should it be acceptable to call people nazis and fascists?

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Maybe not. I think there's more of a consensus these days that fascists are scum, but communists, not so much. So "communist" isn't quite such a pejorative term. Looking at the etymology of the word, it just means somebody who wants things to be done in a more collective, communal way.

Depends on the context. If you declare your teaching your kids to be "commies" in front of parents at a football game in a predominantly white republican stronghold they will move away from you like you have leprosy.

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Indeed, the consensus that communists are scum would be fairly strong in some places. It's kind of similar for atheists. As an Englishman I was quite surprised to read this kind of thing:
https://twin-cities.umn.edu/news-events ... inority-us
And even fascism is worn as a badge of honour by some, though it's probably comparatively rare.
So much depends on the views of the local culture and the views of the "accused." Therefore identifying a truly pejorative term can be quite complicated.

The fact that so many people are starting to side with communists now really troubles me.

But overall you are correct. Communism < Fascism in terms of its negative pejorative impact.

Tell that to the ppl who suffered under the jackboots of the USSR, my family included.
"Socialist Republic", my arse.

Any autistic person embracing fascism is a fool, period.

Tell that to my parents.

Yes I am sure experience changes the equation. I recall meeting older migrants from eastern Europe who had horror stories about the Russians. So I guess for them communism gives them PTSD

I think you're missing the point, which is that fewer people overall would feel offended to be called communist than to be called fascist, not that nobody in the world would dislike being called communist.

Depends on the individual's circumstances I think. Some might well be personally better off in a fascist regime.

Autistic people would be cannon fodder for any fascistic regime…..

Probably true for what passes for communist regimes too. Same would apply to homosexuals which is why I'll always be against embracing communist propaganda.

Communist societies are against LGBTQ rights. The people on the left who defend and promote Communism while pretending to care about our rights should really read about some of the horrific things Fidel Castro did to the homosexuals in Cuba.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fidel-cas ... gay-rights

Probably in general, yes. But strange things happen with fascism. Mr.Hitler would logically have been cannon fodder for his own eugenics programme, being dark-haired, somewhat short, and possibly monotesticular. It's not inconceivable that a fascist dictator might treat an Aspie very well if their talents were considered an asset to the cause. But I wouldn't much fancy my chances. Mind you, I got on surprisingly well with a boss whose nickname was (with some justification) Satan.

A quick read of history and you'll find adult autistic people were being sterilised in Nazi Germany as feeble minded and children were often terminated. Hans Asperger made an attempt to protect autistic children under his care whom he identified as "high functioning" and sold the idea they could be useful to the regime because of their intelligence.

Asperger's coining of the term "little professors" has been carried into the modern era and probably influenced the eventual diagnosis of Aspergers as a separate disorder from autism based largely on IQ/intelligence.

It's a great pity that Asperger avoided jail after WWII as after his death it came to light he handed over other children in his care for extermination. Any wonder many Aspies feel uncomfortable to be labelled after a nazi war criminal who slipped through the cracks and avoided prosecution.

The only time I've referred to someone as a Nazi was when I met what I would consider to be a Modern day Nazi. At first I thought he was joking, that he just had a messed up sense of humour, but then I discovered that he was genuinely sincere in his beliefs. He wrote academic essays in support of the Nazi Party, but backpedaled a little by saying that the Nazi Party 'went a bit far' regarding its treatment of Jewish People. I was in absolute shock and wondered if he was trolling, but as time went on I realised that he genuinely believed the hate he was spewing. The idea that someone in the modern day could sit through history class and agree with the Nazis seemed unfathomable. When he shoved his essay in front of me and asked me to read it and provide my opinion, I believe I simply blurted "What is wrong with you?" which granted wasn't very tactful but I'm not sure how else I was meant to react.

Yet modern day Nazis exist. People who genuinely support Nazism. It was an uncomfortable reminder that such vile hatred never fully goes away, that the past is not some distant isolated event but rather another piece of the world.

However, I would never refer to someone as a Nazi in an off-hand manner. Which is why terms such as 'FemiNazi' irk me a lot. I've heard people refer to certain strands of Feminism as such, especially the more extreme parts that either border on or are explicitly forms of misandry. I'm not a fan of misandry, however combining Feminist with the word Nazi blatantly doesn't make any sense. It's a contradiction. Some people consider this pedantic, but it bothers me. You can't have a feminist Nazi.

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