Antifa vs Capitol Hill

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They were Trump supporters within the whole protest.

At least a majority of the people who got into the Capitol were obvious Trump supporters.

Trump, himself, egged on this crowd.

I don't watch news so I am not sure what you are referring to. Are you saying they clsinec antifa we're responsible for capitol Hill event? How can they say that if antifa is on the left and Trump supporters are on the right.

Also I don't see media being right wing. If anything, a media criticizes Trump wuote often.

We are talking about two different things. I were referring to the protests in regards to Floyd in the summer. The proud boys were in the fall.

So the protests that were in the summer certainly weren't peaceful. Lots of property was destroyed.



Not with the antifa.



Now you are referring to their ideology, not actual protests.

And whether you view their ideology as racist depends on your own ideology so it's not objective



But conservatives WERE upset with Capitol Hill protests.

And liberals weren't upset with Floyd protests.



How is the media right wing if it is very often anti Trump.

Also how is it racist? I can't imagine how it is even possible in the way the media works in the US.



How is it possible to blame antifa if antifa is on the left and Trump is on the right.

Oh, good grief ... where to begin ... "The Media" is all over the map, from the hard-core Left (Alternet) to the hard-core Right (Newsmax) and everything in-between.  Segments of the Right-wing Media are citing alleged members of the bogus "Antifa" as being the only people to invade, loot, and vandalize the Capital building when it is obvious that Mr. Trump and his followers are wholly and solely responsible.

You really should pay more attention to the news -- all of it, not just the news that appeals to you.

Didn't you read? I said in my other post that things were peaceful until the police started to attack them when they were just standing there not even doing anything. So they fought back. They were made out to be in the media that they were just violent and the police were just being violent back. No, the police started it and it was the protesters fighting back because they were being attacked.





Not all Republicans are Trump lovers dude. BTW did you see that the republican's are now separating themselves from trump Lovers? They want no part of it. Look at what happened with Germany? They created the term Nazi Germany because they want no part of it. Trump Lovers can have their own separate party and label. If anyone wants to see it as me calling Republicans and Conservatives Trump lovers, not my problem.

Trump lovers will not bat an eye.




Because Trump lovers are not going to say they are violent and see pot kettle black. They are not going to be calling the right wing violent as well. They can be violent and it won't be used against them. Instead it will always be "oh the democrats are so violent."




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Back to read the top of my post again:

things were peaceful until the police started to attack them when they were just standing there not even doing anything. So they fought back. They were made out to be in the media that they were just violent and the police were just being violent back. No, the police started it and it was the protesters fighting back because they were being attacked.


There is a big difference. If someone attacked you, I am sure you would fight back so of course you would be justified. No one attacked these Trump lovers. They decided to head over there themselves and do violence all because Trump lost and because they think the election was rigged and it's been proven there were no voter frauds. Also the riots and the looting you saw in BLM protests were just white supremist and those outside the area just came to town to make trouble as I said in my other post. I never sympathized with that. If you still don't get it, you are either dense or just choose to not get it.

I think it's time we stop making Trump lovers a protected class.

QFT, I see you did respond to my second post.

Some people are saying this was all planned and that Trump planned this. That was because he was making threats and saying things like how something bad will happen. I don't remember his exact words. Then this happened so I am not surprised that some people believe this was planned. Plus his Tweets so people read them as he was telling them to do this.

I thought it was just Trump Lovers that decided to get together and storm the capital and break in. This is also being compared to War of 1812.

I am not saying I believe this is all planned. So far, it's just been opinions.

Summarizing what I said in the other thread. The extreme ends of the Antifa and BLM protests were more violent then the MAGA insurrection. As far as which was worse there is no real comparison. The MAGA insurrectionists attempt to overturn represented the most serious attempt to overthrow our system since the civil war and the insurrectionists should have treated accordingly.

What I meant is why haven't any white supremacists and other trouble makers gone to the white house and do destruction. Makes me think there is some agenda and they would rather use left wing protests to make people turn against them so they will think they are all violent and can't do it peacefully. Then people will defend them saying they were justified because of oppression for so long. I am not saying it's not possible that someone from the left can decide to storm the capital and do some destruction to try and make Trump Lovers look all like violent as well so people will turn against them and decide the right is no better than the left and both sides are crazy.

Now I am hearing some destruction is going on like feces got smeared inside the capital.

My opinion it was planned. That January 6 is the day they certify the election was known well in advanced and was talked about.The dark web was full of talk about storming the capital. The tweets of the women that was killed said we are storming the capital. You do not bring explosive devices to something you did not plan. The dark web was also talking about hanging politicians so that probably also would have probably happened if the politicians were not evacuated on time.

I feel like it is pretty obvious that it was "planned."

It's even more obvious when one reads the social media posts of some of the insurrectionists.

Five people died in the MAGA insurrection.

This is just speculation on my part, but maybe he has finally realized that anyone who tries to defend Donald Trump has already lost the argument, and in a way that closely resembles Godwin's Law.

Precisely.

Nobody shows up with zip ties ready to go unless they are ready to take prisoners/hostages.

Another picture:



And another:



Some of the attackers reportedly said that they intended to hang Vice President Pence for treason.

What was the goal of the people who tried to storm the capital building, or what did they hope to get out of it. Since explosive devices were found, did they just want to plant bombs and blow the building up?