different faiths all lead to god?

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There are a group of religions called "the right hand path", all of them root from the same god. That doesnt mean there arent other religions that have nothing to do with this So literally all faiths cant be lead by or to the same god, only certain ones that correspond with eachother in a certain way.

With the infancy gospel I got confused with Timothy. That's why I said it was Thomas, afterward.

Don't forget, it took the Council of Nicaea at least another 15 years (up to about 327 CE) to make the final judgement on what was to be included. It also proves the political as well as religious motives for why certain books were declared 'canon', because as I've said before, had they used any or all of the other books, their intent would not have had the effect that it did, and said intent was to get the masses to believe that there was only one God, and one way to heaven. Didn't matter that the Romans all had to convert to Christianity either, so long as they could still have some sort of power over what was being said, it didn't bother them. The Romans, politically, could have thought there was more value in taking over Christianity by using and publishing the scriptures in their own way, thus making the Christians believe they weren't that bad afterall. As Baldrick would say, 'a cunning plan'. Doubt it, though. There was an agenda, and we may never know the intricacies of it, and that's why the book was severely edited. Besides, had they translated it properly, even the heavy editing may not have worked and we may have gotten the true meaning.

wasnt two of the oigional 4 books of the nt written by the same person? and were they actually writtine by matthew mark luke and john?

if they werent i dont know how you could consider them more of the truth than any of the books that were left out

Mark is suppose to be the first book written, and probably Mathew and Luke may have used it as a source material.

BUT some scholars place the gospel of Thomas as
the earliest.


As to a fun little game on the assembling of the
'True Faith':
http://www.gamecabinet.com/sumo/Issue16 ... Credo.html

Damn right.

RB, find a website where there is searchable text of the koran and search "friend", then do the same for the New Testatment. Then tell me you still think Christianity and Islam are compatible.

well, there is this supposed "Q" gospel that some say it might have been a source for Mark and the other two gospels as well, suggesting that the Thomas gospel was probably part of it, I think.

again i dont think muslims pray to be seen, or do it because there slaves. its just submission. im not an expert on islam but impretty shure they hold alot of the same values christains do.

doesnt jesus say if your eyes cause you to sin, to pluck it out? am i supose to litterly pluck out my eye if i sin? is jesus into selfmutalation?

i dont think so. same can be said for alot of the "violence" or hostility in islam, most muslims are probably not terrorist you know.

like what

Some moslems say there are similarities like "thou shalt not kill" and claims the Koran condemns killing "You shall not kill any person - for GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice……."(17:33) http://www.submission.org/abortion.html

But this is BS and not what the Koran says, which actually is http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/k ... yte=429259 :




Those who disbelieve are Jews and Christians (some moslems try to says they are not)


Do a search on "kill" in the Koran and you will see lots of passages where it says killing is not only OK, but that it should be done without mercy.

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ok well im sure theres plenty of violence in the bible aswell. i cant be arsed to nitpick through it right now though whatabout stoning people? wasnt that popular in the old&new testement. i guess i see those three religons as pretty much identical. one really isnt more evil than the other, there all equally evil

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not in the New (Christian) Testament. Jesus said to love your enemies and to do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

The Koran is totally incompatible with that.

Maybe the difference is there are more hypocrites who call themselves Christian, but who don't act like Christians

hm ok. jesus said alot of things though. but i'll look into it

Bazz: taken literally, that may mean that Jesus is telling people to kill because they would be killed themselves (like what you are saying about muslims). Also, the old testament is where you find the 'eye for an eye' analogy. Yes, depending on how it is read, and what you are taught, it is quite brutal.

Thank the gods my beliefs aren't likely to get me into trouble like that (unless another inquisition comes along, then I'm screwed).

you look at the solution wrong.


you're saying that the end result is the road. but the road is just the means of getting around. the end is the result...someone who is more humble, more forgiving, more submissive....that's what's at the end. god is just a means.

Correct, you just didn't get the right word emphisized. Let's stand in his sandles for a minute and say it. I am the way. If you have a hard time standing in his sandles, look through your readings with that in mind, he says it's an ok thing to do. It's the worst kept secret in the world. It's just too simple to see and it's everywhere. Now that my friend is a wonderful feeling. Almost makes you want to be reborn everyday, but see, you can. He wasn't the first to see it, nor the last. He sure wouldn't mind if someone had said it first and they had and he did ask you to repeat it, did he not? label? naw get you in trouble, starts wars and stuff, he never called it christianity now did he. Give the guy some damn credit, but don't give em credit he didn't ask for. yup sharp guy, one of my heroes.

That's fine for all those who follow the Christian faith; but what about the billions that don't? The muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists, Pagans (including Wiccans and Druids), pantheists, and even atheists as well? They believe differently, and therefore don't believe that Jesus was their saviour and their only path to the hereafter. Christians can believe what they want, but they shouldn't try to convert everyone and say that no-believers will perish.