I'm not sure if you're intentionally trolling or have some parallel universe in mind but this is unacceptable. I've made it clear that this woman invited a child rapist to her daughter's wedding. She helped murder millions of people in Iraq and burned American children alive. She went after her husband's rape victims and she and her husband travelled to another child rapist's rape island on numerous occasions. She laughed about getting the sentence of a child rapist reduced. She called half the country deplorables and called black people super predators.

She got her friends in the media to give Trump attention so he would be nominated so she could win easily. But she lost!! To a f**king game show host and then has pushed conspiracy theories about it being Russia and has now called an army veteran and current at major a "Russian asset".


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31 Oct 2019, 8:20 am

John, If you have iron-clad evidence to back up those claims, then you're my hero.

But if instead this turns out to be just another "all the evidence is missing, which proves that it exists" type of thing, then the line forms to the left (no pun intended).


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