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22 Apr 2022, 10:37 pm

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SMiLes As Far as i'm Concerned

A Greatest Gift A Parent Will Give A Child

Is Unconditional Love For This Is The Gift That Truly

Resurrects And Carries On May That Be Your Legacy As It is

My Mother's Legacy As Well And Those Who She Received Unconditional

Love From As Well

As Unconditional Love
Will Always Love To See the
Student Do Greater Works Than The

Teacher For Unconditional Love is Not
Jealous Yet Experiences Compersion For the

Joy of Others And It's True For Every Person Who Has

Crossed Paths With me in my Life And Named me the Kindest

Person They've Ever Met Full Of LiGHT indeed That is the Legacy

Of my Mother's Unconditional Love Still Living Yes my FRiEnD Be That Hero too...

i Never Had

to Look Far

in my Life to
Find A 'Real Jesus' at Home...

More Often They Are the Archetype of 'Mary'
or in my Case 'Helen' Which Just Means Bringer oF LiGHT too..:)



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23 Apr 2022, 10:44 am

aghogday wrote:
^^^



SMiLes As Far as i'm Concerned

A Greatest Gift A Parent Will Give A Child

Is Unconditional Love For This Is The Gift That Truly

Resurrects And Carries On May That Be Your Legacy As It is

My Mother's Legacy As Well And Those Who She Received Unconditional

Love From As Well

As Unconditional Love
Will Always Love To See the
Student Do Greater Works Than The

Teacher For Unconditional Love is Not
Jealous Yet Experiences Compersion For the

Joy of Others And It's True For Every Person Who Has

Crossed Paths With me in my Life And Named me the Kindest

Person They've Ever Met Full Of LiGHT indeed That is the Legacy

Of my Mother's Unconditional Love Still Living Yes my FRiEnD Be That Hero too...

i Never Had

to Look Far

in my Life to
Find A 'Real Jesus' at Home...

More Often They Are the Archetype of 'Mary'
or in my Case 'Helen' Which Just Means Bringer oF LiGHT too..:)



I'm not a fan of unconditional love. Even in the Bible God is not what we'd describe as "all-loving." Why kill all the firstborns of Egypt to free the Israelites? That's an act of wrath, not love.

I don't think there's a problem with God both being a God of justice and a God of love. I see God's nature as one of balance--everything points to an ultimate goal or end that results in paradise for those who accept God and destruction for those who hate Him. I could even argue that God's justice is linked to God's love--God executes justice on those who do evil as an act of love for those who are victims of evil (not theologically accurate, but going with it for now). If God is to be described as all-loving, then one must accept God's wrath as a loving act. He hurts us because He loves us. While that certainly could be true, God's perfect goodness still logically requires that God hate evil. As long as God hates even one thing, even evil, He cannot be considered all-loving.

God's loving acts have always been conditional. God's covenants with His chosen people have always been conditional. God spared the tribe of Judah much longer than the Northern Kingdom because of a covenant God made with David. But with continued disobedience, God withdrew His covenant from them and allowed them to be invaded and taken into exile. Part of the deal was that His people obey Him. God displayed great patience with them until it came time for a reckoning.

As a model for parents, yes, we should always love our children. I don't think God stops loving those who reject Him or do evil. I don't think it's like that. But with your own children, I think you do them a disservice when one child hurts another child and, because you're a loving parent, you refuse to punish the one who caused harm. And I don't even mean corporal punishment, I mean you do absolutely nothing, no taking away privileges, no timeouts, no early bedtime, not even "let's talk about this." Taken to the logical extreme, when a child becomes dangerous, parents don't have to keep the child in the home if they don't want to. Boot camp, boarding school, military school, psych wards, detention centers, or just plain old-fashioned make them wards of the state (easier said than done, but doable). Parents don't have to tolerate dangerous kids. You might say "well, that's different, it's not about unconditional love," but Biblical descriptions of love were always about what people DO, not what people FEEL. You can't show love to someone who wants to kill you. You can't love anyone after you're dead. So you have to make a choice--are you going to tolerate people who hate you, even your own kids, at the cost of your own life? Or are you going to protect yourself and others you love from one dangerous person? It makes no difference if it's your kid. Love always has limits and conditions. We may all have a distant point of no return, but it's there.



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23 Apr 2022, 2:10 pm



Matthew 22:34 thru 40 From the King James Version:

"34 But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.
35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

Don't Feel Bad, if You Can And Will;

Sadly, Most of the Christians i Know

Still Focus on THAT Old God of the
Old Testament Full of Wrath and Hate
Against Those 'HE' Doesn't Agree with...

