03 Mar 2022, 12:09 pm
03 Mar 2022, 12:10 pm
03 Mar 2022, 2:39 pm
03 Mar 2022, 7:02 pm
kraftiekortie wrote:
Iraq came close….the only difference is that they only invaded ONE country.
They used biological weapons to seek to get rid of the Kurds and a mountain ethnic group whose name escapes me at the moment.
They used biological weapons to seek to get rid of the Kurds and a mountain ethnic group whose name escapes me at the moment.
Assange Assad used poison gas in Syria after Obama drew a line in the sand against it.
Thankfully, Assad back down.
Oh, wait.
I believe the weapons of mass destruction the west was looking for was more than poison gas.
Russia is known for its nerve gas, btw.
03 Mar 2022, 7:07 pm
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Iraq came close….the only difference is that they only invaded ONE country.
They used biological weapons to seek to get rid of the Kurds and a mountain ethnic group whose name escapes me at the moment.
They used biological weapons to seek to get rid of the Kurds and a mountain ethnic group whose name escapes me at the moment.
Assange Assad used poison gas in Syria after Obama drew a line in the sand against it.
Thankfully, Assad back down.
Oh, wait.
I believe the weapons of mass destruction the west was looking for was more than poison gas.
Russia is known for its nerve gas, btw.
AFAIK that was never proven. Besides, the rationalization I heard was that he'd have to be out of his mind to think he can get away with using chemical weapons.
03 Mar 2022, 7:10 pm
slam_thunderhide wrote:
Russia has been begging the West for years to cease the expansion of NATO, explaining (justifiably) that they saw it as an act of aggression against Russia, and for years they have just been ignored.
Has anyone considered that Russia has the biggest stockpile of nuclear weapons in the world?
Who in their right mind would poke *that* bear?
I think Russia is safe from invasion, making pootin's claim rather ridiculous unless you consider a first nuclear strike on Russia.
Also, China has now made it clear that it would defend Russia if it was attacked.
Russia is safe.
Ukraine is not.
03 Mar 2022, 7:13 pm
r00tb33r wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Iraq came close….the only difference is that they only invaded ONE country.
They used biological weapons to seek to get rid of the Kurds and a mountain ethnic group whose name escapes me at the moment.
They used biological weapons to seek to get rid of the Kurds and a mountain ethnic group whose name escapes me at the moment.
Assange Assad used poison gas in Syria after Obama drew a line in the sand against it.
Thankfully, Assad back down.
Oh, wait.
I believe the weapons of mass destruction the west was looking for was more than poison gas.
Russia is known for its nerve gas, btw.
AFAIK that was never proven. Besides, the rationalization I heard was that he'd have to be out of his mind to think he can get away with using chemical weapons.
Quote:
The UN investigation team confirmed "clear and convincing evidence" of the use of sarin delivered by surface-to-surface rockets,[19][30] and a 2014 report by the UN Human Rights Council found that "significant quantities of sarin were used in a well-planned indiscriminate attack targeting civilian-inhabited areas, causing mass casualties. The evidence available concerning the nature, quality and quantity of the agents used on 21 August indicated that the perpetrators likely had access to the chemical weapons stockpile of the Syrian military, as well as the expertise and equipment necessary to safely manipulate large amount of chemical agents."[31] It also stated that the chemical agents used in the Khan al-Assal chemical attack earlier in 2013 "bore the same unique hallmarks as those used in Al-Ghouta".[32][31][33]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack
A false flag operation or a desperate means of maintaining power.
That is the $64,000 question.
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03 Mar 2022, 7:21 pm
Pepe wrote:
r00tb33r wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Iraq came close….the only difference is that they only invaded ONE country.
They used biological weapons to seek to get rid of the Kurds and a mountain ethnic group whose name escapes me at the moment.
They used biological weapons to seek to get rid of the Kurds and a mountain ethnic group whose name escapes me at the moment.
Assange Assad used poison gas in Syria after Obama drew a line in the sand against it.
Thankfully, Assad back down.
Oh, wait.
I believe the weapons of mass destruction the west was looking for was more than poison gas.
Russia is known for its nerve gas, btw.
AFAIK that was never proven. Besides, the rationalization I heard was that he'd have to be out of his mind to think he can get away with using chemical weapons.
Quote:
The UN investigation team confirmed "clear and convincing evidence" of the use of sarin delivered by surface-to-surface rockets,[19][30] and a 2014 report by the UN Human Rights Council found that "significant quantities of sarin were used in a well-planned indiscriminate attack targeting civilian-inhabited areas, causing mass casualties. The evidence available concerning the nature, quality and quantity of the agents used on 21 August indicated that the perpetrators likely had access to the chemical weapons stockpile of the Syrian military, as well as the expertise and equipment necessary to safely manipulate large amount of chemical agents."[31] It also stated that the chemical agents used in the Khan al-Assal chemical attack earlier in 2013 "bore the same unique hallmarks as those used in Al-Ghouta".[32][31][33]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack
Yes, I understand the glee of the cool smiley, but I don't see in that quote any indication that it was ever linked to an order by Assad. The place was in disorder, anyone could have smuggled it out from the stockpile.
