Trump's legacy: The future of the Republican Party

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11 Jul 2026, 6:26 pm

@Mona Pereth

My guess is that they're trying to resurrect the cultural and societal norms of the 1950s--or at least the 50s as portrayed on TV.

In some ways, they've succeeded. Here are some examples:

1. Overturn of Roe v. Wade

2. Return of the "everyone I don't like is a communist" mindset.

3. Attempts to put LGBTQ+ people back in the closet. Ironically, even in the 50s, it was an open secret that some celebs were gay (Liberace, Rock Hudson, etc)

4. Attempts, some successful, to mandate Bible teachings in public schools.

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12 Jul 2026, 6:06 am

I think Trump's legacy will be that he pushed "the America first" attitude a step to far, ruined the relationship with Europe, weakened America internationally and made it lose it's soft power.

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12 Jul 2026, 7:30 am

BillyTree wrote:

I think Trump's legacy will be that he pushed "the America first" attitude a step to far, ruined the relationship with Europe, weakened America internationally and made it lose it's soft power.

Not to mention the fact that he's divided his own country with hostilities on levels not seen since the 1960's and has made racism, sexism, and homophobia popular again.

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12 Jul 2026, 7:32 am

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I wouldn't even call it a reset to the 1950's. More like the 1850's when slavery was still OK and women had even less rights than they did in the 1950's.

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12 Jul 2026, 6:51 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:

To be fair, LGBTQ+ people were around for a long time, even if they didn’t use the same semantics we know today. It was not the most accepting (ironically ebbed and flowed a little through history, why do so many people focus only on the 50s), but it was not an absolute death sentence either because people still visited underground gay areas.

R v. W should remained overturned and the abortion decision should be returned to the states, or the individuals.

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12 Jul 2026, 7:24 pm

Its gonna be a hard recovery from a population in the country that conciously allowed a Casino owner/ Known felon and abuser of women to be put into the highest office in the land . What kind of populace votes someone like that in.?
And then keep him in office even after the things he IS doing . Its Amazing . perhaps the idea is that the World economic forim meeting wants to see the US as a more Socialist country . As much as I detest that idea, it would be a better than the direction ,that he and Vance and the outwardly gay Peter Theil is driving the country into ?

No offence against alternate lifestyles,unless they wish to align themselves with any of the aforementioned people .
Including the flock safety people whom wish to make USA persons life similiar to living in a actively managed prison system . Catching one or 2 peeps for crimes, cause police do not want to do what they have always been paid to do anyway. Doesnt mean everyone wants to live in a private prison system. IMHO

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13 Jul 2026, 12:31 am

Mona Pereth wrote:

SailorsGuy12 wrote:

WillTedRose13 wrote:

What exactly are the conservatives trying to 'conserve' these days? America's long history of racism, genocide and land theft towards indiginous peoples, slavery of Africans, women having no right to vote, religious oppression of non-Christians, homosexuality being criminalized etc?

Regardless of what one thinks about good vs evil in politics it seems to me that the conservatives are the ones who get off on the idea of Trump's people stripping every other group in this country of their basic human rights and needs that they fought long and hard for and have only been able to enjoy in about half of the last century.

It doesnt matter if they are true Nazis or Fascists or whatever. They're rotten a**holes with a deep burning desire to hurt and oppress people and should have been stopped before they were allowed to grow out of hand this badly.

Spoken like original sin ideology-"country x has historical sins therefore it is irreparably evil" Every country and historical empire had past sins, yet this discussion is today directed exclusively toward the west.

That the West is "irreparably evil" is NOT WillTedRose13's point here. WillTedRose13 himself has, in other posts (e.g. in this thread), spoken out against the attitude that the West is irreparably evil.

His question here is about what specific kinds of things most conservatives are trying to "conserve." Are most conservatives trying to "conserve" -- or bring back -- at least some of the specific evils WillTedRose13 spoke of?

as a conservative the number one thing I am trying to conserve is my freedom to attend a Church of Christ I am not a Trump supporter.

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13 Jul 2026, 1:07 am

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as a conservative the number one thing I am trying to conserve is my freedom to attend a Church of Christ

Really? Why is that even an issue? Is anyone, here in the U.S.A. at least, trying to take away your freedom to attend whatever church you want?

Luckily we have the First Amendment.

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13 Jul 2026, 1:13 am

Mona Pereth wrote:

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:

as a conservative the number one thing I am trying to conserve is my freedom to attend a Church of Christ

Really? Why is that even an issue? Is anyone, here in the U.S.A. at least, trying to take away your freedom to attend whatever church you want?

Luckily we have the First Amendment.

Taxing churches would take away the freedom to attend any Church of Christ I want because most would shut down. A lot of people in this country would take issue with us Church of Christ people....very few would seek to ban us but there are prolly more than a few who would like to make some of our practices illegal. I wont get into which ones.

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13 Jul 2026, 2:37 am

As long as there is legally such a thing as a "non-profit organization," most churches should be able to fit into that category, even if churches per se were not guaranteed tax-exemption.

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13 Jul 2026, 2:41 am

Mona Pereth wrote:

As long as there is legally such a thing as a "non-profit organization," most churches should be able to fit into that category, even if churches per se were not guaranteed tax-exemption.

Its not that....Most Churches of Christ would be too poor to stay open if churches were taxed.We would have to sell the vast majority of our real estate and go back to meeting in homes.

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14 Jul 2026, 10:39 pm

as a conservative some of the things I am trying to conserve are the 2A and capitalism.

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14 Jul 2026, 11:07 pm

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:

as a conservative some of the things I am trying to conserve are the 2A and capitalism.

I'm actually fine with the idea of trying to conserve one's money and property (because I'm anti-Marxist).

That said I don't support the conserving of outdated bigoted ideas about oppressing certain groups of people.

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15 Jul 2026, 12:15 am

the GOP has gone full-on fascist. that is the lasting legacy of the fake fatsby.

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15 Jul 2026, 12:22 am

auntblabby wrote:

the GOP has gone full-on fascist. that is the lasting legacy of the fake fatsby.

Whatever they really are they're not good for the stability of this country or the rest of the world. They've become a dangerous threat and Lincoln would be turning in his grave if he could see what became of the Grand Old Party.

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15 Jul 2026, 12:30 am

the Godwin of "Godwin's Law" has made an exception for this maga crowd.

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