Entitled millennials?

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Almost like their incomes don't provide extra money after food, shelter and transportation are covered.

And they'll unionize and remove your ability to fire people.

Mine? Why is this edited to say (e.g., mine) ? ^

I'm not a Millennial. You're not a Millennial.

I didn't blame anyone or any generation for the economic problems Millennials are facing.

*&^%$#@-ing copy-and-paste function.

Corrected.

Ahhh, OK. I hate that too.

My millennials and their friends are all doing really well -- high achievers, graduate programs, doctoral studies, volunteering in their communities, working for everything they have. None of them commit crime or lounge around milking the system as you describe. Regardless I don't believe they'll ever have the opportunities that previous generations had. I don't understand economics and I'm not blaming anyone. I worked hard. You worked hard. Our parents and grandparents worked hard too.

I still believe Millennials are systemically disadvantaged. They face an unnecessary, uphill climb just to break even.

Good for them!  We are ALL faced with a long, uphill battle against seemingly insurmountable odds.  Then we die.

That's life!

Yes. I've always felt sorry for all the ordinary people who are younger than I am. I'd always resented the downward pressure on me during my working life, but when I was about to retire I noticed they were doing yet another wave of attacks on working conditions, rewriting people's contracts to load more responsibility onto them and generally get them further under the thumb. It was a great relief to me that I was old enough to escape it.

My admiration goes more to those who fight back against the thieving than it does to those who accept it and just work extra hard. We were lucky enough to have one or two employees on the pension scheme oversight group who noticed that the insurance company it had been sold to was conveniently overlooking a little-known rule that allowed people with a certain number of years of service to claim their pensions a couple of years early. They managed to get a review of the way it was being run and the company ended up having to honour the rule. I'd have been cheated out of thousands if they hadn't fixed that, and I'd never have known a thing about it.

If their union is anything like the union on my campus, nothing will get done except make the workers poorer. I have been asked multiple times to join the union there. Do you know what the dues are? $300+/month. That amounts to $3600+/year out of my paycheck after taxes if you do the math. No thanks.

What do you get for that? You get to attend a meeting every few months to express you feelings, but nothing ever gets done about any real issues. If anyone in our department is a member (there is one already), the legal benefits get extended automatically to the non-members per law. I can get the same coverage from a national organization for $200/year if I so desire. Why join a union and pay for nothing in return? It is just a big money grab by someone else in the union. I do not see a point to them if that is all they do.

The university can fire anyone at anytime for any reason. Tenure there only gives those that have it a chance at an appeal.

Yes that's a very poor deal. In the UK my union subs were just a few pounds a month. They didn't support me very strongly when I needed their help, but at least the procedural agreements (which I presume they'd negotiated for us a long time ago) were there - we couldn't be fired on a whim, the management would have to go through a series of steps, starting with an informal verbal warning, then a written warning if it wasn't resolved, and all together they could only get rid of you if you'd flown in their faces and repeatedly ignored all those warnings.

We also have laws about fair and unfair dismissal, so they can be sued. And tenure meant tenure, a job for life by default. They were chipping away at it - when a member of permanent staff left, the post would tend to disappear with them and be replaced by a limited-term contract which they didn't have to be renewed, and Thatcher had changed the law to make it much harder to legally call a strike. But my workplace was part of a university. I gather workers in the private sector have far fewer rights (sorry, entitlements).

Relatively speaking, my job was very good. In absolute terms, here and there I still saw people getting bullied and pushed around in the most shameful ways, and the sight of what the management got away with was enough to scare me, and I could hardly wait to escape. It's such a pity - there's nothing that intrinsically has to be dystopian or Dickensian about the world of work, and yet somehow they always manage to make it suck.

Texas is a right to work state so they would be fired if the tried to unionize.

And who's going to do all the work? It's not like you're capable of doing all of the labour yourself and you might struggle to attract scabs after showing you're a petty, vindictive manager because why would anyone trust a boss like that?

What I'm bitter about is how many older people have the attitude of "You'd have a job if you just went there and asked!" When my parents were young, that was how it worked around here, but it's not the case anymore, and they have trouble understanding that. At least my aunt, who turns 70 this year if I remember correctly, gets it. She said that when she was my age, people pretty much got pulled to jobs, even the ones not highly educated. The fact that getting a job is a lot harder now would be way easier to accept if the older people around us understood that times have changed and that when it comes to this particular thing, we don't have it as easy as they did. (But for the record, I do have job now.)

Then again, we do have it easier when it comes to some things. For example, as a physically disabled person, there would've been way more jobs in my mother's youth than there are now that I could've done that have been taken over by technology, but had I been born back then I wouldn't have lived long enough to become working age, despite working age having been much lower back then. In other words, with medicine improving, we can survive from some things the previous generations couldn't.

Same



That's the attitude I have, too! Didn't have it when I graduated, but after some unemployment and non-paid internships...

It can be a bit hard to invest in things, when most of your money goes directly to living expenses. In that situation you don't really have a lot of money you can risk on investments that may or may not work out.

Also, if you are on SSI you can't invest or save up anything if you ever have over 2,000 at one time they can boot you off(you can get it back, if you go back below that, but it's a big hassle).

Every non-disabled millennial and gen zer could be a millionaire someday if they were just wise with their money.Warren Buffett agrees with me.

well I will give you that if they are on SSI.Also if would be willing to live in a used FEMA trailer part-time like I am they would have a much better shot at retiring a millionaire if they just invested in a safe index fund.

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