Look at these photos of Iran

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God, sick bastards. *looks at contradictory evidence*

Wtf. Even if it's not real... Anyhow, any nation which condones that, in this day and age, deserves a change of regime.

My input on the photos... when I think about it, I'm not really surprised to see some nice buildings like that, but I remember watching a documentary of some photographers in China, and the reason China looks so nice at times is just because the photographers are only allowed to take pictures of particular areas. I'm not saying that's what the government is doing, but it's no secret that unemployment is a leading economic concern there (however, the numbers are very hard to get), so I don't really think you could project these photos on the whole of the nation. My sister said something about Hollywood when she went there; there's really only one part of the city that looks nice, and the rest really looks worn down, though most people see it as being really beautiful because of media portrayal and hype.

I have to correct you here. The green scarf is not indicative of Hamas or Hizbullah (and any other militant group or country). The color green signifies Islam. When you see a religious leader with a green head scarf, that means he is a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad. Tradition says it was his favorite color, so you see muslims wearing such a color.




Iran = Aryan. Arabs = Semites.

^^ I googled that pic searching iran response danish cartoons. The site labelled it as iran.

When you see a religious leader wearing a generic green scarf or turban, it means Islam in general. When you see street protestors wearing green Hamas scarves, it can be taken to mean Hamas. They really do look different.



Will try to post the distinctive Hamas flag which is visible in the photo - will put a link as well if the server that hosts the image won't let it be served to third party pages.

http://www.tridentmilitary.com/new-phot ... masflg.jpg

That's plausible.

Doesn't look that much different than Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, or a lot of other countries with lots of oil money. Still doesn't seem to change a thing about their religious attitudes though.

Not so distinctive to the Saudi flag.

You won't find Saudis wearing the flag on their head in street demonstrations.

Oh I've just found this thread.

First of all that video with the kid is definitely not from Iran, sh*t like that is not allowed here.
I really don't know about that pic, they do look like Arabs but that soldier's uniform could very well be from Iran.

Another thing is Iranian culture is worlds different from those of its neighboring countries.

And Persians are descendents from Aryans as Persians were one of the major Aryan tribes that migrated to Iran 3000 years ago.

The Arab minority is like I think less than 3 percent and they all nearly live in the south in their own villages.

Highest point of Iran is Mount Damavand. You can look it up if you're still interested.

And most religious minorities (mostly Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians) actually live better lives than Muslims (minus the people who are part of the government or sepah) as they have access to more things than do the rest of us. That is as long as they stay away from the government which is true for most of us living here.

And every country has its wacko people, our bad luck is ours are ruling the country and using religion just as a tool to suppress people, as most of our people are nowhere as religious as the other Muslim countries but most have to keep up the face to survive here, living in a country ruled by fascists and all.

Iran-as has everyone who's ever visited her, says- has a society of contradictions. The world inside and world outside in Iran is unbelievably different.

And there would be no problem for a none-Muslim visiting at least from the people, as they love foreigners. But I'd recommend coming with a tour program or something and not alone in a country you've never been to, unless you know somebody here. And stay away from places near the borders with Pakistan or Iraq.

Sorry I didn't find this sooner. I didn't know if you're still interested but I wrote these anyway.

Yes, that's not Iran. More likely the Pathan tribal areas of Pakistan. Btw, I'm a Pathan myself, of the Lodi clan, although my family has lived in India for over 650 years.

Saudi Arabia does cut the arms of thieves, but not if they stole due to starvation. In that case, they are forgiven, and in most cases, the monarchy arranges employment.

I'd like to mention that many Pathans are sick. According to my father, it's a hobby with Pathans in Afghanistan and Pakistan to have a netted bag full of birds, and prick their eyes with a pin. This is my own people I'm talking about.

