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Are you saying that life doesn't begin at conception? If so, then how many days after conception does life begin?

NEITHER! Anyone who supports the murder of innocent people isn't fit for office.

I don't think murdering life inside the womb is any different than murdering life outside the womb. Some babies are born prematurely at 24 weeks. Some babies are aborted at 24 weeks. Please tell me the difference between killing a 24 week old person inside the womb versus killing a person the day they are born prematurely at 24 weeks.

You're confused on the definition of life. Under your definition of it, we kill life every day, prevent it from happening.

Life to me, is being alive, in the greatest sense of the word. Thinking, feeling, knowing. That's what life is about, after all. Life isn't some biological potential, AGAIN, I THINK, THEREFORE, I AM. Put whatever spin you want on abortion, a clump of flesh is not a life until it has lived.

And abortion is more than fair to that fact. Put whatever guilt trip and horrible terminology you want on it, it doesn't make you right.

I'm open-minded and willing to listen to other rational beliefs. We're not talking about life in general. We are talking about HUMAN life. If abortion isn't murder because the fetus isn't a person, then please tell me when the fetus becomes a person. How many days or weeks after conception until it becomes a person?

Spin, spin, salabim! Take a moment, if you will, to reflect on what makes a human life different from all the other "murder" taking place elsewhere. For example, animals. Or hell, plants.

One of these things is not like the other, but why?

Also, I'm not a Doctor, and this simply doesn't mean enough to me to google the current guidelines on abortion. Let's just say, it's already been scientifically resolved as to when a fetus becomes a "person," and abortion takes heed to this research.

Unless, of course, you have some godly opinion that would disprove all of this?

I'll say it. Life begins before conception; both the egg and sperm must be alive. In the normal course of events, an overwhelming majority of egg and sperm do not make it. While some religious people believe that every sperm is sacred, I don't cry at the daily death of billions of sperm cells.

Are you saying that killing a human isn't any different than killing plants?



I don't have a godly opinion as this isn't based on religion. Scientists have studied it and concluded that life begins at conception. I agree with science and expect those who oppose science to offer a good explanation of why I should reject science.

"A United States Senate Judiciary Subcommittee invited experts to testify on the question of when life begins...A prominent physician points out that at these Senate hearings, "Pro-abortionists, though invited to do so, failed to produce even a single expert witness who would specifically testify that life begins at any point other than conception or implantation. Only one witness said no one can tell when life begins."

Professor Hymie Gordon, Mayo Clinic: "By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception."

Professor Micheline Matthews-Roth, Harvard University Medical School: "It is incorrect to say that biological data cannot be decisive.... It is scientifically correct to say that an individual human life begins at conception.... Our laws, one function of which is to help preserve the lives of our people, should be based on accurate scientific data."

Dr. Watson A. Bowes, University of Colorado Medical School: "The beginning of a single human life is from a biological point of view a simple and straightforward matter—the beginning is conception. This straightforward biological fact should not be distorted to serve sociological, political, or economic goals."

I'm not an expert, so I will agree with science on this matter and believe that life begins at conception.

Quotes from http://www.epm.org/articles/life_conception.html

Blah, blah, rhetoric. You're still missing the point as to what makes a human being special.

Do you really believe that human life isn't any different than animals, insects, and plants?

((I'm not trying to be rude, just posing a question for clarity))

How is life as you define it medically/scientifically correct? Does this mean someone in a coma is not alive because they cannot enjoy life while comatose?

If life begins at birth, does this mean a baby one day before it's due not alive, making it, using your logic, perfectly fine to abort it?

The question that needs to be answered is "when does life begin?" Most doctors agree that life begins when brain activity begins, which is very early on, within the first two months. Therefore, getting an abortion after the brain is active in the fetus, it is ending a human life.

Sick of saying it now..."I think, therefore, I am." Why is this so hard to grasp?

"Argument of authority" fallacy.

Just because the guy who said it was a genius, doesn't mean it's right, nor can you use it as scientific evidence that a baby in the womb is not alive.

I don't understand these kind of sayings very well. "I think, therefore, I am." I don't know what that means. I understand precise, literal statements the best.

You'd think this would be mutually understood on an aspie forum XDDD

Pause for a second, I must reply to you both...after I get a drink.

Life begins before conception; an ovum and a spermatozoa are both alive. You're correct, abortion absolutely ends a biological life. But so does swatting a gnat...or taking antibiotics (bacteria are alive, too, you know). A biological death does not necessarily equate the murder of a sentient creatures.

Either way, it's a gray issue, but I cannot take the pro-life argument seriously in the early stages of pregnancy, and it's especially laughable before neuronal development.