Socialism and Relationships

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Well, this got weird real fast. Here we go, I guess.

People unable to interact with others in socially acceptable and appropriate ways get left out of things like relationships Unless they meet someone that's super into them and their awkwardness/they can overlook it well enough etc. That's the way the world works, like it or not.

Why anyone would want to be in a relationship where someone is forced to give them a chance and then feels obligated by a bias system to form a relationship and stay in it is beyond me. I'd rather be single than feel someone was with me because some database and a government weenie or two told them they were a match with me. F that.

Some autistic people are involuntarily celibate, so it's accurate. Some NT's are incels as well. So what?

I never said I support a caste system, ie Indian systems. But I acknowledge that there are social, socioeconomic, and financial hierarchies that exist in the world and are pretty strong indicators of who might date or marry who. Such is life.

I never said anything about eugenics or nazis.

I'm not neurotypical. I'm Very high functioning ASD. I function as highly as I do because ~10-11 years ago I figured out the root cause of my ASD symptoms and how to treat them via diet and natural medicines and have made an effort to maintain myself ever since. I still have ups and downs in functioning levels, but overall my baseline remains Far Higher than my functioning worst ~12 years ago.

I want to go back to University again instead of just daydreaming about it. Other than that, I'd only ever want a relationship if it were Real. Otherwise I accept that I'm not the type of person that's wired to attract a long term partner - kinda sucks, but it is what it is and I Can do all sorts of other things like ride my motorcycle or go kiteboarding on the ocean.

This system would be really weird if it were directly added to the current capitalist countries.

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Encouraged sounds an awful lot like forced. Are their penalties if I tell them to f**k off and take my name off their list?

"Hermiting," isn't "approved of." Too f*****g bad if that's my Choice. I have periods where I don't want to talk to or see people - no government system is going to Force me to. F that. In real life I have dozens and dozens of friends in large part because of the community I'm a part of at a local beach I hang out at, but, no government weeinie is going to tell me I must go hang out with people at any time in my life. I do it because I Want to. And sometimes I don't want to so I don't. Or I want to go to the beach but not hang out with anyone so I'll go somewhere in solitude. etc. People simply just do what's right for them and make the most of how they're wired. No government weenie intervention required.

People would have a laugh and opt out at best and burn the offices down at worst. There's no way people would accept being forced to try out other people a friends or partners. The whole concept just sounds.. strange and synthetic, something out of some sort of dystopian sci-fi fantasy movie where I'd expect people to rebel against the system by the end of the movie, tear it down, and then it ends with some couple Choosing to form a new relationship together based on natural attraction.

What I mean is that the democratic big government is something that the people have never seen before, and they are accustomed to think of it as the feudal bureaucrats or capital tax collectors they have seen. Just like what Goldfish said, people think that relationships are arranged by the government.
In fact, those bureaucrats will not implement a system that you do not approve of.
I think that even monogamy is backward, that emancipation means taking off all restraints, but this view is so radical that I can't even tell myself how it should work.

Now that you elaborated with further context and a bit of your own personal life, I stand corrected. However, it is necessary that in order to prevent autistic people from developing hateful views towards others just because they didn't get what they've wanted, we have to offer some of them a helping hand to bring them to the light at the end of the long tunnel of loneliness. Male incels are often misogynist because they believe that women are the problem to society and advocate for extreme reactionary (often patriarchal) principles such as women not being eligible for workplaces. They also may consider any individual who had sex with their partner "undesirable" which would lead to a caste system that would purge anyone who had sex and at that point, it would be a whole new level of esoteric Nazism in which incels see themselves as the master race.

As I've stated, MAROF system works that it will offer a program for lonely people to build on their self-confidence which is the first step towards obtaining a good human relationship. Once completed, the autistic people will be rewarded and will be granted a friend who is like-minded and has a level of understanding autism. If an autistic person genuinely cannot find any other means of help then it is up to MAROF to decide on the fate of the individual and offer them a chance in a happy life. After the autistic individual is mostly content, MAROF will limit its interference unless for emergency situations.

It sounds like you're always talking about the marital problems of autistic people, which are as bad a solution as putting patches on rags. Ask politely: As an autistic person, and on behalf of yourself, what do you want in a marriage? child? vaginal? Embrace? Small talk? parents? labor? housework?
Everyone has begun to discuss the new social system and still clinging to the old marriage relationship looks like a peasant discussing that the emperor has endless black buns.