Of Course, There is DarK And LiGHT in Our Realities;

Of Course, i've Choked Someone into Submission in
A Bar Who Attacked me; Before i Even 'Thought' About
What i Was Doing to Defend my Life; That Happens too...

Yet THere is A Better Way...

i Don't Go To Places Any
More Where DRUNK FOOLS Start Fights With me....

i Live A Life of Unconditional Love And It is
100 Percent Great in the Kingdom of Heaven Within

Most Every Hour of the Day, Even in Dreams mY FRiEnD;

No Doubt This is Still

A Camel Entering

The Eye of A Needle

For Most Folks; YET It IS A Dream
Come True for Those of Us Who DO ACHIEVE IT NOW;

I'M NEVER ANXIOUS Now, I'M NEVER UNHAPPY Now; EVEN IN PAIN

Now i SMILE
Within

CAUSE

i Actually

Am Unconditional Love Now WITHOUT FEAR;

It's Not Really 'Natural', For all Practical
Intents and Purposes Now for the Way Most
Folks Practice Life; it is PRACTICALLY SUPERNATURAL

OR AT
LEAST
SUPER NORMAL FOR REAL...

There Are Really only Tiny Seeds
of Unconditional Love in the Old
Bible AS WHOLE, like the Ones above
From Matthew; My God of Love, Look

Around at the Human Condition is that

Any Surprise:

HELL NO;

This is a Place

With Teeth Gnashing,

A Whole Lot of FOLKS Weeping, With

Folks Consuming Each Other

And The Rest of Nature too;

Yet It's True, THere is the Other
World HeaR, i LiVE iN For Real too...

i Don't Expect You To Come Here;

i Don't Expect You to Live Here;

i Am No Fool on A Cross Willing

to Give my Life to the

Blind and Ignorant

Who Refuse

to Come, Who Have
No Way, Even if They want to either...

The Old Cliches Bringing The Horse to A Trough to Drink...

Giving Pearls to Swine; Even though Pigs are Lovely Creatures....

As i've already Been to the 'Other Places,' Devil Yes, i Understand
The HeLL ON EartH, The God of the Old Testament Represents too...

And Even in the Matthew part, Where the Unconditional Loving Jesus Changes

into the Old Testament God And Becomes A Villain Again, Instead of Loving Hero and
'PSYCHOPATHiCaLLY' Burns the Once Unconditionally Loved Enemies Forever in Misery
And Suffering And

You Know

What i am

No Fool

i Understand

That Could Happen
to me again; So True,

i Always Keep a Certain Distance From 'The Other Place' now too...

True, Online is As Close or Far Away As We Make Life Now Indeed too...

If We Are the Essence of Unconditional LoVE iNCaRNaTE For Real Now Affects/Effects

Every View

of Life We

Have Heaven,
Purgatory, or Hell Now
On Earth; i Surely Am Not
Powerful Enough to Carry Hell
For The Rest of the World; You
Are Right, the Place You Live Now is as Real as the Place i Live Now;

It's Part of Reality; Love for you to come and Visit; Yet i'm Not Here

to tale

anyone
else what
to Do; Oh, the
Measure of Free
Will; Hell to Heaven
We All Consume and Give Eternally Now...

Yeah It's True, Hell and Heaven and Purgatory
Exist Right HeaR Now Baby; Clear For Some of
Us to See For Those of Us Who Have Existed in All

Those Places For

Real Now...

i'll Stay in the
Place of Unconditional

Love; You Are Surely
Free to Go to Wherever You Will
And Choose Within the Parameters
of What This Life Gives That is Surely Not Fair...

Yet it is what it is...

Yet Only A Real Fool

Doesn't Make the Best of What is Now...

And Every Human Sees A Different Hell
to Purgatory And Heaven and For Some

Folks My Heaven

Would Surely

Be Their Hell...

It's Just the Way it is...

It's Just the Way It is... For Now at Least...

Meanwhile, Some Folks Are Counting on A
Brochure Attached to The Back of A Toilet they
Find in A Fast Food Joint in the Deep South That
Discusses A Magic Incantation of Romans 10:9 to:

Just Believe

A Dude Who
Died Comes
Back to Life

And Is the Entire
God of the Universe

And You Get A Free Ticket
to Heaven After Death Unless

You Don't Believe And Go to Hell
By the Back Page of the Brochure with
A Beast With A Tail With Horns in A Place of Coals and Fire...

