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It’s Idaho, not surprised.

I am not convinced.
"Nazis" were fascists during the Nazis Germany period.
The new fascists are new neo Nazis.

You know, I've long thought that calling these kinds of people "Nazis" was giving them entirely too much credit, as Nazi Germany was a technological and military powerhouse that punched far above its weight, and these people... are not. I do also wonder how many people flying the swastika actually believe in what it stood for, or are more trying to be edgy, like college kids with Che Guevara shirts who presumably don't support his more authoritarian tendencies (but man he looked cool...).

In the beginning, only recruits who had high social standards, physical condition and had no criminal records, were accepted into the Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler.
Ironic huh?

My point is, these neo-Nazis would have been put in the reject pile.

And, yes, there is still a lot of fascination for dangerous ideology and imagery.
This is a simple fact of human psychology.

For example, most people wouldn't know that the death's head icon was not invented by the original Nazis.
It was in evidence pre-Nazi Germany.

You know, I've long thought that calling these kinds of people "Nazis" was giving them entirely too much credit, as Nazi Germany was a technological and military powerhouse that punched far above its weight, and these people... are not. I do also wonder how many people flying the swastika actually believe in what it stood for, or are more trying to be edgy, like college kids with Che Guevara shirts who presumably don't support his more authoritarian tendencies (but man he looked cool...).

On an intellectual level, though, these cretins today would have fit in. When Heidegger joined the Nazis (worst mistake of his life, he confided in Hannah Ardent), they ridiculed him for his philosophizing and intellectuality. After the war, the allies were amazed to find how many of the Hitler Youth were illiterate, considering that Germany had had such a long intellectual tradition. Any and all education was focused on glorifying and supporting the state and the Nazi philosophy.

I don't find that surprising given the Nazi fixation on physical form, which our homegrown variety invariably are deficient in. Of course, there's another layer there given the decidedly unimpressive collective physique of the Nazi leadership, people were joking about it during the time period:



The caption translates as: The Aryan type. A blond man like Hitler, slim like Göring, tall like Goebells.

You know, I've long thought that calling these kinds of people "Nazis" was giving them entirely too much credit, as Nazi Germany was a technological and military powerhouse that punched far above its weight, and these people... are not. I do also wonder how many people flying the swastika actually believe in what it stood for, or are more trying to be edgy, like college kids with Che Guevara shirts who presumably don't support his more authoritarian tendencies (but man he looked cool...).

They could be invoking santa claus or the boogeyman, the fact is they are well-armed (thanks to your government's lax gun laws) and their intended targets for terror are civilians.

I'm afraid the families of the victims of Timothy McVeigh and James Fields already know what these 4th reich wannabes are capable off.

Neither of those men used firearms in their crimes, and McVeigh wasn't a Nazi...

He may as well have been. He was programmed by the Turner diaries which is a neo-Nazi manifesto for the white race to eliminate all PoCs. He thought his act of terror would start a race war.

The indepth letters Timothy McVeigh invited the Observer to look at were sent to the safekeeping of his friend Bob Papovich who had up until now been told that the correspondence was to be kept 'off-the-record'.

But in a letter to Papovich written from death row on May 3, 2001. McVeigh told Papovich that these documents he had sent him contained 'the final piece missing from the "why" equation.'

In a letter to Observer journalist Tracy McVeigh, the convicted Oklahoma City bomber gave Papovich's phone number and pleaded: 'Ask him specifically for my 3-page letter "why I bombed the Murrah building'.

The following is that letter which shows the build-up of anger that McVeigh had against a US federal government 'run amok' against its citizens and the politics that led to his bombing of the Alfred P Murrah building in Oklahoma City on April 19 1995 - the second anniversary of Waco.

What McVeigh wrote:

'I explain herein why I bombed the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City. I explain this not for publicity, nor seeking to win an argument of right or wrong. I explain so that the record is clear as to my thinking and motivations in bombing a government installation.

"I chose to bomb a federal building because such an action served more purposes than other options. Foremost the bombing was a retaliatory strike; a counter attack for the cumulative raids (and subsequent violence and damage) that federal agents had participated in over the preceding years (including, but not limited to, Waco). From the formation of such units as the FBI's Hostage Rescue and other assault teams amongst federal agencies during the 80s, culminating in the Waco incident, federal actions grew increasingly militaristic and violent, to the point where at Waco, our government - like the Chinese - was deploying tanks against its own citizens.

Knowledge of these multiple and ever-more aggressive raids across the country constituted an identifiable pattern of conduct within and by the federal government and amongst its various agencies.

'For all intents and purposes, federal agents had become soldiers (using military training, tactics, techniques, equipment, language, dress, organisation and mindset) and they were escalating their behaviour.

Therefore this bombing was meant as a pre-emptive (or pro-active) strike against these forces and their command and control centres within the federal building. When an aggressor force continually launches attacks from a particular base of operations, it is sound military strategy to take the fight to the enemy. Additionally, borrowing a page from US foreign policy, I decided to send a message to a government that was becoming increasingly hostile, by bombing a government building and the government employees within that building who represent that government. Bombing the Murrah federal building was morally and strategically equivalent to the US hitting a government building in Serbia, Iraq, or other nations.

Based on observations of the policies of my own government, I viewed this action as an acceptable option.

Here's his wiki, were it is noted that while he did read and sell The Turner Diaries, he wasn't a member of any extremist group, and there is nothing remotely racially motivated about his crime:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

Here's a pro tip for free: If you're going to make up "facts", make them up about something obscure and impossible to check, not an incredibly well documented crime where the killer confessed at length and wrote voluminously of his motive, it makes it really obvious you don't know what you're talking about.

Splitting hairs to avoid the fact the Turner diary is a bible for most Neo-Nazis
https://www.vox.com/22232779/the-turner ... her-pierce

McVeigh and his partner in terror were lone wolves, but I agree that hardly makes them any less indoctrinated in Neo-Nazism. I recall how people who knew him talked about his racism.