Personally, a polygamous relationship would be too much given my autism. Then again, MAROF would have no issue with polygamy if the people in that relationship are content with one another. The idea of "arranged" relationships isn't only with the governments but also the families. Families can too arrange relationships and marriages. And then you have religious institutions responsible for carrying out wedding ceremonies because they rely on the religious principles of human relationships that come from the Bible (Christianity), Quran (Islam), Torah (Judaism), etc.

I have no idea how to make sense of your first paragraph.

Your second paragraph sounds like you think some government agency should force people to befriend or partner with autistic people until the autistic individual is mostly content but seems to disregard the contentedness, or happiness, of the other person involved. This is a glaring flaw. If someone doesn't want to be friends with someone on the spectrum, or be their partner, then they shouldn't feel any obligation to.

Literally as someone on the spectrum there's no f*****g way I'd feel content having a partner that was forced/persuaded/"encouraged," to be my partner. I'd rather be single than feel like I was someone's forced relationship because some government agency made them stick with me. I'd rather Know I was unattractive to others and unfit for a relationship with any human I was ever attracted to that way than feel like someone was forced to be with me - that'd make me feel even more unattractive as now my unattractiveness would be negatively impacting someone else' entire life. This is a MASSIVE flaw in such a system.

People on the spectrum have the option of putting themselves out there on niche dating apps intended for people on the spectrum. Or to disclose their diagnosis on a more mainstream dating site/app. But creating some sort of forced system and making autistic people feel like someone is being Made to "love," them would make me feel anything but Actually loved, defeating the entire purpose as originally intended, IMO.

Too many flaws. Nothing beats nature.

I know nothing about these things, so I want to ask you: In your understanding, where is the necessity of marriage? I know this is a big question, but I really want to know.
I'm not saying I support polygamy or matriarchy, any more than my opposition to Christianity means I support Buddhism.

Let's not forget that there are other people who are lonely but are not necessarily autistic. The MAROF system isn't created for the purpose of that. It is meant to offer FREE LOVE. It is meant to offer an equal opportunity REGARDLESS of gender, sexuality, ethnicity, religion, culture, and race. Mixed relationships are possible. People feel less miserable. This isn't about clinging to the "old marriage relationships". This is about implementing a system that will unite humans and tell them that there is no need to hate other people just because they didn't get the chance.

There are a lot of lonely people in the world and the loneliness will only grow. Already, 33% of the world is lonely (Steven Zauderer, July 2023 -> https://www.crossrivertherapy.com/research/loneliness-statistics). Desperate times call for desperate measures. We can't let the loneliness grow this big!

Marriages are not necessary! They are optional and it should be the matter of the individuals with limited support from MAROF. I don't want people to be forcibly married. Marriages are formed as a result of years of honorable and great relationships and it is the individuals who should decide on the marriage part while MAROF is only there to give them counseling regarding any problems that may occur in marriages.

This is not the answer I was looking for, what I meant was: what guarantee do those who register with the state department want?

Regarding the issue of companionship for autistic people, I think the most fundamental issue is that they are unable to express love in a normal way. The secondary issues are a series of issues brought about by capitalism such as trendy taste, body shape, wealth, etc.

As I've already answered belijojo about this, the purpose of MAROF is not to pair people with autistic people. MAROF will NEVER select only people who are autistic and pair them with a person who doesn't want to be in a relationship with them. MAROF has a very cautionary approach to when it comes to your demands. You want someone, you have to provide an accurate and honest description of the person you wish to spend time with and MAROF will do their best to find and pick one.

Regardless of gender, sexuality, religion, race, and ethnicity, you are given an opportunity and YOU must use your speech to tell MAROF what kind of a person best fits for you and it will be done accordingly. After all, the first phase of implementing MAROF is obtaining information from the population so that you don't end up in a blind relationship.

They are guaranteed free love. By registering themselves in the MAROF system, the autistic people won't face the consequences of the capitalist way of having love that is by the power of wealth and unrealistic body shapes which the bourgeois use in their agenda to profit off, especially during Valentine's Day. The bourgeois simply use these for their own gains but the people who are caught within this are often left miserable and feel insecure because of the fearmongering in the name of PROFIT.

Also, the mental wellbeing of autistic people is up to the appropriate institutions and that should be a matter for the hospitals and licensed therapists who have expertise when it comes to autism spectrum disorder. MAROF is not a hospital. MAROF focuses on family and relationships.