It's True, So
Many Folks

Choose That Place
Now; So Many Folks

Never Even Look Within
to Find the Kingdom of Heaven
of Unconditional Love As They Are
So Damned Busy Focusing on that Beast with
The Tail in the Fire on The Back of the Brochure...

Or 'Trump' (the Meme)
at Least in
Real Life for
'The God'

They
Support
on Earth Now

Yep, We Become
What We Consume...

We Become What We Consume...

i Consume Flowers And Spit Out Fire
Occasionally too...

Depending on the

'Crowd Source'

i Hang Around With of Course...

Your Attitude about Life You Express Here is Prevalent
Where i Live; It's Usually Accompanied With Great

Discontent...

Good
Luck, Whatever

You Choose Next For Life and Or Love;

Or Whatever You Fall-In-Line Behind of Course too...

Dude, i See 'the Old Bible,' Overall, About As Valuable As
That Brochure on the Back of The Toilet Seat in the Fast Food Joint
For How it is Used Where

i Live at Least...

i AM
NOT
IMPRESSED

WITH ABOUT 99 PERCENT (ALL) OF iT...

THE VERSES ABOVE MEET MY GRADE OF LOVE
And That's About IT, Other than Luke 17:21 And John 14:12

AS i
Do See FiT.



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24 Apr 2022, 2:15 am

Let's not confuse unconditional love with unconditional praise.
Feedback on good and bad one does is part of loving them.
Communicating how another's actions make me feel is a regular element of love.
That's particularily important to avoid/get out of codependency and similar problems.


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24 Apr 2022, 5:31 am

magz wrote:
Let's not confuse unconditional love with unconditional praise.
Feedback on good and bad one does is part of loving them.
Communicating how another's actions make me feel is a regular element of love.
That's particularily important to avoid/get out of codependency and similar problems.

Agreed.

I take the Biblical view that love is an action, not an emotion. Even if love is an emotion, there’s not much point if it doesn’t manifest some sort of behavior. Punishing children is not loving behavior. Perhaps you correct children because you love them and want them to be decent human beings, and that’s well and good. But you don’t love the behavior that you’re correcting. Punishment or correction are hateful responses to unloveable behavior.

Love is something that is exchanged for things that are desired, even if what is desired is nothing more than the company of another person. Literally every paycheck I earn goes to my wife. I don’t keep a single penny for myself. What does she do to earn it? It’s enough that she wakes up next to me every morning. She doesn’t have a paying job otherwise. But because she wants to, she cleans my house and looks after my baby during the day. That wouldn’t be possible if I didn’t live with her or give her my money. Like it or not, love always has conditions.



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Matthew 22:34 thru 40 From the King James Version:

"34 But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.
35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."



I love it when Jesus teaches us to be selfish! You cannot love your neighbor as yourself without loving yourself first.

Do you remember what Jesus said when someone asked “who is my neighbor”?



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24 Apr 2022, 10:04 am

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I love it when Jesus teaches us to be selfish! You cannot love your neighbor as yourself without loving yourself first.

Do you remember what Jesus said when someone asked “who is my neighbor”?




HAha, No One Can or Will Ever Be Sure What So-called Jesus or Yeshua Said as He Was an Illiterate
Carpenter (If We Can Even Be Sure of What He Did for a 'Living') Who Spoke Aramaic Along With
The Rest of His Disciples Then; Yes, Again It's All Just a Story Handed Down in Changing Oral
Tradition From Decades; Since, The Reported Crucifixion of the Dude Jesus; As Creme of the Crop
Greek Writing Romans Cherry picked the Oral Traditions and or Changed Them to Their liking

And Wrote as Ghost Authors Then, Many Centuries Later Assigned Pen Names like Luke, John,
Matthew, And Mark; And Sure, It's Likely That a Dude Paul once Named Saul Existed and Used
The Story From His Visions That May Have Come From Either A Seizure as Often Attributed to
Mohammad And His Versions Plagiarized in Part From the old Stories too; Or Some Other Kind

of 'Mental' Anomaly As Such; and true He (the Muslim Dude) Was Illiterate too; And Actually Never Wrote
A Word Either As there is Controversy By His Closest Housemate That His Sayings Were Put Into Words Of

Print Inaccurately too;

