Pro-conscription should be banned

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No ... they need just a doctor to say they have a bone spur to avoid the draft.

I stand corrected.

I believe that every able-bodied American citizen of sound mind should be required to undergo two years' military training, starting at age 18 (17 if a drop-out), and then serve a minimum of 6 years in the "Ready Reserve Forces".

So what about those who suffer from chronical psychiatric illnesses?
What if they can't do as they're told because of their illness, disability etc.?

Should they suffer imprisonment for draft dodging?

Then why are you so committed to democide against people who disagree with you?

I could equally argue thus:

"When citizens enjoy the rights, privileges, security and prosperity of their nation state, the State has a reciprocal moral right to call upon the citizens to defend those goods, by violence if necessary. Those who would deny the State this right are at best traitors. At worse, they violate the very social contract that unites us, and that divides Man from those brute beasts that strive each against all, with no solidarity, no compassion, no concern for the common good.

"These 'Anti-Conscriptionists' have in a real sense forfeited their humanity. We need show no mercy in dealing with their contagion."

...or summat like that, like. In real life, I'm a fuzzy centre-lefter who is generally against conscription. The above piece of swivel-eyed right-wing-authoritarian wingnuttery only crosses the line in the last two sentences which, coming from an authority figure, could be construed as incitement to murder. Up to that point, it's extreme, but you can no more criminalise it than you can the OP's first two sentences.*

I enjoyed the derailment via Romantic poetry, btw.

*in their edited form.

What part of "every able-bodied American citizen of sound mind" confused you? Also, you have no leg to stand on with regards to cruelty.

In addition permittance of conscientious objection is a thing that occurs: last time conscription was in force in my country pacifists were allowed to do alternative service in the healthcare system.

Personal attack noted.What part of "sound mind" is difficult for you to understand?What part of "able-bodied" is difficult for you to understand?Deferments for genuine health reasons should be allowed.  Deliberately faking an illness or disability to avoid service (e.g., "dodging the draft") should be punishable by imprisonment.  In addition, serving 2 to 4 years of active duty should allow for the same amount of government-paid education in a STEM field, while "dodging the draft" to avoid military service should disallow this benefit.I like this idea, too.  2 to 4 years of "Conscientious Alternate Service" should count the same way toward tuition that actual service would.

Most European nations have mandatory military service, now mind you that’s not all people serve due to there not being enough room or funds. But if you get picked then you can’t say no.
Germany findland. Denmark I guess, most Eastern European nations. Switzerland I think has every man server 2 years then sends them home with the rifle. But they don’t have a standing army. I had a friend who played online game with and he was like sorry guys I’ve been called up and have to go. He got sent to be trained to be a sniper in Finland. Though unlike here their boot camp allows internet so we got to talk to him except when he was in field training. He even sent some pictures. He wasn’t sniper but the spotter.

How the f**k is that a personal attack?

A better question would be why have you been allowed to bully members on this board for so long without your ass being chucked into the abyss.

P.S. For the record, I am not in agreement with the OP's opinion.

That should be obvious to you and to anyone else.Personal attack noted.

Please explain to me how expressing an opinion is a personal attack. Is someone told me I was "cruel" for my comments, I'd probably piss myself laughing. I certainly wouldn't be a big wuss and report it.

Personal attack noted and reported.

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