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Make the rich pay their taxes, and that would certainly cover a good sized percentage.

It strikes me that this is just an outright lie, a deliberate deception.

I guess you could argue that some poor people get to use another family member's insurance, but Sanders doesn't want to abolish Medicare, quite the opposite.

On the other hand, your preferred candidate, Trump, does want poor people to pay for their healthcare. Or put it another way, Trump wants poor people to pay for rich people's tax cuts.

Go on, I'm sure you can substantiate this claim. You know, supposing you're not just making s**t up.

Right now, very poor people can get free Medicaid or ACA-fully subsidized health care.

Sander's plan is to raise taxes on these people with a new individual health care tax AND create a new employer health care tax on an employee's wages (which is effectively another tax on an individual).

So, these people go from FREE to SUBSTANTIALLY TAXED.

So...you're saying that people who currently get free healthcare (Medicaid) will actually have less money in their pockets under a Bernie administration than they do now and in effect, with a new Bernie tax, they'll be paying for healthcare rather than being free????

Well, we only have generalities from him.

It looks like lately he won't even say how he plans to pay for it.

However, based on his previous statements that he will make new health care taxes on working people, presumably, this would apply to all working people.

So, working Medicaid and ACA-fully subsidized poor people would be worse off.

According to Pete Buttigieg, a Sanders opponent, Sanders has said he will only raise taxes on people earning over $29,000. This is comfortably above the poverty line.

I don’t like Sanders but the thing about bad politicians is that you don’t need to make up bad things about them.

$29,000 per year is a VERY low salary in most areas of the United States.

The official poverty-line figure for a family of 4 in the United states is $25,750. A person making $15 an hour (the minimum wage in a few places) working a 40-hour week make $31,200 a year.

Even if you believe this.

He plans to raise taxes on employers for an employee's wages.

So he is raising taxes on people below $29,000 as that will affect their compensation.

If you live in New York City, $29,000 a year with two children is a joke. You can't live on that, unless you're subsidized on some way.

At $29,000 a year, people are still eligible for the "earned income credit." If they get rid of that, this will definitely cause problems. People are eligible until their yearly salary rises above $53,000 for a family of 4.

Sanders proposes a 7% employer payroll tax.

"Sanders would impose another 7 percent payroll tax which on employees which he calls an “income-based premium paid by employers.”
https://www.atr.org/list-tax-hikes-sand ... l-plan?amp

So, workers making $29,000 or less would have an indirect 7% tax.

Workers making over $29,000 would have a 4% direct tax and 7% indirect tax.

However, he throws out a lot of ideas, and this is just one of them.

Right, the $29,000 is laughable.

It's possible to make $100,000 NOW, and still get free health care, if you have enough deductions.

It's true that 29,000 Pounds per Annum is not a bad salary in the UK----but people in the UK are usually more heavily subsidized than people in the US.

It is harder, probably (in general) for people living in the UK than it is for people living in the US.

Speaking in generalities, like Trump?

Sanders is the real enemy to many Democrats.

Powerhouse Nevada Union Won’t Endorse a Democratic Candidate
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ar-BBZYvsJ

"The union has criticized Bernie Sanders’ Medicare for All proposal, which it has warned would replace the health care benefits the labor group has negotiated over the years"

For a subset of people who typically take things very literally I'm surprised at how many people here use the word "free" and then go on about all the people who will have to pay for those "free" things.

If it has to be paid for, it isn't free.

And then you go on and criticize other's semantics.
It's a very strange world that I experience...