Similar Issues are Attributed to the Probabilities We Actually Have Anything Written By An Actual
Human Being Anciently Reported As Socrates, Buddha, Krishna, And Lao Tzu as Well; All We Can

Be Sure Of In all these Cases Is We Have Stories That Comprise the Efforts of Innumerable Ghost
Authors NoW As Such and others; Given the Authority of Pen Names Much Later on; However

THAT Doesn't Mean the Stories are Any Less Valuable For The Wisdom They Do Bring,

We Can Agree on or not That Brings Greater Purpose and Meaning to Our Lives;

Yes, Like Living in a State of Unconditional Love Where We Have the Mercy

And Forgiveness of the 'Good Samaritan' Who Doesn't Reduce A
Stranger on the Road of Life

Less Worthy of Loving

Attention Now to Give,
Share, Care, And Heal

In An Altruistic Way Seeing

Humanity as One Big Family;

Seeing the Rest of Nature As One Big Family;

Where Indeed, the 'Wisdom Eye of the Pyramid,' if Ya
Wanna Use a Metaphor From Another Old Story of Horus

And Isis And Osiris; And Even Paraphrase it A Bit in More Liberal

Open Minded Ways that Do Naturally Bring Changes to Stories; Yes,

When We Come to Realize There is No Separation; There is No Separate
Self and Ego;

We Are All

All That Is And

Indeed We Are All God

This Way too; In the Sense

And Feel That We Hold All of Existence
DarK Thru LiGHT, Sacred And Holy in Meaning

And Purpose; Even if it Means With Due Respect, We Must Kill Another

Living Mammal and Eat it For Nourishment; Yet True, Like the Old 'Lion

King Movie' and the newest Rendition Related, The Lion May Eat the Antelope;

Yet The Lion One Day Will Fall to The Grass And Fertilize the Soils With its 'Timely' Decay

And Then The Antelope's Offspring Will Consume The Grass Fed By The Lion's Decay And The

Circle of
What is

Whole and

Never Separate

Will Continue on Eternally Now

DarK thru LiGHT; DarK Makes LiGHT;

DarK iS LiGHT; There is No Separation Of All That is...

It's True, Not Unlike Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Lao Tzu, and Socrates,

Per All Probabilities as Fictional Characters, Per the Stories Attributed

to them at Least, For the Most Part; Even Though the 'Lion King' is A Fictional

Character; It Doesn't take Anything Away From the Wisdom of the Story; Just

Like The Hope Any Myth or Non-Fictional Story Brings to Other Human Beings;

Story is Important; Stories Are The Source of Many Religions That Through
Similar Ideologies and Symbols, Humans Bond And Bind Over to Stick
Together The Best They Can And Will to Survive, Even Thrive;

Yet Humans Tend

to Vault Stories, Tribally into

Idols to Worship And Separate Themselves
in illusion From the Rest of Nature; Instead, of Just

Stories/Messages to Learn From in Wisdom Stories Bring...

And of Course, Everyone Has Their Interpretations of Stories

As All Stories Come By Metaphor that may be interpreted in Many Ways...

Not Everyone Interprets the 'Good Samaritan Parable' the Same Way; What You

Remember of that Parable in Meaning is Dependent on Your Unique Interpretation
Very Much Colored By Your Perceptions of Existence...

You've Already Said things Here Like You Don't
Much Like Unconditional Love and Altruism;

So Its 'Heir' Apparent That

You Don't View Existence

The Way Most Folks Do; (And That's
Okay; i Surely Do Not Either As Well)

As its Very Odd to Hear a So-Called
Christian Say They Don't Much Like

Unconditional Love or Altruism; Yet It's

(It's Very Odd Where i Live to Hear Anyone
Going to a Christian Church to admit Jesus
Is Likely Only A Story Where Wisdom May Be derived)

True, it May Even Be More Rare to See 'Christians' where i live,

Ironically, Actually Offer a Buck to the Robust Homeless Dude
on the Side of the Street Likely Seeing Visions, Similar to Paul too...

(Even though Later on in Matthew, the Penalty for Not doing that
is Burning Forever in Torture and Misery By Judgement of 'Jesus';
That's totally Contradictory and Ridiculous of Course for anyone
Who Suggests You Love The Enemy and Do Greater Works
As the Teacher As That Relates to Mercy, Forgiveness,
And Unconditional Love too)

It's Rather

Ironic;

It's All Rather

Ironic; Yet With Cognitive

Empathy And Greater Understanding

of 'the Beast' That Can And Will Be Human too...

