Are there any post coup attempt EX-trump supporters here?
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League_Girl wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I waste time on all kinds of useless crap but I can’t imagine searching the forum to dig up trump support posts. We remember who those people were.
I can probably name 5 of them. All but two were banned. I think one of their bans got uplifted. They were on a 6 month time out.
Aaah, yes, that one. He’s probably still seething mad assuming I had anything to do with his ban and still not realizing that it was his posts and long term attitude that resulted in his ban. Like I disclosed then: I never even reported a single one of his posts, ever.
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goldfish21 wrote:
trump kinda takes all the fun out of it by being too easy to make fun of. 
Q: What is the fastest way to get Trump to change a light bulb?
A: Tell him Obama installed it.
Last night there was an accident and Trump's personal library burnt down. This is a huge catastrophe because BOTH of his books were lost, and he had only colored in one of them so far.
Q: Why is Trump unable to be hanged for treason?
A: Fake noose.
Q: What condition does Trump take his anti-anxiety medication for?
A: Hispanic attacks.
Q: How do you make Donald Trump's eyes light up?
A: Shine a flashlight into his ear.
goldfish21 wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I waste time on all kinds of useless crap but I can’t imagine searching the forum to dig up trump support posts. We remember who those people were.
I can probably name 5 of them. All but two were banned. I think one of their bans got uplifted. They were on a 6 month time out.
Aaah, yes, that one. He’s probably still seething mad assuming I had anything to do with his ban and still not realizing that it was his posts and long term attitude that resulted in his ban. Like I disclosed then: I never even reported a single one of his posts, ever.
Neither have I. I could tell he was trolling and trying to make anti Trumpets mad. Then went to another board and said he was bullied here. I suspect he is back under a different username.
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Fnord wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
trump kinda takes all the fun out of it by being too easy to make fun of. 
Q: What is the fastest way to get Trump to change a light bulb?
A: Tell him Obama installed it.
Last night there was an accident and Trump's personal library burnt down. This is a huge catastrophe because BOTH of his books were lost, and he had only colored in one of them so far.
Q: Why is Trump unable to be hanged for treason?
A: Fake noose.
Q: What condition does Trump take his anti-anxiety medication for?
A: Hispanic attacks.
Q: How do you make Donald Trump's eyes light up?
A: Shine a flashlight into his ear.
Not bad.
You could retread that old saw about Bill Clinton: "how do tell when he is lying?" Answer:"his lips are moving".
Trouble is this: with other presidents who were notorious for being honesty impaired of either party (Nixon, Clinton, etc) it was an exaggeration. With Trump it's close to being literally true. Too true to be funny. Trump really DID lie, or say highly misleading things, just every time he spoke publicly in the last five years.
Found this gem
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-supporte ... nt-1445244
Quote:
Awell-known Trump supporter turned Elizabeth Warren backer on Friday admitted that he was "really an idiot" to think that Donald Trump would be a good president.
"When I supported Trump like most Trump supporters we called it fake news," David Weissman, an Army veteran with more than 80,000 Twitter followers, tweeted. "I was really an idiot to think he would be a good president."
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Weissman, who describes himself in his Twitter profile as a "former Conservative Republican Trump supporter now Liberal Democrat & Warren supporter. Yes it's possible," was replying to criticism of Trump by Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway's husband George Conway.
"Trump didn't realize UNTIL TEN MINUTES BEFOREHAND that a planned airstrike would kill over a hundred people and would therefore be grossly disproportionate to the loss of a UAV?" tweeted George Conway, a lawyer. "To say this is amateur hour would defame amateurs."
Conway was responding to Trump tweeting Friday that he had called off military strikes against Iran at the last moment when finding out that 150 Iranians would be killed. In an interview with NBC, Trump later said that he had never given his full approval for the military action.
Weissman replied that Trump "is not mentally fit to be President," an argument that George Conway has long made despite being the husband of a top Trump administration official.
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A Twitter user dedicated to educating people about narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders added to the conversation that mental health care professionals have shared similar opinions of Trump for the last three-and-a-half years.
George Conway replied to Weissman: "For my part, I didn't realize how incompetent—and ill—he was. I couldn't have dreamed he was this bad. He's actually worse than many of his critics said he would be."
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Weissman said it had been a "long hard journey" when responding to Twitter users who praised his changed opinion of the president.
A mother of a son with autism and neuromuscular disease commented that Trump mocked a man with similar disabilities and that she would never understand how any thinking, felling person could vote for Trump.