As for the laws such as beheading of murderers/rapists, cutting hands of theives, etc, these fall under the category of Sharia - oral laws. Sharia is Islamic in nature, in the sense that it does not go against the Quran. However, even interest goes against the Quran, hence, true Islamic law does not exist. Imprisonment, as in secular democracies, is permissible by Islam. These laws just happen to be associated with Sharia. But, Sharia is evolving - the U.A.E. banned the death penalty. Slashing is limited to 5 per day. Amputation is no longer a punishment. Also, as a result, crime has increased 10 fold in the U.A.E. Hence, most Muslims consider these "barbaric" forms of punishment as effective. As far as I'm concerned, barbaric crimes deserve barbaric punishments. However, stealing bread due to hunger is not a crime, it's a plea for help. Muslims, enforcing these crimes, forget that Charity is one of the five pillars of Islam. I feel so ashamed when I see my "brothers" doing these unforgivable acts. Very ashamed.

Why are people saying that is not Iran? Of course it's Iran, even though the country has changed considerably since Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stepped in and wiped out the educated, middle class that didn't agree with him.

Iran, folks, is not a third-world country. It is an oil rich country that does business all over the world. Most of the middle eastern countries look like these pictures, despite the povery that befalls segments of its society. They are oil rich and real estate rich because they invest in every terrority on the globe that they can. And, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates and Dubai are just off the map! Totally off the map in terms of excess wealth. Kuwait and Dubai have the highest standard of living in the universe.

Remember, these countries have oil. Only a few of them are so war torn that they can't see the forest for the trees and rise up out of poverty to use their resource to their advantage.

Not entirely. Every country has its own internal problems, and the US has been a much bigger source of misery in other countries than Iran has. We basically created the current situation in Iran by supporting the Shah and by invading Iraq. It's no wonder Iran wants nuclear weapons since it's pretty fair guarantee it will dissuade the US from invading your country. North Korea is a much bigger regional problem than Iraq ever was, except North Korea had a nuclear weapon and Iraq didn't. Guess which country we negotiated with and which one we attacked.

The Saudi flag has a sword in it.

Lies ! lies......lies!

You could lie better than that , Iranian 'liberty'_girl!

"religious minorities (mostly Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians) actually live better lives than Muslims"

Yeah....riiiight; religious minorities aren't even allowed to swim in the same public pools with the muslims (because they think that the non-muslims are 'unclean') . Religious minorities in iran can't even exceed the rank of soldier in the Iranian army. Minorities 's women are forced to wear the veil in the street...etc
Minorities in Iran have only ....2 seats for Armenians and one for each other minority: Assyrians, Jews and Zoroastrians?? 5 of a total 270????

and what's worse :Members of the Bahai', Iran's largest non-Islamic religious minority, are not recognized and do not have seats in the parliament. Bahais are considered heretics and they are persecuted and killed just because Bahai is not a religion mentioned in the Qur'an as the 'people of the book'. .

Damn , there's even no democracy in Iran ....the President is just a puppet to the "Wali el Faqih" , the supreme religious leader. Not all the reformist are allowed to candidate themselves for the elections because there's a council of f***heads Mullahs who decide who are worthy and who not to be candidates. Ayatollah Ali Khamenehei showed the road to the massive rejection of reformist candidates when he labeled them as “puppets”, “mercenaries”, “agents of the enemy”.

Huzbellah in my country are following the same path , since they follow the Faqih's ideology (The Shiite State) , I am from a muslim Shia family myself and I was in Iran once too .... and I am very familiar with the followers of the Faqih ideology (Hizbullah) and very familiar with their hatred , their intolerance , their violence and their bloody dreams. They always wanted to apply the Sharia regime in lebanon and look at Iran as an ideal example. Hezbollah supporters have always celebrated in streets each time when a patriot anti-syrian Lebanese journalist/politician is assassinated in a car bombing or shooting.