It makes IT Easier

to Understand

'They Know Not
What They Do'

And They Feel
And Sense Not What i Do...

It's True, The Old Bible Needs Loads
of ReVision For Wisdom AS Humanity

Has Gained Much Wisdom Since That
Very FLaWeD Effort Was Put Forth Thousands

Of Years ago; Along With all the Revisions and Changes Since...

We Continue to Evolve And Progress; Those of Us With Open Minds Enough to Do it in change...

And i am Beginning to Celebrate 8 MiLLioN Words of Just One Sub-Chapter of my Personal "SonG of
mY SoUL" Bible As Sub-Titled "Nether Land Bible" As That Close to 71 Month Effort Is Just A Part of
The 10.4 MiLLioN Word Longest EPiC Long Form Poem Endeavor That is "SonG oF mY SoUL" Accomplished in

8 Years and 8 Months;

Yes Indeed, Do The Math, i Knock Out the Size of 10 King James Size Efforts in 70 Months
So Far, if One Adds A Few Words to the Old King James Size Effort as Yes, it takes me

On Average Now

7 Months For 800,00

Words Now For Then

What took All Those

Innumerable Ghost Authors,
Scribes, And Editors and the Such

Thousands of Years to do; That's
(Granted, 'They; Didn't Have the Technology, i Do Have)

What You (me at least) Call John 14:12, BABY, FOR REAL;

AND IT'S TRUE, ONE DAY SOMEONE MAY LIKELY DO MORE THAN me,

One Will

Hope at

Least With
Compersion;

Unconditional

Love; And Altruism Fully in Tow;

Where Does All this Energy Come From;

How Do i Still Leg Press up to 1520 Pounds

at Close to 62 Years-Old now; How to Do i Public
Dance 16,500 Miles Now in Close to 8 Years And 8 Months too;

The Good News is i am only A Man; The Good News is i Was Born
Functionally Disabled in Many Ways; The Good News is if i can Do this

Imagine What

Other Folks Will Do;

You Don't have to look

Far, my Efforts are only A Tiny

Drop in an Ocean of Human Potential,

Since the Old Dusty Days of the Old Imperfect
Writings of the Old Bible Were Done; It's True, Not Everyone

Stayed in the Cave
And Just Worshipped

That Book; Others Went Out

into Fair Winds, And Following

Seas And Found Paradises and Edens

New to Flourish and TRiVE iN More; And
Yes Indeed, Wrote Innumerable Stories of THeir
Own And Actually Did Them Too For Real As Well;

And Yes, This is 'the Condition'; This Human One
We aRe All Part of As the 'Guardians of the Galaxy
Volume Two Bible' Also Related in Theatrical Way;

'There Are Those

Who Dance;

And There Are

Those Who
Do Not;' Now,

In Short, i Dance
And Sing Free; i Love, i Breathe
Free Unconditionally Without Fear;
Naked Enough Whole Complete; Yes,

Inhaling Peace Exhaling LoVE iN JoY oF LiGHT Now;

Yes, Giving, Sharing, Caring, Healing For Everyone

i meet and Greet in

Life, Particularly

Those Who Have
Struggled as i have

In Life; Indeed, There Are

Many Views in Life my FRiEnD;

i Am Just Someone Who never gives up...

Considering the Shoes You Wear Now, it Seems
You are doing Okay enough to me, All STuFF Considered;

i Don't Agree
With Much of
Any Way You
Interpret the
Stories of the Old Bible;

Yet On the Other Hand;

That Applies to Most Everyone
i Will Be Sitting Next to in Church today;

i Only Go for the Dance And Song of Love;

i Tend to Discard The Rest As Chaff From Wheat...

It's Not Hard for me to Do; As i am Slave to No One Else's Story of Life...

At Core Really
That's Basically
The Story of Jesus
in A 'Nutshell' too;

He Felt the Old Story
Needed Revision; And It's
True Back in those Days Then
Without the Freedom of Expression

We Have today; Someone Would Have
Surely Been Crucified For Rising Against

the Old Tide...

i Am Not
Impressed
With 'Alabama Football'
Either; If You Can't See The Metaphor, i do...

These Are Different Days; These Are 'Twitter
Days'; i am too 'Big' to For Any of 'Those Folks' to see...

And Totally Safe
This Way for
Whatever

i Relate,
Different
From the
HEaRD of Past;

It's Also A Way
of A 'Bard' and 'Fili';

It's Nothing ReAlly 'New'...