"I'm truly sorry for justifying his bad behaviors at the time," Weissman replied.
Trump Supporter idiot MAGA sign
A "Make America Great Again" sign sits on the floor following a campaign rally with President Donald Trump at Central Wisconsin Airport in Mosinee, Wisconsin, October 24, 2018. Former Trump supporter David Weissman admitted he was "really an idiot" to have backed Trump for president.
SAUL LOEB/AFP/GETTY IMAGES
In a February 2018 blog titled "Why I left team MAGA" in The Times of Israel, Weissman wrote that he began to believe Trump's "Make America Great Again" team was going overboard in treating all media networks besides Fox News and Breitbart as fake news. Weissman wrote he attacked comedian Sarah Silverman who had different political views, but that she responded with kindness and that she became his "liberal mentor, of sorts," in understanding the left.
Weissman on Friday acknowledged that Silverman "really is" honest and down to Earth.
"When I supported Trump like most Trump supporters we called it fake news," David Weissman, an Army veteran with more than 80,000 Twitter followers, tweeted. "I was really an idiot to think he would be a good president."
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Weissman, who describes himself in his Twitter profile as a "former Conservative Republican Trump supporter now Liberal Democrat & Warren supporter. Yes it's possible," was replying to criticism of Trump by Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway's husband George Conway.
"Trump didn't realize UNTIL TEN MINUTES BEFOREHAND that a planned airstrike would kill over a hundred people and would therefore be grossly disproportionate to the loss of a UAV?" tweeted George Conway, a lawyer. "To say this is amateur hour would defame amateurs."
Conway was responding to Trump tweeting Friday that he had called off military strikes against Iran at the last moment when finding out that 150 Iranians would be killed. In an interview with NBC, Trump later said that he had never given his full approval for the military action.
Weissman replied that Trump "is not mentally fit to be President," an argument that George Conway has long made despite being the husband of a top Trump administration official.
NEWSWEEK SUBSCRIPTION OFFERS >
A Twitter user dedicated to educating people about narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders added to the conversation that mental health care professionals have shared similar opinions of Trump for the last three-and-a-half years.
George Conway replied to Weissman: "For my part, I didn't realize how incompetent—and ill—he was. I couldn't have dreamed he was this bad. He's actually worse than many of his critics said he would be."
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Weissman said it had been a "long hard journey" when responding to Twitter users who praised his changed opinion of the president.
A mother of a son with autism and neuromuscular disease commented that Trump mocked a man with similar disabilities and that she would never understand how any thinking, felling person could vote for Trump.
"I'm truly sorry for justifying his bad behaviors at the time," Weissman replied.
Trump Supporter idiot MAGA sign
A "Make America Great Again" sign sits on the floor following a campaign rally with President Donald Trump at Central Wisconsin Airport in Mosinee, Wisconsin, October 24, 2018. Former Trump supporter David Weissman admitted he was "really an idiot" to have backed Trump for president.
SAUL LOEB/AFP/GETTY IMAGES
In a February 2018 blog titled "Why I left team MAGA" in The Times of Israel, Weissman wrote that he began to believe Trump's "Make America Great Again" team was going overboard in treating all media networks besides Fox News and Breitbart as fake news. Weissman wrote he attacked comedian Sarah Silverman who had different political views, but that she responded with kindness and that she became his "liberal mentor, of sorts," in understanding the left.
Weissman on Friday acknowledged that Silverman "really is" honest and down to Earth.
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ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
Blah blah blah this coup isn’t a real coup because it doesn’t have organized military personnel.
And now that a few more hours have gone by and it’s in the news cycle that active duty military members were involved in planning it & transporting hundreds of rioters to DC? And also that republican lawmakers have reconnaissance tours of the Capitol the day before? And the panic buttons from the security system were ripped out so they couldn’t be used?
Starting to get the picture yet?



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ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
I don't support what happened at the Capitol. HOWEVER, as you yourself pointed out, those people were morons. There's no way in hell their disruption would or could ever literally stop the federal government from proceeding or functioning indefinitely, nor lead to an overthrow of American government entirely.
Had they managed to get into the House or Senate chambers before the representatives and senators escaped, they indeed could have stopped the constitutionally mandated process of counting the votes.
That they didn't succeed is due largely to the heroism of one black cop, Eugene Goodman.
ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
Never in a million years. So, it's silly to pretend it actually could. It accomplished nothing, nor could it ever have.
Had the constitutionally mandated process of counting the votes been stopped, this could have led to a significant constitutional crisis, to say the least.
ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
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It's about the PROCESS, not the candidates. Traditionally, if you're legally eligible to vote, you register and show up at ONE designated location on ONE day between a certain time frame. A small minority may REQUEST absentee ballots. This year, millions of unsolicited ballots were sent out en masse by 50+ little fiefdoms with their own off-the-cuff, newly-invented procedures for wide-scale mail-in voting.
It's about the PROCESS, not the candidates. Traditionally, if you're legally eligible to vote, you register and show up at ONE designated location on ONE day between a certain time frame. A small minority may REQUEST absentee ballots. This year, millions of unsolicited ballots were sent out en masse by 50+ little fiefdoms with their own off-the-cuff, newly-invented procedures for wide-scale mail-in voting.
No, "unsolicited ballots" were not sent out en masse, just applications for absentee ballots.
ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
In the USA, 50 states (+the District of Columbia and various territories) all came up with their disjointed approaches at voting, not for internal matters, but for voting on a national scale. There was no NATIONAL standard.
Indeed there never was a national standard, because the U.S. Constitution leaves it up to state legislatures to decide voting procedures (beyond possible federal enforcement of non-discrimination as per the 14th Amendment).
The Trumpist constitutional argument was NOT that there was no federal standard, but that some of the COVID-related emergency decisions about voting procedures were being made by state governors and election administrators, not by state legislatures. However, the state legislatures did not countermand these emergency decisions, even though most of them were Republican-dominated and under pressure from Trump to countermand them.
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Mr Reynholm wrote:
Its a completely false narrative. Nowhere in his speech or at any other time did Trump incite a riot or call for violence. Show the video if it exists not some newsman's opinion piece.
Apparently you didn’t watch the same speech as the Attorney General of Washington DC who has gone on record to say that he is charging trump with inciting violence.
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Mr Reynholm wrote:
Its a completely false narrative. Nowhere in his speech or at any other time did Trump incite a riot or call for violence. Show the video if it exists not some newsman's opinion piece.
Rioting in a national capitol is riot, not a narrative. Your picture of real events may be false because you got the news from a cell phone & not a security camera.
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goldfish21 wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
Its a completely false narrative. Nowhere in his speech or at any other time did Trump incite a riot or call for violence. Show the video if it exists not some newsman's opinion piece.
Apparently you didn’t watch the same speech as the Attorney General of Washington DC who has gone on record to say that he is charging trump with inciting violence.
You can't answer Mr Reynholm's challenge, and I doubt anyone else can either.
He asked people to "show the video if it exists not some newsman's opinion piece" and your response is "but this other guy said he did". LOL.
League_Girl wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I waste time on all kinds of useless crap but I can’t imagine searching the forum to dig up trump support posts. We remember who those people were.
I can probably name 5 of them. All but two were banned. I think one of their bans got uplifted. They were on a 6 month time out.
Aaah, yes, that one. He’s probably still seething mad assuming I had anything to do with his ban and still not realizing that it was his posts and long term attitude that resulted in his ban. Like I disclosed then: I never even reported a single one of his posts, ever.
Neither have I. I could tell he was trolling and trying to make anti Trumpets mad. Then went to another board and said he was bullied here. I suspect he is back under a different username.
Ezra isn’t banned at present (unless that has changed without me noticing) so doesn’t fall under the prohibition of discussing banned users. Please remember that “former” users may still read the forum and you should remain considerate of their feelings - no personal attacks etc.
slam_thunderhide wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
Its a completely false narrative. Nowhere in his speech or at any other time did Trump incite a riot or call for violence. Show the video if it exists not some newsman's opinion piece.
Apparently you didn’t watch the same speech as the Attorney General of Washington DC who has gone on record to say that he is charging trump with inciting violence.
You can't answer Mr Reynholm's challenge, and I doubt anyone else can either.
He asked people to "show the video if it exists not some newsman's opinion piece" and your response is "but this other guy said he did". LOL.
Exactly. There is nothing to go on except the fact that the Democrats in congress (and at least 10 Republicans) hate Trump and want any pretext to Impeach him. There is no video of him inciting anyone to riot.
cberg wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
Its a completely false narrative. Nowhere in his speech or at any other time did Trump incite a riot or call for violence. Show the video if it exists not some newsman's opinion piece.
Rioting in a national capitol is riot, not a narrative. Your picture of real events may be false because you got the news from a cell phone & not a security camera.
I look a facts. Fact is there is no audio/video of Trump inciting anyone to riot. Vivid imaginations maybe, but no facts.
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