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They dont need to "justify" anything about eating Big Macs.

The seven deadly sins are indeed not "Biblical".

And Christians arent really expected to be perfect anyway. Just "forgiven". We are ALL sinners according to Christ teaching
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Eating Big Macs is rather minor as a "sin" anyway.

The OP is committing the sin of mortal silliness to bring it up.

There are other issues with the Religious Right that are more pressing IMHO (pressing both as issues and pressing as examples of possible hypocrisy). Like being vindictive, and voting for someone like Trump who is vengeful and vindictive, when Christ said to "turn the other cheek".

Also the OP cant make up his mind which group he is talking about. Christians in general (sixty percent of the US population) or "Christian Nationalists" ( maybe one percent of the US population). Not the same. Though both groups have a high percentage of folks who eat Big Macs I am sure.

When people are stressed they crave carbs , they causes the brain to release serotonin.

People with limited cooking skills crave anything someone else made.

Should be craving learning cooking skills.

It’s not rocket surgery stuff. Food + heat = cooked food.

Technically a kitchen isn’t even required. My friend cooks steaks on rocks in a fire at the beach, another gathers Dungeness crabs out of the ocean by hand with no trap and boils ‘em up over a beach fire.

Cooking isn’t some elusive skill only possessed by red seal chefs and it doesn’t have to be super complicated or involve more than a few simple ingredients.

I would think that on an autism forum of all places it would be understood that executive dysfunction is a very real thing.
For us, it comes inherent with the autism. But neurotypicals can and do experience executive functioning deficits due to stress, illness, mental illness, burnout, etc.

And this society we live in, the work culture, very much encourages burnout and dedicating your life to your stupid job. Once you clock out, there is far too often no energy left to do other things.


I can cook. I can follow a recipe. I have done so, and attempted very hard at doing so for years. Knowing how to cook and being able to consistently prepare my own meals are very different things. I can make myself cook maybe once a month.... my biggest record so far has been two fully prepared meals in one week.

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Agreed!

Humans have been working full time jobs in similar economies for thousands of years.. and still, people need to eat food every day soooo, very basic cooking of simple meals is an essential life skill.

Again, used to be that people had families and split up the workload. One person, usually a man, worked, and another person, usually a woman, cooked and did housework. With that structure less in vogue these days, it's definitely harder.

I'm not saying we should go back to the 1950's, not at all, but I am saying that things change and that affects everything.

There are lots of wonderful cooks and chefs who are overweight or obese.

Mmhmm, so people have to adapt. Batch cook and eat the same thing for 3-5+ days if cooking daily is too much. But no matter which way you slice it people need to eat soooo.. groceries + preparation & heat = hot cooked meals to eat.

I have been trying to do exactly that for literal years, and that same advice has come from at least 2 therapists.

Many people are emotional eaters. Some people have binge eating disorder or bulimia. This is a really complex topic that involves multi-faceted issues. Just eating a little over maintenance will make a person obese over time. I would not classify that as gluttony.

I just feel this s**t is so much easier said than done. Especially when you have a mental disorder that affects your ability to care for yourself.
I have tested as having definitely below average executive functioning ability. Not saying that means don't try, but holy s**t, it's hard and while there are tips and tricks, it never goes away. It will always be harder for me to accomplish daily tasks than it is for the neurotypical person next to me.

Most people here understand this completely. I think patience and being kind to yourself are really important when it comes to this stuff. In my experience, beating yourself up over personal struggles just makes things worse. This isn't a moral issue. Making small, meaningful changes that work with your specific needs and challenges is the way to go in my opinion.

Yeah, to some degree I've accepted that I need to make gradual changes. And if I can never advance beyond a certain point, that's ok. Right now I'm working on daily walking if/when possible, and packing my house only or at least 99% with healthier things to munch on. Hard to do when you live with two other people who don't have the same commitment though!

But you guys don't get it, we're supposed to be judgmental and boil the problem down to people (Christians in particular) being too stupid and lazy, rather than analyzing all of these relevant factors that contribute to why people might be making those sorts of dietary choices.

The goal of the thread isn't to have a nuanced discussion about the factors that contribute to obesity, it's to pat ourselves on the back for being more fit than those obese Christian rednecks, who are only obese due to being too stupid and lazy to make wholesome food from scratch for every meal and instead dare to eat Big Macs - I can't remember the last time I ate a big mac - maybe one in the last 10-15 years ? Aren't I great?!

If you dare bring up financial situation, here's a bunch of tips that might not even be applicable. Who cares if they don't have a freezer, cold room, pantry, etc? Just buy in bulk is advice that's applicable to everyone, no exceptions.

What's ironic is that a portion of Christian Nationalists are also crunchies who'd 100% agree with goldfish, until they realize he's mostly using obesity as WWF folding chair to slug Christian Nationalists with.

I don't think any of us would dispute that a lot of people make poor dietary choices. Personal responsibility is undeniably a factor, along with being adequately educated on the topic, along with being able to set aside the time to prepare healthy food, along with the self-discipline to not make homemade food that's even worse than restaurant food, etc, etc.

People are monkeys with better abstract reasoning, but only when we're actively employing it. Otherwise we're easily manipulated by bright colours and what will trigger the next dopamine cycle. One of the downsides to the sort of economy we live in is that junk food is everywhere and it's almost always the easiest option. Heh, the stupid monkey takes the easy food over the hard food, how stupid pretty much has the logic backwards, the easiest food has historically been something we're programmed to take because we couldn't count on getting those calories.

The companies that sell that stuff are doing what we incentivize them to do (make money by selling their product). The people buying it are doing what biology predisposes them to.

It's not all about them being stupid, it's also about us collectively being too stupid to understand that this is a very foreseeable problem and to maybe regulate that sort of industry.