Yet the Messages of Change Do still
Get Delivered to Other Audiences, Free at Hand;

Just Old Irish in A New World Again With 'Lucky Charms' Free...

Anyway, it
Seems
Pagan
Sunday (May Day)
Is Next Sunday, Hehe...

And i'll Be Celebrating that
on a Southern Baptist Pastor's
First Sunday Dinner on the Grounds of His Farm...

i
Get
Around..

Catholic
Church Coming Next...

After That Dancing At
the Mall And Barnes and
Noble Bookstore Reading
Another Book For Free Listening
to Meditative Music Entertaining
the Star Buck's College Student
Crowd With Free Dance; After That i'll
Probably Visit Egypt and India Through This

Fiber Optic Cable too...

These Days are the Best Now, So Far, i've Seen
or Known For Damned Sure...

There is Almost

Nothing i Do

That is

So-called
'Politically Correct'; HAha,
i'm in A Best And Only Real Company (Change).



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^^^ So you’ll quote Jesus all day long until something Jesus said in context refutes your point? All of a sudden Jesus is an illiterate carpenter? Priceless!



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AngelRho wrote:
^^^ So you’ll quote Jesus all day long until something Jesus said in context refutes your point? All of a sudden Jesus is an illiterate carpenter? Priceless!




Dude, i Interpret the Poetry
Of The Bible Written By
A Bunch of Unknowns
Thousands of Years

Ago Much

Different

Than You
As i Really
LiVE iN Paradise
On EartH, Both on
The Outside And Yes
Within; You’ve Already

Described Your ‘Randian’
Inspired Reality; Is It Any Surprise

You Interpret JeSuS As A
Selfish Human: Short Answer: No

Poetry isn’t up
For Debate; Only
Interpretation; And
Your Views Surely
Reflect The You

You Describe As
Mine Naturally
Do Too; THere

Is only
One Person
To Debate
In This

Conversation;
If You Want to
Hold That Debate
With Your ‘Randian’

Inspired Views; Not Too
Far off From The Other

So-Called Christians i ‘View’…

And
That’s
Okay; Somewhat
Disappointing; Yet

IT
Is
What IT IS;
Yep, DarK Thru LiGHT,
In Terms of Love

More
LiGHT
Than DarK…



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aghogday wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
^^^ So you’ll quote Jesus all day long until something Jesus said in context refutes your point? All of a sudden Jesus is an illiterate carpenter? Priceless!




Dude, i Interpret the Poetry
Of The Bible Written By
A Bunch of Unknowns
Thousands of Years

Ago Much

Different

Than You



Ah, so it's just “interpration.” So I can safely ignore your “interpration” as irrelevant. Got it.



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24 Apr 2022, 8:50 pm

AngelRho wrote:
Ah, so it's just “interpration.”
So I can safely ignore your
“interpration” as irrelevant. Got it.




Considering, There is 45,000 Plus Denominations, Globally of Christianity,
Most All of Which, Believe They have the Correct Interpretation of The Bible;
And Considering, If one Goes to the Same Church With Different Pastors or

Priests Preaching, One May Also Receive Drastically Different Interpretations
From Those Two or More Ministers; And Considering One May Interview Many

Congregants As i Have Done in the Past As An Anthropology Participant Observer
in the Many Churches in my Local Area; And Many Other Religions; And Yes, Among

Many Other Folks Within Different Sects of Those Religions, Globally, All With Different Interpretations

Of the Same Poetic Texts, No Matter What Their Holy and Sacred Valued Book or God is Called....

Yes, Interpretation

Is What One Gets When
One Asks Someone Else

What They Believe in Life;

And It's Fascinating As One Poem

May Work Very Similar as a Personality
And Or Rorschach Test; Smiles, i Consider 'the

Source' When it Comes to 'Ink Blot' Interpretations;

In Other Words; More Or Less, the Whole Bible is an Ink
Blot, When it Comes to Religious, Denominational, in Sect,

And Individual Interpretations; And As Much as One Might like

To Think They Have the One True Interpretation; Go Ahead And Believe
That As They May;

Yet,

i'm not
Buying it as
my World View

is Much Different
Than Theirs; Obviously,

Like Night and Day; And that's
Okay with me; i Find Ink Blot Test
Results Fascinating; Yet There is No

Way to Measure Poetry Interpretations
in Any Real Discrete And Scientific Way;

It's Kind of Hilarious, When Folks Try to
Make a Science of it And Put 'God and Poetry'
in a Straight Jacket of their Own MaKinG; It's like

Holding

Wind in

A Jar Prisoner

And Feeling the Breeze...

