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15 Jun 2020, 6:53 pm

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So they endanger *MY* life?
So, you can see how your argument fails inspection. :wink:


And you endanger their lives by telling them to stop.
Nothing changes and there will be more violence and discrimination by cops and the system.

In a pandemic with exponential growth, there will be a way more old people(and people with preexisting conditions) killed by the #BoomerRemover then POC killed by cops. And by the way COVID-19 is killing a lot more POC then white people. The spikes in states that have reopened are concerning but there is potentially very good news in this regard.
Early test results show only a few Minnesota protesters got coronavirus
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Only 1.4 percent of George Floyd protesters in Minnesota have tested positive for coronavirus since participating in the demonstrations, according to a new report.

The early data comes from about 1,300 tests completed from around 3,300 protesters who visited one of the four testing sites last week in St. Paul and Minneapolis, the Pioneer Press reported.

Health officials said it’s too early to say whether the virus spread at the demonstrations or if people were already sick.

But the rate is significantly lower than 3.7 percent — the seven-day average of positive tests across the state, the report said.

Minnesota officials have encouraged anyone who has attended the protests or other related events to get tested, regardless of whether they present symptoms, Michigan Public Radio reported.

“If you were involved in any of the mass gatherings — the protests, the vigils, the neighborhood cleanups, providing food, water, etc. — we really encourage you to get free testing at one of these community sites,” state Health Commissioner Jan Malcolm said.

Also despite rioting and daily massive demonstrations New York is at its lowest point since they have been keeping records. And the protests have been going on for two weeks. Either the combination of mask wearing and protests do not spread the virus, or it is spreading but since the protesters are mostly young and healthy they have little or no symptoms and will spread it to older folks. If cases do not go up in another two weeks among protesters and their relatives I would highly suspect protesting is not an activity that spreads coronavirus much.


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15 Jun 2020, 9:06 pm

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Also despite rioting and daily massive demonstrations New York is at its lowest point since they have been keeping records. And the protests have been going on for two weeks. Either the combination of mask wearing and protests do not spread the virus, or it is spreading but since the protesters are mostly young and healthy they have little or no symptoms and will spread it to older folks. If cases do not go up in another two weeks among protesters and their relatives I would highly suspect protesting is not an activity that spreads coronavirus much.



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16 Jun 2020, 5:48 am

Pepe wrote:
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People choosing to risk their lives,
And other people's lives, by bringing back the disease, is a concern.
Not to mention, the economic havoc.
Good grief, I just did. D'oh! :mrgreen:

Remember,
It was left-wing individuals who overwhelmingly favoured saving lives through being locked down.
XFG even mentioned he didn't want to bring the disease back to his mother, as an example.
Isn't it a little hypocritical, for left-leaning individuals, to now flout social distancing protocols?
Pretty B&W hypocrisy, in my book. :wink:


Maybe the left-wing individual think that even more people are going to die if they disperse and stop protests?

So they endanger *MY* life?
So, you can see how your argument fails inspection. :wink:

Not only yours. Black people and other minorities are at greater risk from the virus. They're endangering black lives.


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16 Jun 2020, 7:58 am

Bradleigh wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Bradleigh wrote:
Pepe wrote:
So they endanger *MY* life?
So, you can see how your argument fails inspection. :wink:


And you endanger their lives by telling them to stop.


Ummm. 8O


What is so shocking about that?


Lost for words, more than shocked.
Don't ask me why. :mrgreen:



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16 Jun 2020, 7:59 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Bradleigh wrote:
Pepe wrote:
People choosing to risk their lives,
And other people's lives, by bringing back the disease, is a concern.
Not to mention, the economic havoc.
Good grief, I just did. D'oh! :mrgreen:

Remember,
It was left-wing individuals who overwhelmingly favoured saving lives through being locked down.
XFG even mentioned he didn't want to bring the disease back to his mother, as an example.
Isn't it a little hypocritical, for left-leaning individuals, to now flout social distancing protocols?
Pretty B&W hypocrisy, in my book. :wink:


Maybe the left-wing individual think that even more people are going to die if they disperse and stop protests?

So they endanger *MY* life?
So, you can see how your argument fails inspection. :wink:

Not only yours. Black people and other minorities are at greater risk from the virus. They're endangering black lives.


Apparently, black lives don't matter to the protesters. 8O



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16 Jun 2020, 8:33 am

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Apparently, black lives don't matter to the protesters. 8O


Or, again, they that much see a threat from not being shot by goddamn cops.

I really don't think you are aware of things like a mother looking at her 5 year old son, and knowing that as an alternative of not changing something she will have to tell him that he must become ready to respond to a frantic man in uniform who is almost incoherent, could give conflicting instructions and if they give into an extinct to flinch and run they will be shot. And even that might not be good enough and if they do everything right they will still be shot.

The amount of white privilege you continue to display by saying that you should be allowed to tell them how they should protest and whether their lives matter to them. But you just continue to make a joke about it, all a funny joke with your emoticons as you shame them for being illogical, like you get to be an arbiter over how many more deaths from police brutality is worth more strongly controlling a pandemic that affects them more because they are more likely to be poor because of systematic racism which is the exact sort of thing they are protesting.


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16 Jun 2020, 10:59 am

Bradleigh wrote:
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Apparently, black lives don't matter to the protesters. 8O


Or, again, they that much see a threat from not being shot by goddamn cops.



Do you have this problem in Australia ? We don't in the UK. The police force are far from perfect but we are miles apart from US policing. Media outlets not so much.

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16 Jun 2020, 12:45 pm

TuskenR wrote:
Bradleigh wrote:
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Apparently, black lives don't matter to the protesters. 8O


Or, again, they that much see a threat from not being shot by goddamn cops.



Do you have this problem in Australia ? We don't in the UK. The police force are far from perfect but we are miles apart from US policing. Media outlets not so much.

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Ironic, the only people claiming antifascists are fascists are actual fascists like the guys who cosplayed as Nazis in Charlottesville. :lol:


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16 Jun 2020, 1:03 pm

^ you couldn't make this up

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16 Jun 2020, 2:14 pm

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I missed the second 'anti' in the image until now.

We're not actually at odds. :mrgreen:


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16 Jun 2020, 5:34 pm

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Do you have this problem in Australia ? We don't in the UK. The police force are far from perfect but we are miles apart from US policing. Media outlets not so much.


I can only talk about my own experiences, but I do think that we have it better here, that the police are less jumpy in thinking anyone could have a gun, so they would have to quickly react to a threat of one pulled out. But that is just my experience, I can't say what it is like for racial minorities, often other than my mum saying that people of certain races should respect the police or nebulously go back to where they came from. And I am aware that some aboriginal people have made some likely good points about things like dying in police custody, some more brutality by the police to them, and I know that they have a lot of poverty. I would rather listen to their experiences than assume there is no problem because we are not America.


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22 Jun 2020, 10:15 am

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Ironic, the only people claiming antifascists are fascists are actual fascists like the guys who cosplayed as Nazis in Charlottesville. :lol:

That's not ironic. They do it on purpose.


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