Quote:
the perpetrators likely had access to the chemical weapons stockpile
This is literally the best they could do.
Strictly from a motive standpoint Assad had more to lose than to gain by using chemical weapons. Usage would prompt intervention by foreign parties, and that's precisely what he did not want, now, if someone say... wanted to provoke such a response...
03 Mar 2022, 7:29 pm
r00tb33r wrote:
Pepe wrote:
r00tb33r wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Iraq came close….the only difference is that they only invaded ONE country.
They used biological weapons to seek to get rid of the Kurds and a mountain ethnic group whose name escapes me at the moment.
They used biological weapons to seek to get rid of the Kurds and a mountain ethnic group whose name escapes me at the moment.
Assange Assad used poison gas in Syria after Obama drew a line in the sand against it.
Thankfully, Assad back down.
Oh, wait.
I believe the weapons of mass destruction the west was looking for was more than poison gas.
Russia is known for its nerve gas, btw.
AFAIK that was never proven. Besides, the rationalization I heard was that he'd have to be out of his mind to think he can get away with using chemical weapons.
Quote:
The UN investigation team confirmed "clear and convincing evidence" of the use of sarin delivered by surface-to-surface rockets,[19][30] and a 2014 report by the UN Human Rights Council found that "significant quantities of sarin were used in a well-planned indiscriminate attack targeting civilian-inhabited areas, causing mass casualties. The evidence available concerning the nature, quality and quantity of the agents used on 21 August indicated that the perpetrators likely had access to the chemical weapons stockpile of the Syrian military, as well as the expertise and equipment necessary to safely manipulate large amount of chemical agents."[31] It also stated that the chemical agents used in the Khan al-Assal chemical attack earlier in 2013 "bore the same unique hallmarks as those used in Al-Ghouta".[32][31][33]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack
Yes, I understand the glee of the cool smiley, but I don't see in that quote any indication that it was ever linked to an order by Assad. The place was in disorder, anyone could have smuggled it out from the stockpile.
Quote:
the perpetrators likely had access to the chemical weapons stockpile
This is literally the best they could do.
Do I think Assad was capable of using chemical weaponry?
Yes...
Quote:
Eight years ago, on the early morning of August 21, 2013, the Assad regime released the nerve agent sarin on its own people in the Ghouta district of Damascus, killing more than 1,400 Syrians, many of them children. The United States estimates that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons against the Syrian people at least 50 times since the conflict began. On this somber anniversary, we remember and honor all the victims of the Assad regime’s chemical weapons attacks.
https://www.state.gov/syria-eighth-anni ... ns-attack/
https://www.state.gov/syria-eighth-anni ... ns-attack/
03 Mar 2022, 7:42 pm
Pepe wrote:
r00tb33r wrote:
Pepe wrote:
r00tb33r wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Iraq came close….the only difference is that they only invaded ONE country.
They used biological weapons to seek to get rid of the Kurds and a mountain ethnic group whose name escapes me at the moment.
They used biological weapons to seek to get rid of the Kurds and a mountain ethnic group whose name escapes me at the moment.
Assange Assad used poison gas in Syria after Obama drew a line in the sand against it.
Thankfully, Assad back down.
Oh, wait.
I believe the weapons of mass destruction the west was looking for was more than poison gas.
Russia is known for its nerve gas, btw.
AFAIK that was never proven. Besides, the rationalization I heard was that he'd have to be out of his mind to think he can get away with using chemical weapons.
Quote:
The UN investigation team confirmed "clear and convincing evidence" of the use of sarin delivered by surface-to-surface rockets,[19][30] and a 2014 report by the UN Human Rights Council found that "significant quantities of sarin were used in a well-planned indiscriminate attack targeting civilian-inhabited areas, causing mass casualties. The evidence available concerning the nature, quality and quantity of the agents used on 21 August indicated that the perpetrators likely had access to the chemical weapons stockpile of the Syrian military, as well as the expertise and equipment necessary to safely manipulate large amount of chemical agents."[31] It also stated that the chemical agents used in the Khan al-Assal chemical attack earlier in 2013 "bore the same unique hallmarks as those used in Al-Ghouta".[32][31][33]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack
Yes, I understand the glee of the cool smiley, but I don't see in that quote any indication that it was ever linked to an order by Assad. The place was in disorder, anyone could have smuggled it out from the stockpile.
Quote:
the perpetrators likely had access to the chemical weapons stockpile
This is literally the best they could do.
Do I think Assad was capable of using chemical weaponry?
Yes...