And No, That's Not supposed to make sense...

Dude, Typically, Most Everyone Thinks Someone

Else Who Has A Different Interpretation of Their
Holy and Sacred Book Has An Irrelevant Opinion;

That's Certainly
No New News to me...

Ad Nauseam As Such as

Many Interpretations and
Folks Who Consider themselves
The One True Jailor of This or That Poem...

Even The Writers of Many Poems Won't Give

You the Original Meaning of Their Poems;
And Some of them Are Intended With No Meaning at all;

Although, You'll
Still Find Folks Insisting
They Have the One True Meaning;
And Hold On to it Like a Dog with
A Nice Juicy Steak Bone; For Whatever Reason...

However, Science Shows it's Typical of More Literal,
Black And White, More Left Brain Restricted Minds;

As Current Science Suggests That Intuition and Interpretation
Is More A Gift of the Right Hemisphere By Process at Least in Current Research;

Specifically,
By Iain McGilchrist,
Considered an Expert
on the Topic, Modernly As Such...

It's Fascinating As Literal Thinking Folks
Who Did Paint By Numbers Poetry in Online
Poetry Clubs Had Has Much Difficulty Understanding
my Metaphors as Some Folks Do on this Internet Site;

And That's Not Surprising That Systemizing Minds Would
Have Difficulty With Metaphors, Poetry, Intuition, Imagination,
Social-Empathic-Artistic-Spiritual-Emotional-Intelligences All assessed

More in the Realm
of Right Hemisphere
Processes and it's True
When i Scored 45 On the
AQ Scan, So Much More Difficult
For me, Until i Unpacked those Right
Brain Hemisphere Processes Scoring 11 Now;

It Seems, Simon Baron Cohen's Research is Good for
that; However, Not Every Person Diagnosed on the Autism
Spectrum Scores High on that AQ Scan Either; It's Just A Screening tool...

i Write As An Exploration of my Soul Within; Response is Inconsequential to me...

Yet i Surely
Do Not Mind
It as it only
Serves LiGHT
or DarK Muse For
Additional Soul Exploration..:)



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24 Apr 2022, 8:59 pm

aghogday wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Ah, so it's just “interpration.”
So I can safely ignore your
“interpration” as irrelevant. Got it.




Considering, There is 45,000 Plus Denominations, Globally of Christianity,
Most All of Which, Believe They have the Correct Interpretation of The Bible;
And Considering, If one Goes to the Same Church With Different Pastors or

Priests Preaching, One May Also Receive Drastically Different Interpretations
From Those Two or More Ministers; And Considering One May Interview Many

Congregants As i Have Done in the Past As An Anthropology Participant Observer
in the Many Churches in my Local Area; And Many Other Religions; And Yes, Among

Many Other Folks Within Different Sects of Those Religions, Globally, All With Different Interpretations

Of the Same Poetic Texts, No Matter What Their Holy and Sacred Valued Book or God is Called....

Yes, Interpretation

Is What One Gets When
One Asks Someone Else

What They Believe in Life;

And It's Fascinating As One Poem

May Work Very Similar as a Personality
And Or Rorschach Test; Smiles, i Consider 'the

Source' When it Comes to 'Ink Blot' Interpretations;

In Other Words; More Or Less, the Whole Bible is an Ink
Blot, When it Comes to Religious, Denominational, in Sect,

And Individual Interpretations; And As Much as One Might like

To Think They Have the One True Interpretation; Go Ahead And Believe
That As They May;

Yet,

i'm not
Buying it as
my World View

is Much Different
Than Theirs; Obviously,

Like Night and Day; And that's
Okay with me; i Find Ink Blot Test
Results Fascinating; Yet There is No

Way to Measure Poetry Interpretations
in Any Real Discrete And Scientific Way;

It's Kind of Hilarious, When Folks Try to
Make a Science of it And Put 'God and Poetry'
in a Straight Jacket of their Own MaKinG; It's like

Holding

Wind in

A Jar Prisoner

And Feeling the Breeze...

And No, That's Not supposed to make sense...

Dude, Typically, Most Everyone Thinks Someone

Else Who Has A Different Interpretation of Their
Holy and Sacred Book Has An Irrelevant Opinion;

That's Certainly
No New News to me...