And why is that? Because of Iran ,the Iran's interference and revolutionary guards influence in Lebanon since 1982 , the Iranian interference in Lebanon is not just limited on political level but also on social/religious level.
Iran has exploited a righteous cause in Lebanon which is the resistance against the Israeli occupation. So by using money and by exploiting this cause, Iranians and Hezbullah have dominated all the schools/mosques in the Shia regions so they can brainwash the Shia youth here , training Shia youngsters in their camps to fight...turning them to fanatic religious terrorists rather than freedom fighters. This strategy is called 'social conversion' , the ancient roman empire used the same way in Gaul where they have turned many Gaul kids to little romans. Sadly,Iran succeeded well with this strategy and it using the same strategy in the other Arab countries that have some Shia populations such as Bahrien, Kuweit and Yaman.
The non-hezbollah Lebanese Shia are the most harassed by the Hezbollah , Hezbollah clerics even announced a 'fatwa' against every Lebanese Shia that doesn't cooperate with their political path.

Hezbollah adopts the same way of thinking of the Iranian revolutionary guard : "you are either with me or you are my enemy."

Damn , they even have the same flag:

The flag of Hizbullah:




The flag of IRanian Revolutionary Guard:




Very similar , no?


In short, the lebanese Shiite community is under full dominion (socially,politically and religiously) of Iran for more than 10 years, directly and indirectly.



Iran (and Syria) is all behind the unrest in Lebanon now and I am sure that they are behind the assassination of the free people here.

Liberty_girl , hear me well ....from a Lebanese and Shia on ID : Death to your Wali el Faqih . I am waiting for the day when your regime falls ,whether by American invasion or by a civil war .... I care not ,but I am hoping to see your regime and your Wali el Faqih rot one day before I die.

When you don't know and you don't know that you don't know that is the darkest form of ignorance.
Stop accusing people of things you're ignorant of and have just heard stuff about.

And stop saying Iran and Iranians, those bastards are only Iranian in name, they don't have a darn thing to do with the people of Iran, you have no right to judge 90 percent of our people with what a minority in that 10 percent do.

I am not a Muslim as I have stated many time before. You don't know a darn thing about me, my beliefs and the sort of life I have to live, so you have no right to judge me by your ignorance.
I have several friends (not close) that are Christian or Shia and a semi close Zoroastrian friend. And we are the ones who live here, so stop telling me what lives we live when we're the ones living them please.

First of all that pool thing is total bull.
They together have 5 seats on the parliament which is a lot considering all together they don't make 1 percent of the population after all the migrations thanks to aipac during these 30 years.

Yes they do have to wear a veil, as everyone else does, but they have access to alcoholic drinks, they can throw parties without getting in trouble, they have their own public places in which they don’t have to wear hejab where no Muslim is allowed,... aipac would give them a very large amount of money if they would leave Iran.... and regular people, those 90 percent that are not related to people in sepah (the revolutionary guard) or the government can never get anywhere either. And I did say which minorities don't get mistreated or abused didn't I? cause I know the Baha’is do(not prosecuted and killed these days though), but as I said they could easily leave the country should they want to and will be given housing and jobs and money while the rest of us are stuck here getting poorer and poorer everyday as the money that should be ours is spend to pay for the wars in Lebanon and Palestine. None and I mean none of the people I know believe in vali faqih.
And I know the s**t our government is doing in Lebanon, they spend the oil money not for our country but on Hezbollah and Hamas, best things here are sent to them and the crap is left for our people.

now don't get me wrong I do sympathize with you and what my government is doing to your country, people in Gaza and probably Iraq, but I just want you to know that they treat us worse than any of you, if you knew the stuff that's been going on here you wouldn't be telling me this stuff, we are our government's number one enemy, so what they do to you, they do ten folds of it us. So no one wants them gone as bad as we do. But we can't do it alone, we need help but all everyone else cares about is money and power and to hell with the Iranian people, I know our government would torture and kill the last one of us if it had to stay in power. When you have oil who cares about the people?
I invite you to come to Iran once and you will see with your own eyes how things are very different from the perception the world has about the society here.