Quote:
Eight years ago, on the early morning of August 21, 2013, the Assad regime released the nerve agent sarin on its own people in the Ghouta district of Damascus, killing more than 1,400 Syrians, many of them children. The United States estimates that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons against the Syrian people at least 50 times since the conflict began. On this somber anniversary, we remember and honor all the victims of the Assad regime’s chemical weapons attacks.
https://www.state.gov/syria-eighth-anni ... ns-attack/
https://www.state.gov/syria-eighth-anni ... ns-attack/
The US is a potentially interested party, with a conflict of interest in the matter of making such a statement.
Source for that assessment?
Quote:
surface-to-surface rockets
Could mean anything. Hamas makes their crude Qassam rockets in a garage to attack Israel. Syria is literally the same region.
03 Mar 2022, 8:09 pm
03 Mar 2022, 8:22 pm
kraftiekortie wrote:
My barbarian aspect wishes Putin could be eliminated through drastic means.
All Putin is doing is severe harm based upon delusional and untrue premises.
He’s harming his own people, as well as the Ukrainians (who, paradoxically, are considered by him to be his “own people.”)
All Putin is doing is severe harm based upon delusional and untrue premises.
He’s harming his own people, as well as the Ukrainians (who, paradoxically, are considered by him to be his “own people.”)
As I have mentioned, it is estimated that about 65% of russians support pootin.
03 Mar 2022, 8:23 pm
r00tb33r wrote:
Pepe wrote:
r00tb33r wrote:
Pepe wrote:
r00tb33r wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Assange Assad used poison gas in Syria after Obama drew a line in the sand against it.
Thankfully, Assad back down.
Oh, wait.
I believe the weapons of mass destruction the west was looking for was more than poison gas.
Russia is known for its nerve gas, btw.
AFAIK that was never proven. Besides, the rationalization I heard was that he'd have to be out of his mind to think he can get away with using chemical weapons.
Quote:
The UN investigation team confirmed "clear and convincing evidence" of the use of sarin delivered by surface-to-surface rockets,[19][30] and a 2014 report by the UN Human Rights Council found that "significant quantities of sarin were used in a well-planned indiscriminate attack targeting civilian-inhabited areas, causing mass casualties. The evidence available concerning the nature, quality and quantity of the agents used on 21 August indicated that the perpetrators likely had access to the chemical weapons stockpile of the Syrian military, as well as the expertise and equipment necessary to safely manipulate large amount of chemical agents."[31] It also stated that the chemical agents used in the Khan al-Assal chemical attack earlier in 2013 "bore the same unique hallmarks as those used in Al-Ghouta".[32][31][33]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack
Yes, I understand the glee of the cool smiley, but I don't see in that quote any indication that it was ever linked to an order by Assad. The place was in disorder, anyone could have smuggled it out from the stockpile.
Quote:
the perpetrators likely had access to the chemical weapons stockpile
This is literally the best they could do.
Do I think Assad was capable of using chemical weaponry?
Yes...
Quote:
Eight years ago, on the early morning of August 21, 2013, the Assad regime released the nerve agent sarin on its own people in the Ghouta district of Damascus, killing more than 1,400 Syrians, many of them children. The United States estimates that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons against the Syrian people at least 50 times since the conflict began. On this somber anniversary, we remember and honor all the victims of the Assad regime’s chemical weapons attacks.
https://www.state.gov/syria-eighth-anni ... ns-attack/
https://www.state.gov/syria-eighth-anni ... ns-attack/
The US is a potentially interested party, with a conflict of interest in the matter of making such a statement.
Source for that assessment?
Quote:
surface-to-surface rockets
Could mean anything. Hamas makes their crude Qassam rockets in a garage to attack Israel. Syria is literally the same region.
Let us agree to disagree.
03 Mar 2022, 8:29 pm
slam_thunderhide wrote:
In recent decades NATO has bombed Serbia, and aided the overthrown of Libya's government - both aggressive actions that had nothing to do with protecting NATO members. Instead of focusing on how NATO describe themselves, how about focusing on how they actually behave.
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Why did NATO bomb Serbia?
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NATO's intervention was prompted by Yugoslavia's bloodshed and ethnic cleansing of Albanians, which drove the Albanians into neighbouring countries and had the potential to destabilize the region.
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NATO's intervention was prompted by Yugoslavia's bloodshed and ethnic cleansing of Albanians, which drove the Albanians into neighbouring countries and had the potential to destabilize the region.
https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... bed+Serbia
Simply adding context.
03 Mar 2022, 8:31 pm
slam_thunderhide wrote:
No. What actual Russian satellites are there? Belarus? Satellites of the modern-day Russian state I mean, not countries that were once satellites of the former Soviet Union. People on this thread do realise that the Soviet Union no longer exists, right?
But russian territorial ambitions remain.
03 Mar 2022, 8:34 pm
VegetableMan wrote:
The U.S. certainty doesn't have any moral ground to stand on, at this point. Iraq was morally wrong and violated international law.
And not only Ammuuuria.
Australia was part of the war crime also, I believe.