Ad Nauseam As Such as

Many Interpretations and
Folks Who Consider themselves
The One True Jailor of This or That Poem...

Even The Writers of Many Poems Won't Give

You the Original Meaning of Their Poems;
And Some of them Are Intended With No Meaning at all;

Although, You'll
Still Find Folks Insisting
They Have the One True Meaning;
And Hold On to it Like a Dog with
A Nice Juicy Steak Bone; For Whatever Reason...

However, Science Shows it's Typical of More Literal,
Black And White, More Left Brain Restricted Minds;

As Current Science Suggests That Intuition and Interpretation
Is More A Gift of the Right Hemisphere By Process at Least in Current Research;

Specifically,
By Iain McGilchrist,
Considered an Expert
on the Topic, Modernly As Such...

It's Fascinating As Literal Thinking Folks
Who Did Paint By Numbers Poetry in Online
Poetry Clubs Had Has Much Difficulty Understanding
my Metaphors as Some Folks Do on this Internet Site;

And That's Not Surprising That Systemizing Minds Would
Have Difficulty With Metaphors, Poetry, Intuition, Imagination,
Social-Empathic-Artistic-Spiritual-Emotional-Intelligences All assessed

More in the Realm
of Right Hemisphere
Processes and it's True
When i Scored 45 On the
AQ Scan, So Much More Difficult
For me, Until i Unpacked those Right
Brain Hemisphere Processes Scoring 11 Now;

It Seems, Simon Baron Cohen's Research is Good for
that; However, Not Every Person Diagnosed on the Autism
Spectrum Scores High on that AQ Scan Either; It's Just A Screening tool...

i Write As An Exploration of my Soul Within; Response is Inconsequential to me...

Yet i Surely
Do Not Mind
It as it only
Serves LiGHT
or DarK Muse For
Additional Soul Exploration..:)



Cool story, bro.



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24 Apr 2022, 10:23 pm

0. Magz, don't arbitrarily redefine words to suit your argument.

1. Sex and gender are synonymous. They mean the same thing which means biologically. That's It!! !

2. You may have a man with what society may consider non-biological feminine traits and you may have a woman with what society may consider non-biological masculine traits. Some boys may love to play with dolls and some girls may love to play with trucks. Nothing wrong with this at all.

3 They are still men and women.

4. The only possible exceptions to this is those who have a form of hermaphroditism and sex chromosomal disorder. When I feel up to this I'm going to more research on this and see what the professionals have to say on this.

5. To state otherwise, is to deny reason, logic and reality.

6. Because of this biological reality, trans-women who are biological men who have taken testosterone suppressants and/or had sex reassignment surgery should not be allowed to compete in women's sports.

7. I use logic and reason to understand the world and reality. I'm not going to deny reality, reason and logic to satisfy some emotional whims and call men women and women men when men are men and women are women.



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24 Apr 2022, 10:25 pm



Like Certain
Aspects of
Our Bodies

We all Have 'ONE'...

To Be 'Politically Correct,' at Least..;)



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24 Apr 2022, 10:34 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
0. Magz, don't arbitrarily redefine words to suit your argument.

1. Sex and gender are synonymous. They mean the same thing which means biologically. That's It!! !

2. You may have a man with what society may consider non-biological feminine traits and you may have a woman with what society may consider non-biological masculine traits. Some boys may love to play with dolls and some girls may love to play with trucks. Nothing wrong with this at all.

3 They are still men and women.

4. The only possible exceptions to this is those who have a form of hermaphroditism and sex chromosomal disorder. When I feel up to this I'm going to more research on this and see what the professionals have to say on this.

5. To state otherwise, is to deny reason, logic and reality.

6. Because of this biological reality, trans-women who are biological men who have taken testosterone suppressants and/or had sex reassignment surgery should not be allowed to compete in women's sports.

7. I use logic and reason to understand the world and reality. I'm not going to deny reality, reason and logic to satisfy some emotional whims and call men women and women men when men are men and women are women.


Modern Science Says You Are Incorrect.

i Suggest You Do A Little Research,
Before You Jump to Conclusions;

Additionally, My Previous
Response was not to You,

Just to be clear...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction


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25 Apr 2022, 12:27 am

^
It appears the distinction is not without its critics though:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_g ... istinction

I see some justification in viewing gender as a construction, a theory, rather than a proven fact. To date I can't honestly say I see a need for having two separate labels. I'm not violently opposed to there being two, just that if there must be, I'd appreciate a clear, conclusive explanation as to why.