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I think everyone knows there's systemic entrenched bias over what "constitutes" the "best". Glass ceilings exist for a reason, to protect the interests of power brokers.

It's interesting that when an African American woman was selected based on merit, Mr Biden helped block (using the "racist" filibuster) her appointment to a high-ranking judicial position - Janice Rogers Brown.

I guess he felt the quota for African American females in the judiciary had been met...

According to the link you provided the opposition to Brown's appointment came from Barak Obama (not Biden?)

View points and record do matter in politics, and judicial appointments here ARE at least partly political. Otherwise Candace Owens could win as a Democrat. So, yeah, you know it isn't that simple.

PS - hadn't seen any of your posts for a while, so waving "hi" and hoping things are good with you.

I think they're dramatically overstated, particularly these days when people are scrambling to add some kind of minority status to their own bios as it's seen as an edge in hiring and school admissions.

I almost brought up Ms Owens as a hypothetical to illustrate the absurdity of prioritizing race and sex over professional qualifications, but held back on the assumption that some people wouldn't be able to help themselves with the "Uncle Tom" type remarks (Auntie Tomesha?), as has happened in the past.

Thank you. It's nice to know I was missed.

Since when had I said that?
Who seriously is being discriminated against by giving the post to a qualified black woman?

I know what "lower the bar" means. I'm just wondering how the bar is getting lowered by nominating a qualified black woman?

Anyone who is both more qualified and not a black woman.

"Sorry, you're the most qualified applicant, but you're Asian and male and we're only hiring black women" doesn't strike you as at all racist or sexist?

I can't figure out if you're unable to understand what I'm saying or choosing not to, as you seem to really be struggling with the difference between nominating a black woman and not considering anyone unless they are a black woman, as they're very different things.

It doesn't work like that in the real world, Most major fortune companies still recruit predominantly white males.

The way it works is through internships. Most minority candidates have parents who have taken out loans to educate their kids and can't afford the luxury of supporting a graduate on an unpaid internships. Often minority kids are pigeonholed into postgraduate studies (look at any coursework masters and it's predominantly Asian) or seek paid work.

White parents are more likely to support kids on things like gap years or unpaid internships and big companies are more likely to give internships to young white males/females from selective/ivy league universities (there is a heck of lot of networking and word of mouth that goes on).

It get's worse, white interns are 50% more desirable than non-white interns.

When you throw in the ever present "throw out resumes with the name "Jamal or Shaniqua or Wang/Chin" then being minority status isn't an advantage

What I'm arguing is: most people who say they want the most qualified person tend to use that argument when they don't want a black woman to fill the post. I tried to keep from saying it outright, but it's essentially the truth.
And no, I'm not accusing you personally of racism. But I do think you expect reality to bend to your political ideals when it comes to others choosing the best person without any possible racial or sexual discrimination.

Not intentionally they don't, at least here in the US they're spending hundreds of millions of dollars on diversity initiatives in order to hire anyone except straight white men, it's become quite the racket. It's even worse in academia, Liz Warren is far from the only person with an imaginary Native ancestor or other invented diversity qualification on their college application, there's a reason we're about to have a major court showdown over this, as the primary group being harmed by these policies is actually Asians.



Substitute "affluent" for "white" and you'd have a better point, and again, you're way out of date about who big companies are looking for, they still want the prestigious degree, but they'd much rather it come with a non-white non-male face attached to it, even better if you can work a minority sexual identity in there as well.



Cite?



I'd almost bet money that happens more in the lower end of the job market, when you get to the types of job that require expensive degrees they're not round-filing ethnic names, quite the opposite in fact. Even at the low end where that kind of discrimination is more likely to occur, it has far more to do with class and culture than it does with race, I've certainly heard it myself enough times to know.

So, 76% of America then?

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 ... court.html

1. This get's back to my point that upper management in almost all major companies are (surprise surprise) affluent white males. Their kids and the kids of their friends and kids of members of their county clubs get first pick on competitive internships. When picking other applicants there's the old "do they fit in with the culture" comes in. PoCs do get selected but there's sufficient evidence that when two applicants are equal in all areas then their race matters and the white applicant is always selected particularly if they are from a more prestigious ivy leage (which is usually the case). Asians are better represented (particular in tech companies) than blacks but again the big firms have ways of filtering out Asian nerds.

2.https://hbr.org/2021/02/research-how-co ... still-fail
I could post a picture of the whitehouse internship program in 2020, have a look, all 100% white

3 When recruiting middle and upper management in major companies the recruitment is handled by HR consultants experienced in global searches. You seem to forget the magic ingredient in being a high powered executive which is having networking + track record + being highly sought after. Minorities rarely meet all of these criteria and while they might carry paper credentials, (MBAs CPAs, and PhDs) rarely fit into the "culture" of upper management (golf clubs, country clubs) because that's where the social networking happens, Take it from me, I've seen it now for 30 years.